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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:01 Heartland wrote: I thought we still saw a ton of parade pushes? I was talking more about composition, not tactics. Yes we saw a lot off parade pushes, but with no WM and definitely no tanks. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:00 Destructicon wrote: Interesting composition by Flash there. Going pure bio with medivacs was logical given that Savage went full roach, but him switching into bio + hellbats and Thors was really retro HoTS. He even researched Infernal Preigniter, so it seems clear he didn't want to make WM. Funny that Blizzard wanted to encourage both WM and ST to be used in TvZ but with the WM nerf they just phased out both units. Bio/Hellbats/Thors works fine with the lead he had, but I don't think he would use it against straight lings/banes/mutas in an even game. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:00 Destructicon wrote: Funny that Blizzard wanted to encourage both WM and ST to be used in TvZ but with the WM nerf they just phased out both units. Most people are still going widow mines though. I kinda like this option though, not sure how good it is if you don't have a huge lead like he did, but with mass mass mutas being so incredibly strong vs bio, maybe the +2 thors would be a lot better, than having mines with a thor or so with the armour upgrades. | ||
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Ctesias
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Levistus
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CrayonPopChoa
Canada761 Posts
On January 05 2014 19:54 Dingodile wrote: incedribly bad game by both. not even code a lvl. On January 05 2014 19:58 MajOr wrote: i break this down for all you ppl saying they both bad cuz u all clearly crazy on the head. i dont know how but flash built 3techlabs from his initial 5barracks which isnt normal at all even vs mass roach normal is 1techlab 4 reactors therefore he had so many marauder my time roaches came that did nothing at all normally he woulda been able to lift that 3rd cc kill the scvs if it was the standrd 1techlab 4barrack and transition into muta ling bane with a good lead but im amazed he actually managed to cause to much trouble from the position he was in. On one hand you have how an amateur observed that game on the other a progamer. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:01 FFW_Rude wrote: With your level of play (meaning you're better than all of us combined so i feel you may understand this) how would you explain FlaSh's build. It was really weird i felt. What was weird? | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:00 Destructicon wrote: Interesting composition by Flash there. Going pure bio with medivacs was logical given that Savage went full roach, but him switching into bio + hellbats and Thors was really retro HoTS. He even researched Infernal Preigniter, so it seems clear he didn't want to make WM. Funny that Blizzard wanted to encourage both WM and ST to be used in TvZ but with the WM nerf they just phased out both units. By recent Blizzard logic, if they want to encourage an unit being made, they need to buff movement speed. So lets see if we see 3.0 movement speed tanks :D | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 05 2014 19:58 MajOr wrote: i break this down for all you ppl saying they both bad cuz u all clearly crazy on the head. i dont know how but flash built 3techlabs from his initial 5barracks which isnt normal at all even vs mass roach normal is 1techlab 4 reactors therefore he had so many marauder my time roaches came that did nothing at all normally he woulda been able to lift that 3rd cc kill the scvs if it was the standrd 1techlab 4barrack and transition into muta ling bane with a good lead but im amazed he actually managed to cause to much trouble from the position he was in. Juan knows :D | ||
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On January 05 2014 19:57 shockaslim wrote: He didn't even make a single widow mine..... I liked Flash's composition better it was way more solid . Marine/Medivac/Mine with the mine nerfed you have to get lucky with mine hits for it to be more effective . Not that it mattered in this game . | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:01 FFW_Rude wrote: With your level of play how would you explain FlaSh's build. It was really weird i felt. Scout roaches, build marauders and cut mines. proceed to do whatever you want to with a 40supply and 2-3upgrade lead. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 Levistus wrote: does the 10k viewers on twitch include koreans? if not, what site does koreans watch? how many koreans are watching right now? just curious thanks. They watch it on TV. ~_~ | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 TheDwf wrote: Bio/Hellbats/Thors works fine with the lead he had, but I don't think he would use it against straight lings/banes/mutas in an even game. Fair point, we'll have to wait and see if hellbat thor becomes a thing to replace WM. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 Levistus wrote: does the 10k viewers on twitch include koreans? if not, what site does koreans watch? how many koreans are watching right now? just curious thanks. There's a Korean stream (and a Youtube stream), but most Koreans watch it on SpoTV I think | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:03 Qwerty85 wrote: By recent Blizzard logic, if they want to encourage an unit being made, they need to buff movement speed. So lets see if we see 3.0 movement speed tanks :D The solution is obviously to have them be fast enough that you never siege them, but instead kite Zealots and Roaches with them. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 Destructicon wrote: I was talking more about composition, not tactics. Yes we saw a lot off parade pushes, but with no WM and definitely no tanks. When I said parade push I meant WMMMM. I think it can't be separated from the strategy as the WMs allow you to hold large amounts of terrain. I'm no Terran expert which is why I ask questions all the time, but I am pretty sure that TvZ seems like it has a lot of the same parade pushes after the WM nerf as before it. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:01 FFW_Rude wrote: With your level of play (meaning you're better than all of us combined so i feel you may understand this) how would you explain FlaSh's build. It was really weird i felt. Flash is known to go Hellbat Marauder, and it felt like he was basically going into that (with enough marines to stop mutas of course) | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 05 2014 20:02 Levistus wrote: does the 10k viewers on twitch include koreans? if not, what site does koreans watch? how many koreans are watching right now? just curious thanks. Koreans watch it on SpotTV. They broadcast to more than 8 million households, yes TV, no internet stream. | ||
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