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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 TheDwf wrote: Bio/Hellbats/Thors works fine with the lead he had, but I don't think he would use it against straight lings/banes/mutas in an even game. I've seen Forgg use the same comp, but i figured it was his style since he uses hellbats in TvP as well, but maybe it's something new catching on. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:03 Big J wrote: Scout roaches, build marauders and cut mines. proceed to do whatever you want to with a 40supply and 2-3upgrade lead. Was it that simple ? Felt weird for fast techlab. Hellbat vs roach was kind of surprising for me too. Why not more marauders ? Was it because of mutas ? Because mutas would mean ling/bling ? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:04 Heartland wrote: When I said parade push I meant WMMMM. I think it can't be separated from the strategy as the WMs allow you to hold large amounts of terrain. I'm no Terran expert which is why I ask questions all the time, but I am pretty sure that TvZ seems like it has a lot of the same parade pushes after the WM nerf as before it. Yes, the widow mine pushes are still really common, only difference is they add a thor or 2 now. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:03 DarkLordOlli wrote: It's nice to see some korean terran play. I used to hate Korean terrans during the 1/1/1 - 2rax era but the mechanically extremely challenging way they play these days is really impressive to watch In other words I LOVE KOREAN TERRANS I'll drink to that. Korean terrans fighting! | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:04 Heartland wrote: When I said parade push I meant WMMMM. I think it can't be separated from the strategy as the WMs allow you to hold large amounts of terrain. I'm no Terran expert which is why I ask questions all the time, but I am pretty sure that TvZ seems like it has a lot of the same parade pushes after the WM nerf as before it. 4M and parade push are different things. Parade pushs are nearly extinct, basically the rally until death only occurs when Terran has secured a large advantage before for some reason. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:05 sashkata wrote: I've seen Forgg use the same comp, but i figured it was his style since he uses hellbats in TvP as well, but maybe it's something new catching on. Forgg has some bad TvZ though. I've seen Gumiho and Supernova also use it last year in a few games, but that was it. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24602 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:06 TheDwf wrote: 4M and parade push are different things. Parade pushs are nearly extinct, basically the rally until death only occurs when Terran has secured a large advantage before for some reason. Alright, very well. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 TheDwf wrote: Bio/Hellbats/Thors works fine with the lead he had, but I don't think he would use it against straight lings/banes/mutas in an even game. I'm not sure, Flash specifically used a lot of hellbat marauder in the past, I think he just likes those units. | ||
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24602 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
No thanks to sOs, although TY is no slacker | ||
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arcane1129
United States271 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8739 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:06 stuchiu wrote: Forgg has some bad TvZ though. I've seen Gumiho and Supernova also use it last year in a few games, but that was it. iirc, ForGG stated that his TvZ has gotten a lot better. | ||
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
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juvenal
2448 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:03 ChoiSulli wrote: On one hand you have how an amateur observed that game on the other a progamer. not a surprising contrast  | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:05 FFW_Rude wrote: Was it that simple ? Felt weird for fast techlab. Hellbat vs roach was kind of surprising for me too. Why not more marauders ? He started the hellbats after he saw Savage switching to mutalisks, zerglings and banelings. Maybe he really plays hellbats against that kind of play of zerg, but I wouldn't interprete too much into it. It may just be Flash thinking that it is easier to end a game with hellbat/MMM instead of MMMM when you have a huge lead. Or maybe he was thinking that Savage could switch back into roaches, in which case hellbats are better than mines as well. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
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Ctesias
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