On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
I do understand what you are saying. SC shows a true sports spirit, higher, faster and stronger. To be the best, you literally have to go beyond humanly possible. While Dota and Lol require tons of skills, but they are basically a sense of game strategy and team working, not everyone can achieve that though. But it can never reach the true spirit of an RTS player.
On August 10 2013 20:27 RiZu wrote: Maru winning is good. EU is probably a protoss champion and NA obviously Jaedong just like last season.
? Boss, confusion
Yeah, what I wanted to say was having champions of each races like last season WCS, Maru for WCS KR, Protoss for WCS EU and Zerg for WCS NA(JAEDONG FIGHTING)
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
Its simple. Dota2 is the more fun game and its free to play, so the player base is 10x that of sc2 and will grow even bigger. A percentage of Gamers wants to see the best at their game compete, so they tune in to tournaments and streams. Bigger playerbase means bigger streamnumbers. Besides that, Blizzard is a company who treats their customers like shit, while Valve gives the impression to care.
On August 10 2013 20:27 RiZu wrote: Maru winning is good. EU is probably a protoss champion and NA obviously Jaedong just like last season.
? Boss, confusion
Yeah, what I wanted to say was having champions of each races like last season WCS, Maru for WCS KR, Protoss for WCS EU and Zerg for WCS NA(JAEDONG FIGHTING)
Oh I see.
True, there's nobody in EU who could withstand the might of FINALE. Watch out for the NA Ro8 though, Jaedong has never taken a map off Jim.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
Its simple. Dota2 is the more fun game and its free to play, so the player base is 10x that of sc2 and will grow even bigger. A percentage of Gamers wants to see the best at their game compete, so they tune in to tournaments and streams. Bigger playerbase means bigger streamnumbers. Besides that, Blizzard is a company who treats their customers like shit, while Valve gives the impression to care.
If you're going to use that logic then both Dota and SC2 are doomed. LoL and WoT will conquer both.
They're both free and even easier to play than either game.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
After this comment you have 0 idea about dota.
Dota is almost 100x more popular and interesting to watch and the players are way more likeable than the sc2 players, I mean just look at people like chuan etc it just means so much if they win.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
SC2 is not a game for majority. The "average" population of global gamers are mentally incapable of even following an SC2 stream due to prevailing ADD and lack of basic numeracy. Watching SC2 requires quite a bit of calculations, otherwise the watcher will feel like an idiot at a science fair lectured by Tasteless and Artosis.
There are several hundred thousand watching SC2 on Korean TV and Korean streams, so they get their money, don't worry.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
Its simple. Dota2 is the more fun game and its free to play, so the player base is 10x that of sc2 and will grow even bigger. A percentage of Gamers wants to see the best at their game compete, so they tune in to tournaments and streams. Bigger playerbase means bigger streamnumbers. Besides that, Blizzard is a company who treats their customers like shit, while Valve gives the impression to care.
If you're going to use that logic then both Dota and SC2 are doomed. LoL and WoT will conquer both.
They're both free and even easier to play than either game.
I did not say easier to play, i said more fun to play. And WoT is the most boring game to spectate, so thats not really good for their stream numbers.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
Its simple. Dota2 is the more fun game and its free to play, so the player base is 10x that of sc2 and will grow even bigger. A percentage of Gamers wants to see the best at their game compete, so they tune in to tournaments and streams. Bigger playerbase means bigger streamnumbers. Besides that, Blizzard is a company who treats their customers like shit, while Valve gives the impression to care.
If you're going to use that logic then both Dota and SC2 are doomed. LoL and WoT will conquer both.
They're both free and even easier to play than either game.
I'm not into Dota, but what makes it harder to play than LoL? It's offtopic, but I'm interested to find out.
On August 10 2013 20:27 RiZu wrote: Maru winning is good. EU is probably a protoss champion and NA obviously Jaedong just like last season.
? Boss, confusion
Yeah, what I wanted to say was having champions of each races like last season WCS, Maru for WCS KR, Protoss for WCS EU and Zerg for WCS NA(JAEDONG FIGHTING)
I was hoping that we would have Protoss sweep all three regions and then take the S2 finals, but I like your idea better.
On August 10 2013 20:20 OfficeBrahzz wrote: truly makes me angry... this MASSIVELY incredible skill required game...
