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IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
October 06 2013 15:06 GMT
#901
On October 07 2013 00:02 Keeemy wrote:
People complaining about mines should just stfu

Does that include DK?
Cause apparently he thinks WM need to be nerfed to 1.25 range
No ones saying they are OP, they are just stronger then the other Terran options, which lead to samey mid-game every game. Which kinda sucks.
But that's the last I'm gonna say about it, let's just enjoy MMA melting face.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6661 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#902
On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote:
Why do people like this so much?
TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ...

Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER.


It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins.

Would you rather it be NR20 min tech to BL/infestor?

Constant pushing and battles is fucking fun to watch, it pushes players skills having to constantly micro while keeping up macro back home etc. TvZ mid game is by far my favourite thing to watch Sc2..
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#903
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?

It comes to action really late. In fact, DRG gets it only after he manages to drive away the rally, since otherwise he will just die.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#904
On October 07 2013 00:06 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:04 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:03 Nachtwind wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:02 Weavel wrote:
Hahahaha all these people still blaming widow mines


Ya the widow mine micro was so good

The marine splitting vs Banelings was pretty sick. If only the ling/baneling micro vs Widow mines had been as good. Which it can be.

pretty sick on offspread?. its super easy because banelings are super slow offspread.


Please do a video where you split vs banelings. if its that easy to do, everybody could do that. And almost noone can infact..
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#905
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?


Where to get that when you need those mins and gas to fight constant attacks where just one slip means instant kill? amiright?
invisible tetris level master
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#906
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?

vortix economy was bad all agme long and he needed all the gas he had for mutas and banelings.
i am normally a big fan of early hives, but this time it wasnt possible
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#907
On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote:
Why do people like this so much?
TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ...

Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER.


It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins.

yea terran for sure imba

http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/

tvz 48%

performance -51
yo
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#908
On October 07 2013 00:06 goody153 wrote:
i am actually more impressed of vortix than mma being back to his crazy form ..
yes mma is back .. but vortix man .. normal zerg players would have cracked under constant nonstop aggression .. but vortix even equalized that game at times and he survived for almost 30 minutes before mma made the killer move with mass amount of mutas with only 2 and a half base mining

The fact that Vortix is in the ro4 of WCS EU is impressive in and of itself. I like seeing him do well.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:08:26
October 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#909
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12865 Posts
October 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#910
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?

you need upgraded high count of muta and banelings lings non stop to deal with non stop bio mine push.
unless somehow you are free to pay up all the gas for infestation pit, hive and upgrades and ultras and ultras upgrade and infestors and infestors upgrade, most just prefer to win with muta ling baneling because you can win by mechanics
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
October 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#911
On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote:
Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get?
Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?

He was on 6 gazes most off the game. No way he would have held MMA's constant agression while teching to hive. Also going for infestors means no mutalisks which means gg versus a Terran such as MMA.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#912
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.
Long live the King of Wings
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#913
I can feel a mod warning coming any second now
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#914
GOOD scout
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#915
On October 07 2013 00:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote:
Why do people like this so much?
TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ...

Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER.


It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins.

Except that nexus wars only have 2 lanes, this one may have a Frost as lane.


Mobas origins from this constant rallies. And judging how popular it became in such a short time, I would say alot of people like it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#916
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.

Actually, having 15+ mines is standard and if terran has less it means, that he either forgot to make 'em or zerg so good, that picked 'em all. Also, Marine-mine is easier to macro, than 4M.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44298 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#917
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.


why would he make marauders ? there were no roach nor ultras that time
this is a quote
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#918
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#919
On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.

That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Scholes
Profile Joined December 2012
Venezuela312 Posts
October 06 2013 15:10 GMT
#920
this one is kind of looking good for vortix
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