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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109 |
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On August 12 2013 00:36 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:32 LiamBrady wrote:
Wow, this thread got derailed pretty fucking quickly Yeah the amount of camaraderie and general manner during the series was great, but as soon as the series ended it became Grubby fans who were mature enough to accept it vs. Grubby fans raging about Finale. I presume the Finale fans are just scrolling through and laughing maniacally. Yeah I am sure "all the" finale fans are just scrolling through.
It was a joke, I don't pretend to know how people on TL are behaving.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 12 2013 00:33 FuRRie wrote:
Anyone else notice the steady clime in skill from Grubby?
Can't wait for next season allready. Yeah he's been getting better little by little Yes, his results are constantly getting better, I'm pleasantly surprised that he made it to Ro4.
Just rminds me of an super-young Grubby in WC3, he wasn't any good at the start, but oh boy, good things happened later on :D.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:35 hwatti wrote:
The main stream lost 15k viewers within minutes :S
I have to admit I rage-closed it for a bit as well. Never ragequit Twitch streams, you never know if you get a lag-free one ever again
haha thats true. god i hate the randomness it can give on twitch servers
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On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything... MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top. And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception. The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do.
And you know the US sends more athletes to Olympics compare with say Canada. And World Cup gives Europe more 'slots'. Again, region lock would be fine if they lowered the prize pool of the regionals and put it in the world finals. And that Koreans get like 12 spots, EU 2, NA 1 and China 1.
Not sure why people are shitting on the Koreans coming over to NA/EU. Do people realize very few players actually come from Korean TEAMS (Nestea, Mvp, duckduck)... The majority are from NA/EU teams like Liquid, EG, Axiom in NA, Acer, SK, Quantic in EU. If the western teams didn't pick up Koreans, most Koreans wouldn't be able to afford coming to play in NA/EU (they probably need to make Ro4 just to break even). So if you want to point fingers at people 'destroying' EU/NA, why not complain about the teams?
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On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.
I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed. I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.
Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.
Not sure if thats what you want.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 12 2013 00:33 FuRRie wrote:
Anyone else notice the steady clime in skill from Grubby?
Can't wait for next season allready. Yeah he's been getting better little by little Yes, his results are constantly getting better, I'm pleasantly surprised that he made it to Ro4.
People are so quick to forget that he almost won IEM Singapore... -_-
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On August 12 2013 00:37 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:36 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:34 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:32 LiamBrady wrote:
Wow, this thread got derailed pretty fucking quickly Yeah the amount of camaraderie and general manner during the series was great, but as soon as the series ended it became Grubby fans who were mature enough to accept it vs. Grubby fans raging about Finale. I presume the Finale fans are just scrolling through and laughing maniacally. Yeah I am sure "all the" finale fans are just scrolling through. It was a joke, I don't pretend to know how people on TL are behaving.
You were spot on with me if that makes you feel better :-D
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On August 12 2013 00:36 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:35 hwatti wrote:
The main stream lost 15k viewers within minutes :S
I have to admit I rage-closed it for a bit as well. Never ragequit Twitch streams, you never know if you get a lag-free one ever again
that could be a sexy quote for me.
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On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.
I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed. I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate. Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds. A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max. Not sure if thats what you want.
Works for FGC. Why not starcraft :O
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On August 12 2013 00:36 LiamBrady wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything... MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top. And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception. The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do. Events =/= leagues. I'd love a once every 4 years (or hell, once a year even) nationality-based tournament. But to have the main tournaments/leagues that are always being played be limited by nationality would be idiotic, no different than limiting Premier League to UK native or NBA to Americans. The biggest sports league in the world, the NFL only has Americans..just saying.
That's probably because the US is the only country that actually plays the sport. It's not the biggest in the world, it's the biggest in america.
And I'm pretty sure there's non americans too.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
Someday someone is gonna make a complete and deciding post on why closed regions is the only way to go.
I´m neither qualified to express it properly nor have the patience to attempt it.
In the meantime, we are gonna have shitty top 8 for ever regional in wcs until things change.
