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On October 07 2013 00:02 Keeemy wrote: People complaining about mines should just stfu Does that include DK? Cause apparently he thinks WM need to be nerfed to 1.25 range  No ones saying they are OP, they are just stronger then the other Terran options, which lead to samey mid-game every game. Which kinda sucks. But that's the last I'm gonna say about it, let's just enjoy MMA melting face.
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On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote: Why do people like this so much? TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ... Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER. It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins. Would you rather it be NR20 min tech to BL/infestor?
Constant pushing and battles is fucking fun to watch, it pushes players skills having to constantly micro while keeping up macro back home etc. TvZ mid game is by far my favourite thing to watch Sc2..
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras? It comes to action really late. In fact, DRG gets it only after he manages to drive away the rally, since otherwise he will just die.
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:04 LimitSEA wrote:On October 07 2013 00:03 Nachtwind wrote:On October 07 2013 00:02 Weavel wrote:Hahahaha all these people still blaming widow mines Ya the widow mine micro was so good  The marine splitting vs Banelings was pretty sick. If only the ling/baneling micro vs Widow mines had been as good. Which it can be. pretty sick on offspread?. its super easy because banelings are super slow offspread.
Please do a video where you split vs banelings. if its that easy to do, everybody could do that. And almost noone can infact..
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras?
Where to get that when you need those mins and gas to fight constant attacks where just one slip means instant kill? amiright?
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras? vortix economy was bad all agme long and he needed all the gas he had for mutas and banelings. i am normally a big fan of early hives, but this time it wasnt possible
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On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote: Why do people like this so much? TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ... Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER. It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins. yea terran for sure imba
http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/
tvz 48%
performance -51
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On October 07 2013 00:06 goody153 wrote: i am actually more impressed of vortix than mma being back to his crazy form .. yes mma is back .. but vortix man .. normal zerg players would have cracked under constant nonstop aggression .. but vortix even equalized that game at times and he survived for almost 30 minutes before mma made the killer move with mass amount of mutas with only 2 and a half base mining The fact that Vortix is in the ro4 of WCS EU is impressive in and of itself. I like seeing him do well.
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MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras? you need upgraded high count of muta and banelings lings non stop to deal with non stop bio mine push. unless somehow you are free to pay up all the gas for infestation pit, hive and upgrades and ultras and ultras upgrade and infestors and infestors upgrade, most just prefer to win with muta ling baneling because you can win by mechanics
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On October 07 2013 00:06 Thezzy wrote: Why is 3/3 so rare for Zerg to get? Surely the investment is worth it along with ability to get Adrenal Glands and Ultras? He was on 6 gazes most off the game. No way he would have held MMA's constant agression while teching to hive. Also going for infestors means no mutalisks which means gg versus a Terran such as MMA.
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This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.
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I can feel a mod warning coming any second now
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On October 07 2013 00:05 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:05 Vandrad wrote:On October 07 2013 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:03 Vandrad wrote: Why do people like this so much? TvZ midgame is just nexus wars with micro ... Nexus wars with micro? Man, that is the best thing to happen EVER. It's always the same. Terran rallies till the zerg is dead. And sometimes zerg pushes terran back and just wins. Except that nexus wars only have 2 lanes, this one may have a Frost as lane.
Mobas origins from this constant rallies. And judging how popular it became in such a short time, I would say alot of people like it.
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On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote: MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders. Actually, having 15+ mines is standard and if terran has less it means, that he either forgot to make 'em or zerg so good, that picked 'em all. Also, Marine-mine is easier to macro, than 4M.
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On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote: MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders.
why would he make marauders ? there were no roach nor ultras that time
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On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote: This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.
Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.
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On October 07 2013 00:08 Pitrocelli wrote: MMA is really smart. He has seen that Blizzard confirmed mines being too good for their cost in test map notes and abuse them as long as he can. No other terran is playing with 20 mines at the same time, totally ignoring marauders. That's not actually true. If you watch some popular terran streamers you'll see that is a fairly common TvZ style. ForGG, Select, etc. all do marine with a ton of mines style.
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this one is kind of looking good for vortix
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