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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#1981
On August 12 2013 00:47 NoGasfOu wrote:
So much whining. Hey why don't NA and EU players play in KR WCS? You know that you're free to join right? Like Naniwa said he would play in KR WCS.



A tournament like this should be region restricted. They could simply give Korea more money and seeds for the big final.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#1982
--- Nuked ---
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1983
On August 12 2013 00:45 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!

Three low/mid-tier Koreans managed to do massive damage. No, they fucking suck and something needs to change.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10136 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1984
Stop talking trash in this thread.
We got white ra at the phone.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1985
Duckduck is also such a rage inducing name too lol.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1986
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You think it's fair that Korea has maybe 80-90% of the best players in the world, but they only have ONE WCS tournament with the same prize pool as the other regions? How about that?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1987
"okay cool!"

I have no idea what whitera said either o__o
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1988
at least Grubby is going to season finals.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1989
Papa Ra!


How can people still be so mad with the Ra-Man on screen?
Long live the King of Wings
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1990
On August 12 2013 00:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:46 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.


Oh you're one of those ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS people. I see. Carry on then.


You are disrespecting all the incredibly hard working people in the scene who barely can make a living of what they do.


No I'm disrespecting "fans" who care more about viewercounts and epeens than about watching and enjoying the fucking game.

And don't try to claim some sort of moral highground here. I've been watching competitive gaming since the old Quake and Brood War days. And I know for a fact Brood War was successful in Korea without having to rely on catering to a bunch of whiny little brats to have a decent viewercount. ~_~


You are watching esport for so long and still have learned so little?
What you are calling "whiny little brats" is usually pretty close to the mainstream and thats exactly what BW made a success in Korea. Not the hardcore fans.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1991
On August 12 2013 00:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:46 Tobblish wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:45 BigFan wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!


It's different if you actually watched the games and not just looked up the score sadly =/

wait, is that for me or him? lol. I missed yesterday's game but watched most of RO16. Maybe a bit too much lol.


For you, Mvp's vP was really sad to watch and he wasn't really fit for fight.
The curse is real
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:51:51
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1992
On August 12 2013 00:51 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:45 BigFan wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!

Three low/mid-tier Koreans managed to do massive damage. No, they fucking suck and something needs to change.


Like foreigners stop losing to low/mid-tier Koreans?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 11 2013 15:51 GMT
#1993
On August 12 2013 00:45 Gr33d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The premier league has players of many different nations, but all TEAMS are english. Its a teamgame afterall. Where are the brazilians,germans or dutch in the english national team? (Btw, a big reason why the english national team is shit is that they don't focus on their own players ^^)
Where are the european teams getting easy spots for the WC in the south pacific region?
Are there NBA Teams playing in the DBL? No? What a surprise.
Take a look at 1v1 sports too. If there is an european tennis championship, there will be no american players.

You will be able to see koreans in WCS KR, they will probably dominate the global season finals AND the WCS finals. Why not leave the regional brackets to players from that region.

Its kinda a moot point though, because there will never be complete offline events, Blizzard does not care that much to pay for all this. Its just another missed opportunity with SC2.


You screwed up your own argument. Wimbledon, the French Open, US Open and Australian Open are not region locked. In fact, a British player won Wimbledon recently for the first time in 70+ years or so.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
August 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#1994
On August 12 2013 00:47 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:44 grs wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.

My role in epsorts is a viewer and I prefer less viewers and less idiots.


Did you follow the BW scene? Because then you should know why more viewers is good for everyone.

Please explain to me.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#1995
On August 12 2013 00:51 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:46 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.


Oh you're one of those ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS people. I see. Carry on then.


You are disrespecting all the incredibly hard working people in the scene who barely can make a living of what they do.


No I'm disrespecting "fans" who care more about viewercounts and epeens than about watching and enjoying the fucking game.

And don't try to claim some sort of moral highground here. I've been watching competitive gaming since the old Quake and Brood War days. And I know for a fact Brood War was successful in Korea without having to rely on catering to a bunch of whiny little brats to have a decent viewercount. ~_~


You are watching esport for so long and still have learned so little?
What you are calling "whiny little brats" is usually pretty close to the mainstream and thats exactly what BW made a success in Korea. Not the hardcore fans.


Lol you really think the casual BW fans are the same as the dumbasses that populate LoL's online community?

I have no words... no words....
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
August 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#1996
On August 12 2013 00:51 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:45 Gr33d wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The premier league has players of many different nations, but all TEAMS are english. Its a teamgame afterall. Where are the brazilians,germans or dutch in the english national team? (Btw, a big reason why the english national team is shit is that they don't focus on their own players ^^)
Where are the european teams getting easy spots for the WC in the south pacific region?
Are there NBA Teams playing in the DBL? No? What a surprise.
Take a look at 1v1 sports too. If there is an european tennis championship, there will be no american players.

You will be able to see koreans in WCS KR, they will probably dominate the global season finals AND the WCS finals. Why not leave the regional brackets to players from that region.

Its kinda a moot point though, because there will never be complete offline events, Blizzard does not care that much to pay for all this. Its just another missed opportunity with SC2.


You screwed up your own argument. Wimbledon, the French Open, US Open and Australian Open are not region locked. In fact, a British player won Wimbledon recently for the first time in 70+ years or so.


You mean a British man won the men's Wimbledon for the first time in 70+ years.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#1997
lol whitera hahahah
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#1998
Bed and napkins. That's where the magic happens.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
August 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#1999
The haters in the thread are making me laugh so hard.
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Koreans are laughing their ass off at you.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#2000
On August 12 2013 00:51 Wildmoon wrote:
Duckduck is also such a rage inducing name too lol.


I couldnt agree more... His nick perfectly reflects his playstyle.
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