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[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 98

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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
August 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#1941
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.

My role in epsorts is a viewer and I prefer less viewers and less idiots.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1942
Damn, I want to sit in a bar too. A peated malt and an ale on the side. *sigh*
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1943
lol sadtod upset by nani
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1944
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1945
On August 12 2013 00:44 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:43 Incognoto wrote:
Soe seems a nice person.


Soe?


lol yeah, it's Foxy in the Barcraft Paris
Soa is a TI3 =d
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1946
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The premier league has players of many different nations, but all TEAMS are english. Its a teamgame afterall. Where are the brazilians,germans or dutch in the english national team? (Btw, a big reason why the english national team is shit is that they don't focus on their own players ^^)
Where are the european teams getting easy spots for the WC in the south pacific region?
Are there NBA Teams playing in the DBL? No? What a surprise.
Take a look at 1v1 sports too. If there is an european tennis championship, there will be no american players.

You will be able to see koreans in WCS KR, they will probably dominate the global season finals AND the WCS finals. Why not leave the regional brackets to players from that region.

Its kinda a moot point though, because there will never be complete offline events, Blizzard does not care that much to pay for all this. Its just another missed opportunity with SC2.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1947
i'm genuinely getting a headache while reading through this thread. is this normal or should i go see a doctor?
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1948
On August 12 2013 00:45 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!


It's different if you actually watched the games and not just looked up the score sadly =/
The curse is real
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1949
I m glad that i m not sitting in a bar, i would get mad at people disagreeing with me.......................................................
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1950
The analogy was already posted, and it´s effing solid.

Don´t compare WCS to freaking leagues



marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1951
On August 12 2013 00:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.


Oh you're one of those ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS people. I see. Carry on then.


You are disrespecting all the incredibly hard working people in the scene who barely can make a living of what they do.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1952
omg nils is so awkward
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:47:01
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1953
Apollo, never ever let a random german talk english on stream.

They cant do it
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1954
nils is not a very good english student
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#1955
On August 12 2013 00:45 ratbert wrote:
i'm genuinely getting a headache while reading through this thread. is this normal or should i go see a doctor?


It's normal. Welcome to LR threads.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#1956
On August 12 2013 00:45 Gr33d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The premier league has players of many different nations, but all TEAMS are english. Its a teamgame afterall. Where are the brazilians,germans or dutch in the english national team? (Btw, a big reason why the english national team is shit is that they don't focus on their own players ^^)
Where are the european teams getting easy spots for the WC in the south pacific region?
Are there NBA Teams playing in the DBL? No? What a surprise.
Take a look at 1v1 sports too. If there is an european tennis championship, there will be no american players.

You will be able to see koreans in WCS KR, they will probably dominate the global season finals AND the WCS finals. Why not leave the regional brackets to players from that region.

Its kinda a moot point though, because there will never be complete offline events, Blizzard does not care that much to pay for all this. Its just another missed opportunity with SC2.


So only British players play in the British Open in tennis and golf?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#1957
On August 12 2013 00:45 ratbert wrote:
i'm genuinely getting a headache while reading through this thread. is this normal or should i go see a doctor?

normal
Moderatorlickypiddy
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:48:53
August 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#1958
So much whining. Hey why don't NA and EU players play in KR WCS? You know that you're free to join right? Like Naniwa said he would play in KR WCS.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#1959
Can we use "duck" as a verb to describe duckduck beating someone? Duckduck is going to duck MC.
Year of MaxPax
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#1960
On August 12 2013 00:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:45 ratbert wrote:
i'm genuinely getting a headache while reading through this thread. is this normal or should i go see a doctor?


It's normal. Welcome to LR threads.

During a match LR threads are better than people give credit for but afterwards I normally grab popcorn or duck my head.
Glorious SEA doto
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