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Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#721
On August 09 2013 10:07 ArchangelJada wrote:
why people hating on axiom so much, Alicia did nothing wrong im sure he was trying 100%

Yeah. I didn't see the games, but I would suspect that Crank was the one whose heart wasn't 100% in it and gave up more easily (than he normally would), rather than both of them colluding beforehand for Crank to let Alicia win.
Plat Support Main #believe
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#722
On August 09 2013 10:08 The_Templar wrote:
I've never had bacon either


you live in the US and you've never had bacon? wtf?!
myk3
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria80 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#723
Make it a 2-1 at least next time, it's always nice to watch a little bit of early game micro.
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#724
On August 09 2013 10:07 ArchangelJada wrote:
why people hating on axiom so much, Alicia did nothing wrong im sure he was trying 100%


You can tell that Crank intentionally threw the game. No progamer would leave after killing so many probes in a 1 base pvp game.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#725
On August 09 2013 10:08 Apoteosis wrote:
I just tune in. What happened ? Why all this rage against Axiom ?

Crank did 2 identical builds, did good damage with both builds, and randomly GG'd out both games.
The second game he was way ahead in workers and on even footing in production in army.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#726
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#727
On August 09 2013 10:08 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:06 c0ldfusion wrote:
Think about it guys. I know they're on the same team, but this is an individual event.

There's no motivation for any one player to throw a game unless he's already eliminated. Clearly this is not the case here.

Crank is team captain and some people have commented on how Crank has been spending a lot of his time managing axiom (I have no idea if they actually know what they are talking about). If they believe that Alicia is the better player, has more need of tournament experience and has greater potential in the longer term, then it makes sense.

Genna is the one who originally said this
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:10:04
August 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#728
On August 09 2013 10:09 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:08 The_Templar wrote:
I've never had bacon either


you live in the US and you've never had bacon? wtf?!

maybe I'm a bot


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TL+ Member
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10101 Posts
August 09 2013 01:10 GMT
#729
On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8

ehy would you want the Dong out?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:11:05
August 09 2013 01:10 GMT
#730
On August 09 2013 10:08 Apoteosis wrote:
I just tune in. What happened ? Why all this rage against Axiom ?


Crank vs Alicia PvP
Crank GGs slightly pre-mature in Game 1, 3Gate vs 3 Gate.

Game 2...Crank kills like 9 probes with 3 gate pressure. Lost 2 pylons in Alicia's base but could have easily transitioned to a macro game. GG's after his pylon is about to die with even armies. Despite being way ahead.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 09 2013 01:10 GMT
#731
On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8


u r a bad bot, shame on u
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
eronica
Profile Joined October 2012
175 Posts
August 09 2013 01:10 GMT
#732
There is a benefit to trow that game

Crank might have thought that Alicia has more chance to win against Jim (which is likely, but noneless fixing match)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#733
Can we have Jim vs Jim instead of Jim vs Alicia?
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TL+ Member
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#734
Forfeiting a game should just be allowed I think. I don't think Crank did this completely on purpose but it did seem like an issue of rather having his teammate advance than himself.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#735
On August 09 2013 10:10 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8

ehy would you want the Dong out?

all robots are evil
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#736
lol Bitter just doesn't look as good in the same shirt
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#737
At least the EG vs EG games earlier in the week were good games.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#738
On August 09 2013 10:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:10 Topin wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8

ehy would you want the Dong out?

all robots are evil

I am not.
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TL+ Member
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:12:40
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#739
Unrelated, but what was the game back in the days where a zerg and a terran tried the damnest to lose to each other? It was almost 2 years ago and I believe it was a European tournament. They did not like the chance to face whoever they will meet in the next round if they would win or something, was the speculation.

Edit: I think it was played on Terminus RE.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#740
On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8

I support this post.

Also Bitter casting a PvP, lol
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