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unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#921
On October 07 2013 00:06 IcemanAsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:02 Keeemy wrote:
People complaining about mines should just stfu

Does that include DK?
Cause apparently he thinks WM need to be nerfed to 1.25 range


David Kim is not nerfing widow mines because a single european Zerg is being outplayed by MMA.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#922
On October 07 2013 00:09 NovaMB wrote:
I can feel a mod warning coming any second now

I'm hoping for one. This is just sad.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#923
On October 07 2013 00:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:06 goody153 wrote:
i am actually more impressed of vortix than mma being back to his crazy form ..
yes mma is back .. but vortix man .. normal zerg players would have cracked under constant nonstop aggression .. but vortix even equalized that game at times and he survived for almost 30 minutes before mma made the killer move with mass amount of mutas with only 2 and a half base mining

The fact that Vortix is in the ro4 of WCS EU is impressive in and of itself. I like seeing him do well.


i always thought vortix was just a patchzerg during broodfestor era .. he made me realize i am wrong today
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#924
On October 07 2013 00:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.

That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style.

Actually, marine-mine without marauders relies on excellent splitting, hence ForGG stopped doing it and adds marauders.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#925
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.


Don´t play versus terrans like mma isn´t the answere buddy ..
invisible tetris level master
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#926
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?

The Terran player doesn't have to make any investment to get 3/3. Zerg has to make an Infestation Pit + morphing his Lair to a Hive and then researching 3/3. That's a lot of time and money, which is very expensive when the Zerg is constantly under pressure and has to make units non-stop.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#927
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Its the same people that complain about "PvT" imba when someone like Rain destroys someone like Thorzain. because obviously they are on the same level and any game that Rain wins is due to imbalance and not because he is much much better
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#928
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.

I also play zerg and totally agree.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#929
Amazing he killed it just before the upgrade finished. Go MMA!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#930
Vortix so unlucky with this upgrade, noooo :'(
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#931
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.


Why would he make marauders when there's no way that Vortix can get ultras?

How is making units that work against your opponent's composition "abuse"?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#932
MMA may very well take it all, playing like this.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
October 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#933
should've uprooted the spore to save that evo.
Scholes
Profile Joined December 2012
Venezuela312 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#934
On October 07 2013 00:10 Scholes wrote:
this one is kind of looking good for vortix

Oh, never mind ^_^
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#935
On October 07 2013 00:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.

That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style.

Actually, marine-mine without marauders relies on excellent splitting, hence ForGG stopped doing it and adds marauders.

Hmm I definitely saw him going no marauders a week or so ago.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#936
On October 07 2013 00:12 Scholes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:10 Scholes wrote:
this one is kind of looking good for vortix

Oh, never mind ^_^


https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#937
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.

but it is so much more micro intensive to micro against WM than to do damage with them
in the end, zergs are more limited than terran because terrans needs less APM to do the same actions
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#938
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.

Exactly. I hated mines initially, but eventually I began to enjoy the opportunity to actually micro.
Long live the King of Wings
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#939
On October 07 2013 00:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.

That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style.

Actually, marine-mine without marauders relies on excellent splitting, hence ForGG stopped doing it and adds marauders.

Hmm I definitely saw him going no marauders a week or so ago.

I just reference his TvZs against Snute.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:13:22
October 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#940
On October 07 2013 00:12 Scholes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:10 Scholes wrote:
this one is kind of looking good for vortix

Oh, never mind ^_^

yeah. was really scary from MMA but Vortix could defend it somehow
oh lol. missread it :D
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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