GO SCARLETT
Yeah, we definitely don't have enough threads of people whining about how WCS isn't region locked every time their favorite player loses. Blame it on Blizzard, it's not the players fault they lost in a 1v1 game or anything. Can't wait for more of those to crop up.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:32 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:30 Sokrates wrote:On August 12 2013 00:28 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:27 Sokrates wrote:On August 12 2013 00:25 BoZiffer wrote:On August 12 2013 00:24 Sokrates wrote:
So undeserved. Duckduck is such a mediocre player, he doesnt deserve this. His play is so stupid that nobody even thinks of this platindonk strats like in the last game. Whoa...come one now. Thats a bit harsh, no? HARSH? I tried to put it as nice as i could possible... I would say much "harsher" words, but i try to calm myself down. Sry but this "duckduck" guy is just a bad player. He is some good control, and some "nice" builds. But he doesnt have a brain he is a mindnumbing player in every MU. He doesn't have a brain? sorry man but what you're saying is rude and frankly unfounded. How about "i didnt do any dmg with my stargate 4 phönix opening, ah fuck it lets allin on 4 gates."? Did it work? It seems like you are just upset at the result. It's not Finale's fault he won. Because i so much dislike his play in every MU. Grubby won in a really nice straight up no cheese fashion against vortix with smart and good play. Duckduck just allins nearly every fucking game with premade builds against any race, he doesnt give a damn what the other player is doing. He is the definition of a buildorder protoss. Grubby is a much smarter and better player. He reacts to his opponent. Duckduck just allins no matter what. All i see in duckduck is a allinbuildorder toss. A disgrace for the protoss race. If you want to watch smart toss play i would recommend grubby or rain (at a higher level).
You clearly never watched Finale before this tournament. But you are entitled to your opinion.
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This kinda of rage is refreshing.:D It means there's a foriegner who even get deep in tournament.
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On August 12 2013 00:36 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 12 2013 00:33 FuRRie wrote:
Anyone else notice the steady clime in skill from Grubby?
Can't wait for next season allready. Yeah he's been getting better little by little Yes, his results are constantly getting better, I'm pleasantly surprised that he made it to Ro4.
Same here. I had him pegged for a quarterfinals exit as I was worried for his PvZ. Anyhow, we Grubby fans should really refrain from being so salty, he's still in the season finals after all! Congrats to DD and gogo MC!
I still probably won't watch it lol, but that's moreso to give me some time to sleep so that I can be alert for a stacked WCS NA.
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On August 12 2013 00:34 jonich0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything... MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top. And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception. The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do. the English Premier League is such a massive brand worldwide, exciting mix of talent / nationalities. imagine if all the club teams just had solely English players. hahaha that would be dire, no one would give a shit then.
Imagine if 16 teams in the Premier League would be Chinese.
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On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.
I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed. I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate. Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds. A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max. Not sure if thats what you want.
Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...
-_-
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On August 12 2013 00:34 jonich0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything... MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top. And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception. The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do. the English Premier League is such a massive brand worldwide, exciting mix of talent / nationalities. imagine if all the club teams just had solely English players. hahaha that would be dire, no one would give a shit then.
Fans would still follow their clubs. As they did for almost 100 years before the Foreign players flooded in..
Are you agreeing with awesomeapocalypse that nationalities are unimportant? Cos you are arguing that they are important, because if only Brits played in the Prem, then you think people would not follow it.
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On August 12 2013 00:39 Wildmoon wrote:
This kinda of rage is refreshing.:D It means there's a foriegner who even get deep in tournament.
Yeah, Stephano's fans got a guy to cheer for. It is beautiful.
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On August 12 2013 00:38 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:37 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:36 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 12 2013 00:34 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 12 2013 00:32 LiamBrady wrote:
Wow, this thread got derailed pretty fucking quickly Yeah the amount of camaraderie and general manner during the series was great, but as soon as the series ended it became Grubby fans who were mature enough to accept it vs. Grubby fans raging about Finale. I presume the Finale fans are just scrolling through and laughing maniacally. Yeah I am sure "all the" finale fans are just scrolling through. It was a joke, I don't pretend to know how people on TL are behaving. You were spot on with me if that makes you feel better :-D
Success! (Dragon face)
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