.. so hard to be the best at this game... takes so much mental fortitude sacrifice to be this good at sc2...
these dang dota players like dendi getting 150,000 stream watchers earlier today
maru deserves 300,000 stream watchers
maru could easily in about 5-6 weeks completely learn dota and perform at dendi's level.
dendi would never ever achieve anything near a ro16 in a korean starleague even with years of practice
im sure LoL / Dota players practice alot and that too takes sacrifice
i guess my point is... being good in sc2 shows i believe some other essence of the mind... a type of mental fortitude... you can practice for years and never get this good... its truly just an essence .... maybe a "god given skill" that you are simply born with and you can never train and i guess if you view it in that regard i guess its not as "impressive" in that regard because it would be like watching a 6foot dude beat up a 4feet tall dude... the 6foot guy was simply born with his natural innate abilities... no amount of training would allow the 4foot dude to win the fight... so i dont know i guess when i view it that way my belief that sc2 is a showing / competition of "something more" than just practice time might really downplay the greatness of winning a OSL because really your just winning with your innate natural talents that no one can train to achieve. Of course you need to train harder than everyone else and combine that training with your god given talent to win, i guess my point was someone without the god given talent will never be able to beat someone with the god given talent who trains alot, no matter how much the person without the god given talent tries.
i dont know what the hell im saying lol... but dayum its fun to watch
too bad more people dont realize the impressiveness of it
i and 30,000 ppl just saw a boy wonder become champion of a incredible test of mental power....
but 150,000 people watched dendi throw hooks with pudge earlier today
but i guess i shouldnt be so sad... i think the last MLG sc2 numbers topped out at 100,000 for some of the high profile games so... i guess maybe im overreacting a little everyone is asleep now
Its simple. Dota2 is the more fun game and its free to play, so the player base is 10x that of sc2 and will grow even bigger. A percentage of Gamers wants to see the best at their game compete, so they tune in to tournaments and streams. Bigger playerbase means bigger streamnumbers. Besides that, Blizzard is a company who treats their customers like shit, while Valve gives the impression to care.
If you're going to use that logic then both Dota and SC2 are doomed. LoL and WoT will conquer both.
They're both free and even easier to play than either game.
I'm not into Dota, but what makes it harder to play than LoL? It's offtopic, but I'm interested to find out.
DOTA is a much more complicated game. It's really easy to notice when you just play the two of them a little bit. Dota has a ton more going on and has a far higher individual skill cap.
I'd be really bad at explaining it well though since I don't really play either game often at all.
Nice to have a Terran champion after such a long time, too bad I missed the finals. Maybe one of these days GOM/OGN will be willing to do rebroadcasts at a reasonable time for people living all the way over here in NA. Or just be nice and offer free VODs.
On August 10 2013 20:27 RiZu wrote: Maru winning is good. EU is probably a protoss champion and NA obviously Jaedong just like last season.
? Boss, confusion
Yeah, what I wanted to say was having champions of each races like last season WCS, Maru for WCS KR, Protoss for WCS EU and Zerg for WCS NA(JAEDONG FIGHTING)
I was hoping that we would have Protoss sweep all three regions and then take the S2 finals, but I like your idea better.
I was thinking this would be the case again, but with Jaedong drawing JIM in the ro8...we really may not have any Zerg for the regionals.
Though Vortix might also have a shot from EU with so much ZvP in his ro8. MMA is unlikely to make it far, TvP has always been his worst.
On August 10 2013 20:27 RiZu wrote: Maru winning is good. EU is probably a protoss champion and NA obviously Jaedong just like last season.
? Boss, confusion
Yeah, what I wanted to say was having champions of each races like last season WCS, Maru for WCS KR, Protoss for WCS EU and Zerg for WCS NA(JAEDONG FIGHTING)
I was hoping that we would have Protoss sweep all three regions and then take the S2 finals, but I like your idea better.
I was thinking this would be the case again, but with Jaedong drawing JIM in the ro8...we really may not have any Zerg for the regionals.
Though Vortix might also have a shot from EU with so much ZvP in his ro8. MMA is unlikely to make it far, TvP has always been his worst.
If MMA plays anything like he did against Naniwa, he won't take a map off HasuObs. If finale beats Naniwa then he murders Vortix I think, his PvZ has always been super sharp and deadly. And then we finally (huehue) get to see finale vs HasuObs, the final (huehuehue) we deserve
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