Hero > Taeja
Jjakji > Leenock
Hyun > Happy
BBK > Hero
Jjakji > Happy
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Godwrath
Spain10108 Posts
Hero > Taeja Jjakji > Leenock Hyun > Happy BBK > Hero Jjakji > Happy Jjakji > BBK | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:01 kju wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 09:58 StarStruck wrote: On November 17 2013 09:56 mongmong wrote: Hero you shoud;ve beaten BBK ![]() I'll give him the benefit of the doubt after losing to Dear and sHy. He has to find himself again when it comes to PvP. Don't worry about the guy's nerves lol, I'm glad Geoff even brought it up. Props to him. He's just always like that. It's more of a tic than anything else. I wish more people would think this way and I hate it when casters bring up his nerves. It's just what he does before/after a game. Well, to be honest I've brought it up more than a dozen times myself. I'm glad others are starting to point it out too. | ||
Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Taeja 3 > 1 Hero Hyun 3 > 0 Happy Leenock 3 > 2 Jjaki Taeja 3 > 1 Symbol Hyun 3 > 2 Leenock Taeja 4 > 2 Hyun | ||
Chewie
Denmark708 Posts
Some day when I recall the Sc2 days, I will remember HSC the fondest. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:05 hipo wrote: Good bracket for Jjakji as long as Hyun take care of Happy. jjakji can beat Happy if he meets him again. He now knows his style and won't make again the same kind of mistakes he did in the Yeonsu game, playing too passive and allowing Happy to reach his comfort zone. | ||
Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
hero 1-3 taeja happy 3-2 hyun leenock 1-3 JJakJi bbk 0-3 Taeja Happy 3-2 jjakji taeja 3-0 happy taeja defends his title ezpz | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:04 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Symbol 3-0 Babyknight Taeja 3-1 HerO Happy 2-3 Hyun Leenock 3-1 Jjakji Taeja 3-2 Symbol Leenock 3-2 Hyun Leenock 4-3 Taeja Leenock wins! You underestimate Babyknight. He already beat Symbol and I think he counters the roach heavy style from Symbol well. 3-2 either way I think. I watched and I think Symbol played pretty badly compared to his day 2 performance and the games were STILL close. Then again I don't watch many BabyK games so maybe he wasn't giving his best either. Still, I'm playing it safe and going with the Korean. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23767 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. Korean Terrans are superhumans, or perhaps androids. Korean Zergs are mechanically a cut above, especially Jaedong/Soulkey/Life and those of that calibre. Peak Stephano and Scarlett weren't/aren't a million miles off though. Stephano is a case in point though, his on-the-fly decision making was truly sensational at his peak, as was his general gamesense and mental strength. Protosses not so much. I think they have the capacity for sure, but there's just a bit less of a mechanical demand with that race. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:05 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD Watching Bogus' FPOV is brutal. After that, your replays seem like they're played by a 70 years old man crippled with arthritis. | ||
75
Germany4057 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:09 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:05 sAsImre wrote: On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. watching dayshi and bogus fpvod is like watching different games XD Watching Bogus' FPOV is brutal. After that, your replays seem like they're played by a 70 years old man crippled with arthritis. it's like. OK. Never scroll anything with the mouse. I'd lose to the AI if I try to mimic just the way he uses hotkeys/minimap for everything lol. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23767 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote: im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time. Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:10 Wombat_NI wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote: im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time. Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc teach him to proxy 2g. It should lead to a decent ratio :D | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:04 Musicus wrote: On November 17 2013 10:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Symbol 3-0 Babyknight Taeja 3-1 HerO Happy 2-3 Hyun Leenock 3-1 Jjakji Taeja 3-2 Symbol Leenock 3-2 Hyun Leenock 4-3 Taeja Leenock wins! You underestimate Babyknight. He already beat Symbol and I think he counters the roach heavy style from Symbol well. 3-2 either way I think. I watched and I think Symbol played pretty badly compared to his day 2 performance and the games were STILL close. Then again I don't watch many BabyK games so maybe he wasn't giving his best either. Still, I'm playing it safe and going with the Korean. Yeah I think it's the safer bet, but not 3-0. Well we'll see tomorrow, I'm hyped! | ||
hipo
France482 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:06 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:05 hipo wrote: Good bracket for Jjakji as long as Hyun take care of Happy. jjakji can beat Happy if he meets him again. He now knows his style and won't make again the same kind of mistakes he did in the Yeonsu game, playing too passive and allowing Happy to reach his comfort zone. I know, but I still think Hyun is an easier opponent for him :D | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23767 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:11 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:10 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 10:09 75 wrote: im wondering how long this will take tomorrow if they only play one match at a time. Hopefully most of the day. Got my kid around, got to expose him to Starcraft early. First bonjwa inc teach him to proxy 2g. It should lead to a decent ratio :D If I'm going to have him grind mechanics, I see no reason to ever have him play Protoss as he won't benefit. he shall not make the same mistakes as his foolish father | ||
KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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