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He should sign his pants and raffle them or something, lolz.
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Golden the hero of esports? Seriously Golden is doing a lot lately. Hope many people tune in so this amazing content can keep happening!! Also this is going to be great, golden's english is pretty good, and Hyun had some great english at HSC. Plus the games look amazing.
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This brings tears to my eyes, so nice! Nothing in the world can stop me from watching this.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do.
Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end.
Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves.
"Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook.
Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture.
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On January 02 2014 00:05 z0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do. Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end. Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves. "Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook. Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture.
It's a get out of jail free card for Quantic. If we just give Hyun money, then Quantic's actions will be forgotten until the next time a scam comes up. The correct course of action is pursuing Simon/Quantic.
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On January 02 2014 00:06 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:05 z0rz wrote:On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do. Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end. Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves. "Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook. Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture. It's a get out of jail free card for Quantic. If we just give Hyun money, then Quantic's actions will be forgotten until the next time a scam comes up. The correct course of action is pursuing Simon/Quantic.
Because you can't do both?
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I will watch, no doubts!!
Would be even cooler if it could be a tricast with Golden, HyuN and CranK(loved him on the APM league).
Cant wait!
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 02 2014 00:07 z0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:06 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 02 2014 00:05 z0rz wrote:On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do. Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end. Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves. "Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook. Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture. It's a get out of jail free card for Quantic. If we just give Hyun money, then Quantic's actions will be forgotten until the next time a scam comes up. The correct course of action is pursuing Simon/Quantic. Because you can't do both?
Nope, quantic are out scott free unless hyun is in the gutter regretting pro gaming, because that's how shit works
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GL Hyun we show you how wonderful is sc2 community!!
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Really nice projet i'll watch 
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On January 02 2014 00:07 z0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:06 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 02 2014 00:05 z0rz wrote:On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do. Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end. Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves. "Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook. Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture. It's a get out of jail free card for Quantic. If we just give Hyun money, then Quantic's actions will be forgotten until the next time a scam comes up. The correct course of action is pursuing Simon/Quantic. Because you can't do both?
No one here is talking about doing both. They just want Hyun to get some money. After that, all will be forgiven with Quantic. Then another Quantic scam will come up. It's just stupid.
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Will definitely support this ! Thank you Golden, this is golden idea! Awesome players too, looking forward to matches!
But Simon still needs to pay in more ways than one!
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On January 02 2014 00:09 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:07 z0rz wrote:On January 02 2014 00:06 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 02 2014 00:05 z0rz wrote:On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do. Do you guys even know what this is about? HyuN is considering retiring after this fiasco. This isn't about the money; it's about reaching out to someone who poured his heart and soul into something and got screwed over for it in the end. Doing this in no way perpetuates the corrupt system. If the funds were somehow going back to Quantic or another corrupt team/owner, you'd have a point. This is just a sign of gratitude/appreciation for a beloved progamer, and by sharing this story and making it a big deal, we are effectively spreading the word and hopefully informing aspiring progamers on the potential pitfalls of their career path and ways they can protect themselves. "Professional athletes," as you refer to, have player unions and lawyers/managers to protect them. You can say the progamers are at fault for being naive and putting themselves in a position where they can be taken advantage of, but by saying that you're letting the shady organizations off the hook. Until a legit union is established, this is the best we can really do: support the players that we love and spread the word to prevent someone like Simon from continuing to exist in the industry and to hopefully inform other players of the possibilities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this gesture. It's a get out of jail free card for Quantic. If we just give Hyun money, then Quantic's actions will be forgotten until the next time a scam comes up. The correct course of action is pursuing Simon/Quantic. Because you can't do both? Nope, quantic are out scott free unless hyun is in the gutter regretting pro gaming, because that's how shit works
Right, Simon fled and very likely will get away with it. How does that make it wrong to help out the guy that got screwed over? I seriously don't follow this logic. If he DIDN'T flee, you can be damn sure that the community would have done everything they could to knock him down a peg.
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On January 01 2014 23:53 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 23:29 fams wrote:By donating to HyuN, you are perpetuating a system that allows unscrupulous managers/organizations to take advantage of uneducated players. EXACTLY. The community needs to WAKE UP. Stop indulging in this feel-good crap. This isn't what we should be doing, even though it's "nice" to do.
actually you need to wake up. if you think this is a perfect world you are wrong. the system doesn't work so easy, hyun needs a ton of money the process will take probably years and a lot of nerves from hyun's side. it's also not very promising he needs evidence not just a screenshot of a skype conversation. and even then it's not 100% certain that the manager of quantic gets the right punishment for his actions.
i am afraid even though this sounds very pessimistic he is not going to get his money back from his "manager", even if he starts to take actions right now.
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