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Stop balance whining. Do we seriously need a mod note for this? Disappointing. |
On September 06 2013 20:07 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On September 06 2013 20:03 graNite wrote:On September 06 2013 20:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
fuck you mule :/ go away. No. It's true anyway. Unscouted base + instant mineral line is pretty good in those low-econ situations. do you really think inno won because of mules? he microed the marines for 10 minutes or so without getting major baneling hits, he constantly applied pressure and defended the muta harass. never steal my time again, just turn off the stream if this is boring and unfair for you.
I don't think it's imbalanced, but I do think Innovation won due to mules. If he had to transfer workers, the hidden base wouldn't have worked.
It's easily countered by having a couple of lings go down there, which DongRaeGu could've done.
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On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank. win games
FTFY
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On September 06 2013 20:07 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank. His job is to win, can't win with Marine/Tank right now
you also need to say that it is not possible to win with tanks because they are just worse mines. no anti air, no cloack, longer setup time.
highways, in the post before you said you were off, why are you still here?
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I like when Artosis says 'Innovation' fast and it sounds like 'Invasion'.
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On September 06 2013 20:06 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:05 Big-t wrote:
Well Zerg T2 < 4M. I don´t know why pro still don´t know it. DRG hadn´t much freedom to transition out though, I guess he knows. agree, he had the time for hive units, hell he even built an ultra cavern
The thing is, it takes a long time to build ultras and they're expensive units. You have to give it your all in spending on mutas + banes because if you let up, you'll end up losing your 4th and its gg. + you're having to constantly micro while thinking about all this.
I do think DRG had some windows of opportunity for the transition though, but you can only really go for it in that period when you have map presence and Terran is like 20-30 supply down.
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Haha, balancing on a knife's edge there.
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On September 06 2013 20:08 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:06 Big J wrote:On September 06 2013 20:05 Big J wrote:DongRaeGu vs GuMiho Game 2 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00  DongRaeGu starting in the bottom left  INnoVation starting in the top right 3:00 CC first into barracks and Gas for INnoVation Hatchery first into pool for DRG 5:00 reactored factory follow up into 3rd CC 4queen and double gas follow up Same builds as last game
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3rd for DRG, zergling speed, overlord speed
stim and hellions for INnoVation
2hellions running in scouting and killing 3drones
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On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank.
Weren't you supposed to go away?
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On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank.
Marine/Tank is in every possible way weaker than Bio/Mine in modern TvZ.
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On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank.
ok bro!
Lets go fight a war with katanas and body armor, the other side will totally not shoot you in the face to prevent loss of honor!
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On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank.
The goal of competitive StarCraft is not to be "a man", it's to win.
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On September 06 2013 20:07 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On September 06 2013 20:03 graNite wrote:On September 06 2013 20:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
fuck you mule :/ go away. No. It's true anyway. Unscouted base + instant mineral line is pretty good in those low-econ situations. do you really think inno won because of mules? he microed the marines for 10 minutes or so without getting major baneling hits, he constantly applied pressure and defended the muta harass. never steal my time again, just turn off the stream if this is boring and unfair for you.
Are you stupid? Innovation because he could fly the OC over to make another expansion and he could stay easily mule it for a burst of income in a game where both were struggling with minerals and DRG couldnt even afford a hatch. While he did micro like a beast it doesnt change the fact that the expansion won him the game
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On September 06 2013 20:09 Doko wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank. ok bro! Lets go fight a war with katanas and body armor, the other side will totally not shoot you in the face to prevent loss of honor!
I love that that actually happened in real life.
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On September 06 2013 20:09 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:08 Big J wrote:On September 06 2013 20:06 Big J wrote:On September 06 2013 20:05 Big J wrote:DongRaeGu vs GuMiho Game 2 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00 DongRaeGu starting in the bottom left INnoVation starting in the top right 3:00 CC first into barracks and Gas for INnoVation Hatchery first into pool for DRG 5:00 reactored factory follow up into 3rd CC 4queen and double gas follow up Same builds as last game 6:00-7:00 3rd for DRG, zergling speed, overlord speed stim and hellions for INnoVation 2hellions running in scouting and killing 3drones
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Burrow and double evolution chambers
hellions grilling some zerglings
InnoVation taking his 3rd
double ebays more barracks
baneling nest and lair for the way
DRG slightly ahead in the upgrades
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On September 06 2013 20:09 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:07 NarutO wrote:On September 06 2013 20:07 Highways wrote:
Why does everyone think innovation is so good?
All he does is abuse widow mines. A real manly Terran will use marine/tank. His job is to win, can't win with Marine/Tank right now you also need to say that it is not possible to win with tanks because they are just worse mines. no anti air, no cloack, longer setup time. highways, in the post before you said you were off, why are you still here?
Thats what I said  ?
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so many replies to a troll/bait post D:
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The best part about games like that on WW is seeing all the whines after the game is done and checking the automated banlist thread. feels good
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On September 06 2013 20:08 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 20:07 LimitSEA wrote:On September 06 2013 20:06 Scarecrow wrote:On September 06 2013 20:05 Twisting wrote:Kinda sad that TvZ went from the best mu to the worst mu. ZvP looks way more fun these days  Yeah that was the best TvZ in ages but it was still 25 minutes of bio-mine I'm over 4M, but at the same time that game was incredibly entertaining. If you want the game to be forever changing you are gonna have a bad time. Having two viable comps in a matchup is close to impossible.
That is incorrect.
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I prefered the polite troll
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