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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:06 IcemanAsi wrote: Does that include DK? Cause apparently he thinks WM need to be nerfed to 1.25 range  David Kim is not nerfing widow mines because a single european Zerg is being outplayed by MMA. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:09 NovaMB wrote: I can feel a mod warning coming any second now I'm hoping for one. This is just sad. | ||
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goody153
44230 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:07 Darkhoarse wrote: The fact that Vortix is in the ro4 of WCS EU is impressive in and of itself. I like seeing him do well. i always thought vortix was just a patchzerg during broodfestor era .. he made me realize i am wrong today | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:09 Darkhoarse wrote: That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style. Actually, marine-mine without marauders relies on excellent splitting, hence ForGG stopped doing it and adds marauders. | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote: Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable. Don´t play versus terrans like mma isn´t the answere buddy ..  | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras? The Terran player doesn't have to make any investment to get 3/3. Zerg has to make an Infestation Pit + morphing his Lair to a Hive and then researching 3/3. That's a lot of time and money, which is very expensive when the Zerg is constantly under pressure and has to make units non-stop. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote: This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation. Its the same people that complain about "PvT" imba when someone like Rain destroys someone like Thorzain. because obviously they are on the same level and any game that Rain wins is due to imbalance and not because he is much much better | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote: This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation. I also play zerg and totally agree. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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SkullZ9
Belgium2048 Posts
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote: MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders. Why would he make marauders when there's no way that Vortix can get ultras? How is making units that work against your opponent's composition "abuse"? | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9031 Posts
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Scholes
Venezuela312 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:10 Scholes wrote: this one is kind of looking good for vortix Oh, never mind ^_^ | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:10 lolfail9001 wrote: Actually, marine-mine without marauders relies on excellent splitting, hence ForGG stopped doing it and adds marauders. Hmm I definitely saw him going no marauders a week or so ago. | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote: Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable. but it is so much more micro intensive to micro against WM than to do damage with them in the end, zergs are more limited than terran because terrans needs less APM to do the same actions | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote: Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable. Exactly. I hated mines initially, but eventually I began to enjoy the opportunity to actually micro. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:12 Darkhoarse wrote: Hmm I definitely saw him going no marauders a week or so ago. I just reference his TvZs against Snute. | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
yeah. was really scary from MMA but Vortix could defend it somehow oh lol. missread it :D | ||
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