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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 10:37:04
October 09 2013 10:36 GMT
#841
Thanks for the recaps, Pan
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#842
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#843
Well that was just a terrible game xD
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
oriontr
Profile Joined July 2013
Turkey120 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#844
so solid i hope next game gonna be better...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#845
On October 09 2013 19:36 opterown wrote:
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. soO Game 1?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
 
43%

★★★- Good game (6)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
 
13%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
13%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
4%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. soO Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#846
I struggle to understand why anyone likes soo, but it seems like he has a decent amount of support. is it pity on skt zergs or something?
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 10:38:23
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#847
On October 09 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:32 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I woke up late, can I get a quick run down of the Dear/Maru series? Not from some whining Terran, pls thanks



game 4 was maru failing a 11/11 rax


Game 4 was maru panic mode wtf 11/11 with Fantasy GG timing. Worth the watch.

maru has balls of steel, that same 11/11 when down a few games won him an OSL


You don't pull SCVs when you have ball of steel. When you panic, you do.
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
October 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#848
On October 09 2013 19:33 RESOqub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:17 Undead1993 wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:15 Undead1993 wrote:
how does it come that when a toss wins a series agaisnt t the thread is full of whine about this and that, but if a terran wins everyone says how good of a game it was? these terrans damn.


Because in all Terran victories there was never whining about the widow mine or marines or anything

Right

if you look closer, you can see i am talking about pvt


PvT is an atrocious matchup at the moment since the nexus cannon removed most of the cheese and the timing innovation within the matchup for terran. It has become a game of Protoss cheese whackamole (all of which are far stronger than Terran cheese) followed by either a pre-storm SCV pull or a slow death animation for the Terran.

When a Terran wins PvT, it is legitimately because they were the better player. When a Protoss wins, you can't always be sure that is true (though it frequently is true). Thus far Blizzard have shown no intention of changing the matchup so it is more entertaining or more enjoyable to play for Terrans. Of course the obvious route is to make siege tanks viable in the match up, especially since they are by far the most interesting unit Terrans have and opens up a great deal more strategies.

ZvT suffers from a similar problem in that the zerg is forced into a composition by the strength of certain Terran units (namely widow mines). However there is something of a balance in this in that the widow mines are forced into the composition due to the strength of mutalisks. The cheese isn't too effected and there's still a ton of openings in the matchup. The same thing needs to happen there - widow mines and mutalisks need a reasonable nerf and then the matchup can start opening out again.


Less tears, more learning: http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-641-mma-vs-mc/
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#849
On October 09 2013 19:37 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:32 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I woke up late, can I get a quick run down of the Dear/Maru series? Not from some whining Terran, pls thanks



game 4 was maru failing a 11/11 rax


Game 4 was maru panic mode wtf 11/11 with Fantasy GG timing. Worth the watch.

maru has balls of steel, that same 11/11 when down a few games won him an OSL


You don't pull SCVs when you have ball of steel.

tell that to bomber
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#850
I actually really enjoyed that game. The speed cancel was pretty cool. Wonder if it was a fake out or if it was something he saw? Much more interesting for some reason than normal silly roach vs roach games
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#851
On October 09 2013 19:37 Aunvilgod wrote:
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.

This. Such a cheap, idiotic move to force the matchup being different from BW.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#852
[SKT1]SoO FTW!!!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#853
On October 09 2013 19:37 Aunvilgod wrote:
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.


I think before the spore nerf half of TL was complaining about muta v muta

I think Roach vs Roach is pretty interesting actually,
Zerg for Life
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#854
On October 09 2013 19:38 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:37 Aunvilgod wrote:
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.

This. Such a cheap, idiotic move to force the matchup being different from BW.


Nah, it was good. Now there are at least other possible builds than muta.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#855
On October 09 2013 19:37 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:32 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I woke up late, can I get a quick run down of the Dear/Maru series? Not from some whining Terran, pls thanks



game 4 was maru failing a 11/11 rax


Game 4 was maru panic mode wtf 11/11 with Fantasy GG timing. Worth the watch.

maru has balls of steel, that same 11/11 when down a few games won him an OSL


You don't pull SCVs when you have ball of steel. When you panic, you do.

