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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1921
On the plus side, Naniwa, Grubby and Scarlett are in the season 2 finals (oh and Welmu as well, which'll be a good laugh). That's at least one up on how many went last season.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1922
On August 12 2013 00:36 LiamBrady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME


Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything...


MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top.

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do.


Events =/= leagues. I'd love a once every 4 years (or hell, once a year even) nationality-based tournament. But to have the main tournaments/leagues that are always being played be limited by nationality would be idiotic, no different than limiting Premier League to UK native or NBA to Americans.


The biggest sports league in the world, the NFL only has Americans..just saying.

This is WCS not NFL...just saying.

Btw. pretty sure Champions League is bigger.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1923
On August 12 2013 00:36 LiamBrady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME


Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything...


MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top.

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do.


Events =/= leagues. I'd love a once every 4 years (or hell, once a year even) nationality-based tournament. But to have the main tournaments/leagues that are always being played be limited by nationality would be idiotic, no different than limiting Premier League to UK native or NBA to Americans.


The biggest sports league in the world, the NFL only has Americans..just saying.

Maybe because only Americans play that sport. Maybe...
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1924
EU doesn`t hold.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1925
On August 12 2013 00:38 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.

Works for FGC. Why not starcraft :O


Wellthe amount of cash flowing in the system will decrease with ~90% so it would be a really bad day to be progamer
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1926
two koreans decide who is the best european starcraft player. ===)
keep it deep! @zulison
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#1927
On August 12 2013 00:39 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:39 Wildmoon wrote:
This kinda of rage is refreshing.:D It means there's a foriegner who even get deep in tournament.

Yeah, Stephano's fans got a guy to cheer for. It is beautiful.

I thought they had all boarded the dayshi train after stephano.
Glorious SEA doto
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#1928
Damn. This started early. Missed everything.... except the finals. GO MC!! BOSSTOSS!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#1929
On August 12 2013 00:41 Havik_ wrote:
Damn. This started early. Missed everything.... except the finals. GO MC!! BOSSTOSS!!


It's more than 2 hours ahead of schedule. XD
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
August 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#1930
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1931
Sorry MC, I'm cheering for the doubleduck, I feel sorry for him..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1932
Seems like Europe was a good place for protoss today
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1933
On August 12 2013 00:38 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.

Works for FGC. Why not starcraft :O


Because in the FGC no one bare the EG guys and very few others can live without a secondary job.
Xian won less than 5k at EVO, that's how poor it is.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1934
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1935
On August 12 2013 00:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:41 Havik_ wrote:
Damn. This started early. Missed everything.... except the finals. GO MC!! BOSSTOSS!!


It's more than 2 hours ahead of schedule. XD


They scheduled for Hasuobs to make it to the finals ^^
Neosteel Enthusiast
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1936
Soe seems a nice person.
maru lover forever
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#1937
On August 12 2013 00:36 LiamBrady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:32 revel8 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:20 Heinsenzerg wrote:
FUCK THIS GAME


Yeah... I might say the same.. I am usually against this "quitting SC2" drama but I am getting to a point were other esports are really entertaining and they have an upper hand in that they do not have 200 introverted Koreans winning everything...


MC is like the least introverted Korean on earth, and has significantly more personality than most foreigners as well. If one were to make a list of the progamers with the most personality, he'd have to be near the top.

And the whole "people should only play in their native region" argument is stupid. It's not like Premier League only features players native to the UK, or the only basketball players in the NBA are American. No sports league worth a damn excludes worthy players based on nationality, its sort of pathetic that some people want SC2 to be the lone exception.


The two biggest sporting events in the World are the Olympics and the World Cup. Do they care about nationality? Yes, they do.


Events =/= leagues. I'd love a once every 4 years (or hell, once a year even) nationality-based tournament. But to have the main tournaments/leagues that are always being played be limited by nationality would be idiotic, no different than limiting Premier League to UK native or NBA to Americans.


The biggest sports league in the world, the NFL only has Americans..just saying.


A sport only played in the US has only Americans in the league? That is indeed quite strange. And I'm fairly sure it's not the biggest sports league, as well.
AdministratorBreak the chains
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#1938
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
So many people being upset is fully understandable, on the other hand them blaming Blizzard, Korea or playstyles is not. Duckdeok is an aggressive player and I personally enjoyed the WCS regional finals very much. PvP has become a match up that you can actually watch and thats very tense.

I was cheering for Grubby and obviously I'm a bit sad that neither Naniwa, HasuObs nor Grubby made it to the finals, but thats the life of a progamer. Now we got MC vs duckdeok which should be entertaining as well. Don't understand the hate towards Korea or duckdeok by any means. People that hate now should leave the scene, because they really are not needed.


I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.


Oh you're one of those ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS people. I see. Carry on then.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#1939
On August 12 2013 00:40 zul wrote:
two koreans decide who is the best european starcraft player. ===)


No, two Koreans decide who wins an international Starcraft tournament played out in Europe. Please learn the difference.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#1940
On August 12 2013 00:43 Incognoto wrote:
Soe seems a nice person.


Soe?
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