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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
November 17 2013 01:05 GMT
#3521
BBK > Symbol
Hero > Taeja
Jjakji > Leenock
Hyun > Happy

BBK > Hero
Jjakji > Happy

Jjakji > BBK
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 17 2013 01:05 GMT
#3522
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans.

Also known as inferior level.

True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out.

Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too.

Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally

Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance.


watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD
Zest fanboy.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#3523
On November 17 2013 10:01 kju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:58 StarStruck wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:56 mongmong wrote:
Hero you shoud;ve beaten BBK . Anyway GLGL


I'll give him the benefit of the doubt after losing to Dear and sHy. He has to find himself again when it comes to PvP. Don't worry about the guy's nerves lol, I'm glad Geoff even brought it up. Props to him. He's just always like that. It's more of a tic than anything else.

I wish more people would think this way and I hate it when casters bring up his nerves. It's just what he does before/after a game.


Well, to be honest I've brought it up more than a dozen times myself. I'm glad others are starting to point it out too.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#3524
symbol 3 > 2 babyknight
Taeja 3 > 1 Hero
Hyun 3 > 0 Happy
Leenock 3 > 2 Jjaki

Taeja 3 > 1 Symbol
Hyun 3 > 2 Leenock

Taeja 4 > 2 Hyun
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
November 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#3525
Again HSC brings me back to loving SC2.

Some day when I recall the Sc2 days, I will remember HSC the fondest.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#3526
On November 17 2013 10:05 hipo wrote:
Good bracket for Jjakji as long as Hyun take care of Happy.

jjakji can beat Happy if he meets him again. He now knows his style and won't make again the same kind of mistakes he did in the Yeonsu game, playing too passive and allowing Happy to reach his comfort zone.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 17 2013 01:07 GMT
#3527
bbk 3-1 symbol
hero 1-3 taeja
happy 3-2 hyun
leenock 1-3 JJakJi

bbk 0-3 Taeja
Happy 3-2 jjakji

taeja 3-0 happy

taeja defends his title ezpz
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 01:08:29
November 17 2013 01:08 GMT
#3528
On November 17 2013 10:04 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Symbol 3-0 Babyknight
Taeja 3-1 HerO
Happy 2-3 Hyun
Leenock 3-1 Jjakji

Taeja 3-2 Symbol
Leenock 3-2 Hyun

Leenock 4-3 Taeja

Leenock wins!


You underestimate Babyknight. He already beat Symbol and I think he counters the roach heavy style from Symbol well. 3-2 either way I think.


I watched and I think Symbol played pretty badly compared to his day 2 performance and the games were STILL close. Then again I don't watch many BabyK games so maybe he wasn't giving his best either. Still, I'm playing it safe and going with the Korean.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#3529
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans.

Also known as inferior level.

True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out.

Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too.

Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally

Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance.

Korean Terrans are superhumans, or perhaps androids.

Korean Zergs are mechanically a cut above, especially Jaedong/Soulkey/Life and those of that calibre. Peak Stephano and Scarlett weren't/aren't a million miles off though. Stephano is a case in point though, his on-the-fly decision making was truly sensational at his peak, as was his general gamesense and mental strength.

Protosses not so much. I think they have the capacity for sure, but there's just a bit less of a mechanical demand with that race.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#3530
On November 17 2013 10:05 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans.

Also known as inferior level.

True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out.

Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too.

Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally

Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance.


watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD

Watching Bogus' FPOV is brutal. After that, your replays seem like they're played by a 70 years old man crippled with arthritis.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#3531
im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#3532
so excite for jjakji vs leenock the rematch :O
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#3533
On November 17 2013 10:09 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:05 sAsImre wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans.

Also known as inferior level.

True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out.

Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too.

Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally

Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance.


watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD

Watching Bogus' FPOV is brutal. After that, your replays seem like they're played by a 70 years old man crippled with arthritis.


it's like. OK. Never scroll anything with the mouse. I'd lose to the AI if I try to mimic just the way he uses hotkeys/minimap for everything lol.
Zest fanboy.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#3534
On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote:
im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time.

Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 17 2013 01:11 GMT
#3535
On November 17 2013 10:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote:
im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time.

Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc


teach him to proxy 2g. It should lead to a decent ratio :D
Zest fanboy.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 17 2013 01:11 GMT
#3536
On November 17 2013 10:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:04 Musicus wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Symbol 3-0 Babyknight
Taeja 3-1 HerO
Happy 2-3 Hyun
Leenock 3-1 Jjakji

Taeja 3-2 Symbol
Leenock 3-2 Hyun

Leenock 4-3 Taeja

Leenock wins!


You underestimate Babyknight. He already beat Symbol and I think he counters the roach heavy style from Symbol well. 3-2 either way I think.


I watched and I think Symbol played pretty badly compared to his day 2 performance and the games were STILL close. Then again I don't watch many BabyK games so maybe he wasn't giving his best either. Still, I'm playing it safe and going with the Korean.


Yeah I think it's the safer bet, but not 3-0. Well we'll see tomorrow, I'm hyped!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
November 17 2013 01:12 GMT
#3537
On November 17 2013 10:06 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:05 hipo wrote:
Good bracket for Jjakji as long as Hyun take care of Happy.

jjakji can beat Happy if he meets him again. He now knows his style and won't make again the same kind of mistakes he did in the Yeonsu game, playing too passive and allowing Happy to reach his comfort zone.

I know, but I still think Hyun is an easier opponent for him :D
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 17 2013 01:12 GMT
#3538
On November 17 2013 10:11 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote:
im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time.

Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc


teach him to proxy 2g. It should lead to a decent ratio :D

If I'm going to have him grind mechanics, I see no reason to ever have him play Protoss as he won't benefit. he shall not make the same mistakes as his foolish father
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
November 17 2013 01:13 GMT
#3539
dimaga so awesome. how coiuld you not love him :O
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 17 2013 01:14 GMT
#3540
are they done for today?
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