• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:28
CET 12:28
KST 20:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League73Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance? [Recap] 0-6 Defeat for Mong's Team BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8990 users

[WCS AM] RO16 Group D Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 36

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 51 Next
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 09 2013 01:05 GMT
#701
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#702
Lose on purpose? That should be punished.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#703
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


There's a massive difference.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#704
Think about it guys. I know they're on the same team, but this is an individual event.

There's no motivation for any one player to throw a game unless he's already eliminated. Clearly this is not the case here.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#705
On August 09 2013 10:04 TheFiddler wrote:
Probably wasn't liking his chance against Jim and threw game two, let Alicia try his luck.

I think game one was just an Idra GG. Poor choice, thought that he was done once he failed the attack. Game two was a whatever, all yours Alicia.

I agree with this. Still makes them look fishy though.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#706
On August 09 2013 10:04 stuchiu wrote:
Alicia won 3-0? Amazing.

No they both lost 2-0.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#707
On August 09 2013 10:05 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (11)
 
79%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
7%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
7%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season



ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#708
On August 09 2013 10:05 zeratul_jf wrote:
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this


He will doge as they always do. Fuck that team. They just murdered them selves. Pretty fucking stupid.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
SKTelecomT1Rain
Profile Joined April 2013
China17 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#709
Crank and Alicia should be banned to play any other a single WCS match!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#710
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


yes it is, what crank did is disrespectful to the viewers. forfeiting a match is completely acceptable because its the players tourney life thats on the line, he has the right to make that call.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#711
why people hating on axiom so much, Alicia did nothing wrong im sure he was trying 100%
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#712
On August 09 2013 10:05 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


the difference is with Catz/Kane its 100% confirmed match fixing. There is no other explanation. With Crank/Alicia, can you really prove it?



It isn't match fixing. Match fixing requires there to be a match to fix the result. Catz quit the tournament. Yes in theory it creates the same end, it isn't the same thing
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#713
Don't compare it to Catz, compare it to CoCa and Byun, who got banned for pulling matchfixing.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:10:33
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#714
On August 09 2013 10:06 c0ldfusion wrote:
Think about it guys. I know they're on the same team, but this is an individual event.

There's no motivation for any one player to throw a game unless he's already eliminated. Clearly this is not the case here.

Crank is team captain and some people have commented on how Crank has been spending a lot of his time managing axiom (I have no idea if they actually know what they are talking about). If they believe that Alicia is the better player, has more need of tournament experience and has greater potential in the longer term, then it makes sense.

EDIT: Actually the Catz/Kane situation proves that one may want a player to advance over a playing captain, as it was confirmed that this was exactly what happened then. Personally I don't believe either action should be accepted, but basically attempting to deceive the tournament and viewers is in my opinion much worse than straight up forfeiting.
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#715
I just tune in. What happened ? Why all this rage against Axiom ?
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#716
On August 09 2013 10:07 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


yes it is, what crank did is disrespectful to the viewers. forfeiting a match is completely acceptable because its the players tourney life thats on the line, he has the right to make that call.


well, the way i looked at catz's loss. if you're a full time player and can't even beat your own team manager, then u really dont deserve to move on.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#717
On August 09 2013 10:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:05 Popkiller wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


the difference is with Catz/Kane its 100% confirmed match fixing. There is no other explanation. With Crank/Alicia, can you really prove it?



It isn't match fixing. Match fixing requires there to be a match to fix the result. Catz quit the tournament. Yes in theory it creates the same end, it isn't the same thing


alright, true. Wrong way to word it.
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#718
nah, the first game wasn't obvious, but the second? didn't he see how many probes he killed on lowground? obvious throw, should be penalized imo; even the smile after game, Crank didn't look tilted at all
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#719
I've never had bacon either
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#720
On August 09 2013 10:05 zeratul_jf wrote:
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this


Dude, there is no benefit for throwing a match in this situation.

1. It's not like Crank is already eliminated.

2. All three players are P. It's not even a match-up thing. There no advantage gained by throwing the match.
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 51 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko170
Rex 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6402
Shuttle 6382
firebathero 2718
Rain 2477
Horang2 767
Hyuk 268
Larva 248
Soulkey 220
EffOrt 217
Soma 216
[ Show more ]
BeSt 203
Light 174
Rush 158
Mini 154
Pusan 117
JYJ 110
Mind 107
Snow 98
Zeus 86
ggaemo 72
ZerO 66
Killer 39
sorry 31
ToSsGirL 30
Movie 27
Shinee 26
Sharp 22
Sacsri 21
Creator 21
Mong 19
ZergMaN 18
Hm[arnc] 14
Bishop 13
yabsab 13
Noble 12
Terrorterran 12
Aegong 11
zelot 9
Dota 2
Gorgc15456
XcaliburYe110
Counter-Strike
dupreeh802
gobbtv111
x6flipin111
Other Games
B2W.Neo714
Pyrionflax307
crisheroes269
Livibee261
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL19995
Other Games
gamesdonequick902
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV308
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
32m
Rex0
IntoTheiNu 0
IntoTheTV X SOOP
23h 32m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 23h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.