Tell that to Mvp.

And if you dare insinuate Mvp doesn't have balls of steel, I challenge you to a duel.
Long live the King of Wings
RESOqub
Profile Joined September 2013
51 Posts
October 09 2013 10:38 GMT
#856
On October 09 2013 19:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:32 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I woke up late, can I get a quick run down of the Dear/Maru series? Not from some whining Terran, pls thanks

game 1 was a relatively passive macro game. maru did some nice drops in the midgame, but he bungled the important engagement near his 3rd and lost to some carpet storms.

game 2 was dear getting a nice lead with oracles, but maru came back with some nice drops and micro, pulling dear apart.

game 3 was maru going 4reapers and failing to scout the blink allin (maru thought it was DTs). game pretty over

game 4 was maru failing a 11/11 rax


ok thanks! sounds like it was...a somewhat interesting series then

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:33 RESOqub wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:17 Undead1993 wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:15 Undead1993 wrote:
how does it come that when a toss wins a series agaisnt t the thread is full of whine about this and that, but if a terran wins everyone says how good of a game it was? these terrans damn.


Because in all Terran victories there was never whining about the widow mine or marines or anything

Right

if you look closer, you can see i am talking about pvt


PvT is an atrocious matchup at the moment since the nexus cannon removed most of the cheese and the timing innovation within the matchup for terran. It has become a game of Protoss cheese whackamole (all of which are far stronger than Terran cheese) followed by either a pre-storm SCV pull or a slow death animation for the Terran.

When a Terran wins PvT, it is legitimately because they were the better player. When a Protoss wins, you can't always be sure that is true (though it frequently is true). Thus far Blizzard have shown no intention of changing the matchup so it is more entertaining or more enjoyable to play for Terrans. Of course the obvious route is to make siege tanks viable in the match up, especially since they are by far the most interesting unit Terrans have and opens up a great deal more strategies.

ZvT suffers from a similar problem in that the zerg is forced into a composition by the strength of certain Terran units (namely widow mines). However there is something of a balance in this in that the widow mines are forced into the composition due to the strength of mutalisks. The cheese isn't too effected and there's still a ton of openings in the matchup. The same thing needs to happen there - widow mines and mutalisks need a reasonable nerf and then the matchup can start opening out again.


lol


That was in reply to a previous post. What can I say, I had to get a shower :p
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
October 09 2013 10:39 GMT
#857
On October 09 2013 19:37 Aunvilgod wrote:
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.

Blizz massively buffs mutas in HOTS for no good reason (just because widow mines were too strong I guess?), realises mutas are too strong so gives spores massive anti-muta bonus. Seems like a silly ad hoc way to do balance.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
October 09 2013 10:39 GMT
#858
Have to point out, soO wouldn't have had those early queens with energy + lair timing and all that jazz if he didn't cancel the 100/100 upgrade. He would have had it, and maybe have held, but not as early. Was cool to see him completely skip ling speed.
Julyzerg ftw
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 09 2013 10:39 GMT
#859
On October 09 2013 19:38 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:37 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:32 opterown wrote:
On October 09 2013 19:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I woke up late, can I get a quick run down of the Dear/Maru series? Not from some whining Terran, pls thanks



game 4 was maru failing a 11/11 rax


Game 4 was maru panic mode wtf 11/11 with Fantasy GG timing. Worth the watch.

maru has balls of steel, that same 11/11 when down a few games won him an OSL


You don't pull SCVs when you have ball of steel.

tell that to bomber

You pull SCVs when you want to win. That should be the correct sentence.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12763 Posts
October 09 2013 10:39 GMT
#860
On October 09 2013 19:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 19:37 Aunvilgod wrote:
nerf spores pls. Roach vs Roach is unbearable.


I think before the spore nerf half of TL was complaining about muta v muta

I think Roach vs Roach is pretty interesting actually,

yup, I agree with, lots of depth with roach vs roach matchup actually
zvz is really enjoyable to watch for me
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