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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 09 2013 10:57 GMT
#981
On October 09 2013 19:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:54 Aunvilgod wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:48 Keeemy wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
This matchup -.-

ZvZ is a good matchup, not many stupid coinflips


Eh I am not too sure how much micro is involved in these roach battles. I'd rather see a multitasking centered game with mutalisks.

presporebuff mutas was hardly a multitasking game though

Whether there was multitasking or not, the game usually ended with a cloud of mutas attacking each other while flying in place, lings running around impotently below them. Someone has less mutas, or tries to micro their mutas, and dies. Bleh. Leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
Long live the King of Wings
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 10:58:01
October 09 2013 10:57 GMT
#982
On October 09 2013 19:56 Dark.Carnival wrote:
games like that are why i'm happy i don't have to play zvz anymore. thank god i didn't get fooled into switching back when the matchup was fun with mutas only to get nerfed instantly D:

T or P, which one did you switch to?

If you switched to P, shame on you.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#983
On October 09 2013 19:57 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:56 Dark.Carnival wrote:
games like that are why i'm happy i don't have to play zvz anymore. thank god i didn't get fooled into switching back when the matchup was fun with mutas only to get nerfed instantly D:

T or P, which one did you switch to?


Maybe he just 6 pools ZvZ.
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 10:58:47
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#984
On October 09 2013 19:56 dreamseller wrote:
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On October 09 2013 19:49 Garnet wrote:
so damn annoying when the observer doesn't show the upgrades.


i saw them shown like 8 times, and aren't they on display down the bottom of the gamehart ui?

And you see them in the production tab for the whole (edit: research) length. No way to not know the upgrades imo.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#985
On October 09 2013 19:57 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:56 Dark.Carnival wrote:
games like that are why i'm happy i don't have to play zvz anymore. thank god i didn't get fooled into switching back when the matchup was fun with mutas only to get nerfed instantly D:

T or P, which one did you switch to?

If you switched to P, shame on you.

terran
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#986
The problem i have on that game, it was only "fun" back and forth because of so many mistakes xD
First off Soulkey fucked up on his upgrades leaving his +1 armor to be almost 3/4 behind that of SoO's
Then the big fuck up off SoO not to start +2 after he had finished his 1-1 (well over 5-8mins)
Then they both refused to do anything different and we had a back and forth u sack ur roaches ill sack mine.
Topping it off with poor engagement locations xD The attack up the ramp of the natural by Soulkey was the reason he lost the game. He lost like 10 roaches for free there, very silly
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#987
lol just cooked something and kept reading the LR thread casually - "Artosis just cursed SoO, SK wins!"

Then I check the result - 2:0 SoO :D

Who would have thought a ZvZ could bring at least indirectly pleasure?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 09 2013 10:58 GMT
#988
That song comes on and the chat immediately fills with sorrowful pink faces I'm not allowed to describe.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#989
On October 09 2013 19:49 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
This matchup -.-

I prefer I maek roach to I maek muta because you can actually micro in roach v roach. Try and micro muta v muta and unless you have a ton more mutas, you die.


yeah, pretty much this. Roach wars are so much more interesting after watching all the mass muta no micro silliness. You can have some neat micro/transfuse/flanks all that good stuff
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#990
ZvZ is the only MU left thats fun to play in HotS...

I wish WoL was back^^
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VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#991
On October 09 2013 19:56 cutler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:53 ZenithM wrote:
Haha most unexpected finals coming? :D


Unexpected finals? It was pretty clear that an Protoss going to win this Event just look at KR GM.
btw zvz is soO boring to watch ;-)


I dunno mang, not only is korean GM not a very good indication, protoss players as a whole have a long tradtions of doing well in tournaments, making it to the finals and then losing. All hail Stork!
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#992
roach zvz is cool, it's like two blobs headbutt into each other until one of them passes out. It's all about the blob control!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#993
I am surprised that a lot of people disliked that game, I thought there were a lot of interesting points and I was very impressed how Soo always took better engagements which stopped Soulkey using his upgrade advantage.
when he pushed Soulkey just before the +2 of SK hit it kind of hit a reset on the roach count which stopped SK being able to get much from his +2.

Soo has really changed my opinion of him.
Zerg for Life
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#994
this christian pop irritates me
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dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#995
On October 09 2013 19:54 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:53 Heartland wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:50 HammerKick wrote:
Aren't mutas an effective switch in ZvZ when it's going to roach wars?

Considering that no one wants to make hydras


Not really to get any kind of surprising amount of mutas would be nearly 1000 gas, and that is a lot less roaches so the opponent just pushes you, you have to use the mutas to defend and meanwhile they can spore up and get hydras


Starcraft can always be put in those terms no matter the builds, but it's never the whole truth. It's situational, about mind-games and so on.

In this particular game though? With constant scrappy aggression? No way trying to go mutas would work.


maybe with some spines? would be kind of obvious the muta switch was coming, but it'd be possible
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 09 2013 10:59 GMT
#996
On October 09 2013 19:58 Daralii wrote:
That song comes on and the chat immediately fills with sorrowful pink faces I'm not allowed to describe.

That song makes me ashamed when my brother joins me watching sc2 in my room. Sounds like i have gone full emo.
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rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
October 09 2013 11:00 GMT
#997
On October 09 2013 19:57 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:55 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:54 Aunvilgod wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:48 Keeemy wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
This matchup -.-

ZvZ is a good matchup, not many stupid coinflips


Eh I am not too sure how much micro is involved in these roach battles. I'd rather see a multitasking centered game with mutalisks.

presporebuff mutas was hardly a multitasking game though

Whether there was multitasking or not, the game usually ended with a cloud of mutas attacking each other while flying in place, lings running around impotently below them. Someone has less mutas, or tries to micro their mutas, and dies. Bleh. Leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

The climactic fight is generally boring but there's usually a really exciting and dynamic game up to that point. There's all these lings and banelings constantly running around, delaying 3rds, killing drones etc. which all affects the muta count which ultimately decides the final battle.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 09 2013 11:00 GMT
#998
My Liquibets have gone so terribly today. ;_; Cmon Soulkey save me
Hello
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 09 2013 11:00 GMT
#999
On October 09 2013 19:59 opterown wrote:
this christian pop irritates me


we're so irritated today
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2013 11:00 GMT
#1000
On October 09 2013 19:58 Pandemona wrote:
The problem i have on that game, it was only "fun" back and forth because of so many mistakes xD
First off Soulkey fucked up on his upgrades leaving his +1 armor to be almost 3/4 behind that of SoO's
Then the big fuck up off SoO not to start +2 after he had finished his 1-1 (well over 5-8mins)
Then they both refused to do anything different and we had a back and forth u sack ur roaches ill sack mine.
Topping it off with poor engagement locations xD The attack up the ramp of the natural by Soulkey was the reason he lost the game. He lost like 10 roaches for free there, very silly


He may have had a reason to delay upgrades (more roaches maybe) it doesn't necessarily make it a fuck up.
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