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[WCS AM] RO16 Group D Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 36

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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 09 2013 01:05 GMT
#701
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#702
Lose on purpose? That should be punished.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#703
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


There's a massive difference.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#704
Think about it guys. I know they're on the same team, but this is an individual event.

There's no motivation for any one player to throw a game unless he's already eliminated. Clearly this is not the case here.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#705
On August 09 2013 10:04 TheFiddler wrote:
Probably wasn't liking his chance against Jim and threw game two, let Alicia try his luck.

I think game one was just an Idra GG. Poor choice, thought that he was done once he failed the attack. Game two was a whatever, all yours Alicia.

I agree with this. Still makes them look fishy though.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#706
On August 09 2013 10:04 stuchiu wrote:
Alicia won 3-0? Amazing.

No they both lost 2-0.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#707
On August 09 2013 10:05 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (11)
 
79%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
7%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
7%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season



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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 09 2013 01:06 GMT
#708
On August 09 2013 10:05 zeratul_jf wrote:
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this


He will doge as they always do. Fuck that team. They just murdered them selves. Pretty fucking stupid.
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SKTelecomT1Rain
Profile Joined April 2013
China17 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#709
Crank and Alicia should be banned to play any other a single WCS match!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#710
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


yes it is, what crank did is disrespectful to the viewers. forfeiting a match is completely acceptable because its the players tourney life thats on the line, he has the right to make that call.
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ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#711
why people hating on axiom so much, Alicia did nothing wrong im sure he was trying 100%
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#712
On August 09 2013 10:05 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


the difference is with Catz/Kane its 100% confirmed match fixing. There is no other explanation. With Crank/Alicia, can you really prove it?



It isn't match fixing. Match fixing requires there to be a match to fix the result. Catz quit the tournament. Yes in theory it creates the same end, it isn't the same thing
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#713
Don't compare it to Catz, compare it to CoCa and Byun, who got banned for pulling matchfixing.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:10:33
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#714
On August 09 2013 10:06 c0ldfusion wrote:
Think about it guys. I know they're on the same team, but this is an individual event.

There's no motivation for any one player to throw a game unless he's already eliminated. Clearly this is not the case here.

Crank is team captain and some people have commented on how Crank has been spending a lot of his time managing axiom (I have no idea if they actually know what they are talking about). If they believe that Alicia is the better player, has more need of tournament experience and has greater potential in the longer term, then it makes sense.

EDIT: Actually the Catz/Kane situation proves that one may want a player to advance over a playing captain, as it was confirmed that this was exactly what happened then. Personally I don't believe either action should be accepted, but basically attempting to deceive the tournament and viewers is in my opinion much worse than straight up forfeiting.
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#715
I just tune in. What happened ? Why all this rage against Axiom ?
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#716
On August 09 2013 10:07 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


yes it is, what crank did is disrespectful to the viewers. forfeiting a match is completely acceptable because its the players tourney life thats on the line, he has the right to make that call.


well, the way i looked at catz's loss. if you're a full time player and can't even beat your own team manager, then u really dont deserve to move on.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#717
On August 09 2013 10:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:05 Popkiller wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:04 eronica wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 eronica wrote:
Losing on purpose against teammate, yeah you saw it...... ROOTCatz case again



Umm didn't Catz straight up forfeit to Kane? That's significantly different


No difference, Crank basicly forfait his will to win, same as probe rushing or playing with one hand....


the difference is with Catz/Kane its 100% confirmed match fixing. There is no other explanation. With Crank/Alicia, can you really prove it?



It isn't match fixing. Match fixing requires there to be a match to fix the result. Catz quit the tournament. Yes in theory it creates the same end, it isn't the same thing


alright, true. Wrong way to word it.
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#718
nah, the first game wasn't obvious, but the second? didn't he see how many probes he killed on lowground? obvious throw, should be penalized imo; even the smile after game, Crank didn't look tilted at all
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#719
I've never had bacon either
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 01:08 GMT
#720
On August 09 2013 10:05 zeratul_jf wrote:
I wanna hear what TB has to say about this


Dude, there is no benefit for throwing a match in this situation.

1. It's not like Crank is already eliminated.

2. All three players are P. It's not even a match-up thing. There no advantage gained by throwing the match.
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