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double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
October 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#1401
On October 10 2013 03:46 WoodenSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 03:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 10 2013 03:33 WoodenSky wrote:
worst that could happen :p

The better players won anyways. The better players today.


That's the thing with SC2, it's about the 'better players today' rather than about the better players overall

That's so true, I don't like domination but I absolute hate it when there no gap between best and the good, one you can win the tournament and yet the next season you completely play like trash. I used to have hype when new blood come to the scene but imho really miss the time where we have a king to hail for and eager to watch a game if he can be dethroned, now for months not even a single ppl can get two consecutive title.
Starcraft FTW
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2013 01:51 GMT
#1402
On October 10 2013 10:41 lichter wrote:
"I can't connect with these new players" is such a crummy close minded reason. Everyone was new and unknown at one point.

Like I have said earlier, if we never gave people a chance to get to know them and like how they play, we'd never have new favorites, new legends, new stories to tell. Clinging to old favorites and shunning new great players is what causes games to die.


There are new players that are actually interesting though

like SORA, too bad his hype train already derailed.

#sorawasgod
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 10 2013 01:53 GMT
#1403
Too bad his PvP sucks I was really hoping he'd go straight to Code S

We need a new hipster bonjwa to nominate

2014 will be HammEr time mark my words
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 10 2013 01:57 GMT
#1404
Actually, I don't think it's the new players that have trouble acquiring fans (Sora anyone?). Rather, I think its the players that have been consistently average/good without being particularly notable and then suddenly get slightly better and/or make a lucky run. Essentially, players who fall into these categories:

1)Perceived to be mid-tier players, floating between Code A and Code S Ro16.
2)Strong opponents in the group stages, but not considered to be actual GSL Championship contenders.
3)No particularly distinguishable traits in play/personality. (that the fans see)
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
October 10 2013 02:01 GMT
#1405
Who cares if you naysayers watch it or not? The Korean fanbase of soO or Dear might just be as big as SoulKey's and probably quintuples that of Maru's

So yeah, plenty of people will watch. Imagine half of the AX Hall filled with red SKT?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#1406
On October 10 2013 11:01 Arceus wrote:
Who cares if you naysayers watch it or not? The Korean fanbase of soO or Dear might just be as big as SoulKey's and probably quintuples that of Maru's

So yeah, plenty of people will watch. Imagine half of the AX Hall filled with red SKT?


pretty sure Dear doesn't have a fanbase, soO might though since he's fairly oldschool.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 10 2013 02:07 GMT
#1407
On October 10 2013 11:01 Arceus wrote:
Who cares if you naysayers watch it or not? The Korean fanbase of soO or Dear might just be as big as SoulKey's and probably quintuples that of Maru's

So yeah, plenty of people will watch. Imagine half of the AX Hall filled with red SKT?

nah maru is fairly popular, you just hater
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 10 2013 02:16 GMT
#1408
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2013 02:19 GMT
#1409
On October 10 2013 11:16 lichter wrote:
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313915

like 75% of the posts in there are in 2013, so probably not.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 02:20:00
October 10 2013 02:19 GMT
#1410
Does it matter all that much if the GOM Studio is half empty? It's quite small. It would be a far cry from an empty stadium.
KT best KT ~ 2014
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
October 10 2013 02:28 GMT
#1411
Soulkey T_T At least Dear went through, please win!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#1412
On October 10 2013 11:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 11:16 lichter wrote:
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313915

like 75% of the posts in there are in 2013, so probably not.


I don't remember him being very popular either. In fact I remember him being derided for being a cheesy player up until some point, and not well liked. When did that change, I wonder.

And if perception of Maru changed, why can't it for Dear and soO?
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2013 02:36 GMT
#1413
On October 10 2013 11:33 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 11:19 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2013 11:16 lichter wrote:
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313915

like 75% of the posts in there are in 2013, so probably not.


I don't remember him being very popular either. In fact I remember him being derided for being a cheesy player up until some point, and not well liked. When did that change, I wonder.

And if perception of Maru changed, why can't it for Dear and soO?


It can. If Dear wins all the Protoss players will rally around him and if he says a word in English or something at the season finals BOOM fan favorite.

At this exact moment I couldn't care less about him though.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 02:51:02
October 10 2013 02:36 GMT
#1414
On October 10 2013 11:01 Arceus wrote:
Who cares if you naysayers watch it or not? The Korean fanbase of soO or Dear might just be as big as SoulKey's and probably quintuples that of Maru's

So yeah, plenty of people will watch. Imagine half of the AX Hall filled with red SKT?

Cheer for Dear, the ever protoss champion
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 10 2013 02:46 GMT
#1415
On October 10 2013 11:36 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 11:33 lichter wrote:
On October 10 2013 11:19 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2013 11:16 lichter wrote:
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313915

like 75% of the posts in there are in 2013, so probably not.


I don't remember him being very popular either. In fact I remember him being derided for being a cheesy player up until some point, and not well liked. When did that change, I wonder.

And if perception of Maru changed, why can't it for Dear and soO?


It can. If Dear wins all the Protoss players will rally around him and if he says a word in English or something at the season finals BOOM fan favorite.

At this exact moment I couldn't care less about him though.


Dear should cry. Insta-favorite.
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BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
October 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#1416
sigh...
[Woongjin Stars]
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 10 2013 04:11 GMT
#1417
geez, the way some people talk you'd think it would be better to just have show matches between the two most popular players... forget having tournaments at all, am i right?

the winners earned their wins
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
October 10 2013 04:58 GMT
#1418
On October 10 2013 13:11 Waise wrote:
geez, the way some people talk you'd think it would be better to just have show matches between the two most popular players... forget having tournaments at all, am i right?

the winners earned their wins


THIS. Seriously guys give some people some credit. I realize everyone has their favorite and all that, but man, don't act like the game is broken because the more liked person didn't win or something. If anything, it shows how pretty balanced the game is right now with one play style not able to dominate the scene. The most adaptive players and players who are able to morph with their opponents play style will show they are able to contend year after year. For some reason people haven't figured that out yet and are too busy focusing on one specific play style. More and more we are seeing winners of tournaments that come into the games with completely open minds and smart/intelligent builds and strategies that are highly adaptive and reactive. It's quite exciting because you never know who's going to pull it off, and rooting for the underdog is pretty rewarding these days.

I'm sure if there was one person just dominating the scene people would be complaining in the reverse, saying nobody has a chance and things are stale, nobody we root for gets a win because "blank" wins everytime. C'mon, enjoy yourselves! lighten up some :D
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 10 2013 05:02 GMT
#1419
On October 10 2013 11:16 lichter wrote:
Was Maru very popular before Season 2? I honestly don't remember.


Didn't seem like it, as he wasn't very consistent prior to HotS. He had a brief surge early in 2012, then fell off the wagon for awhile. The main thing he had that was notable for the longest time was his competitiveness at such a young age. He was regarded as the weakest starter pokemon while Life and Creator lit the world on fire.

The table's have turned lately though >_>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2013 05:05 GMT
#1420
No matter what you guys say you're not going to change the minds of some people that aren't excited for the finals. This isn't even a SC2 thing. Prime example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100923

No one cared then, even when it was Brood War and everything in Brood War is awesome because It's BROOD WARRRR. It has nothing to do with sc2 being dead or anything like that, people just won't care about a finals between two players they don't care about.
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