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Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
August 01 2013 18:13 GMT
#2441
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.

Rain is the Proleague protoss MVP and in another OSL finals, that's not the definition of inconsistent.
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
August 01 2013 18:18 GMT
#2442
On August 02 2013 01:12 patchpotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 23:45 Sevre wrote:
So does anyone have a gif of Rain flashing his OSL Champion badge at Bomber at the end of that?

[image loading]

Lol! Best aha
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#2443
On August 02 2013 03:13 Aserrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.

Rain is the Proleague protoss MVP and in another OSL finals, that's not the definition of inconsistent.


Now whenever he doesn't make top four in a tournament people will say that he's in a slump.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:31:01
August 01 2013 18:30 GMT
#2444
On August 02 2013 00:56 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:32 Assirra wrote:
On August 01 2013 20:29 sharkie wrote:
why is everyone saying Rain won because of boombers law? isnt that unfair towards Rain who played his very best here

I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Rain when they talk about bombers law tough.


Rain was a substantial favorite going into this match, even beating Bomber earlier this OSL. Why even bring up "Bomber's law"? He was outplayed by a superior player, call it for what it is.


Lol @ people not understanding Bomber's Law and think that bringing it up is trying to take away from Rain

Bomber's Law is about the hype behind Bomber and how Bomber loses underwhelmingly after he massively gets everyone's hopes up. His opponent's skill level is irrelevant.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:37:36
August 01 2013 18:37 GMT
#2445
On August 02 2013 03:12 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:07 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.


Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.

Except for the PL playoffs but he's pretty solid everywhere else.

On the other hand you can't call his playoff performance "inconsistent," given the fact that he consistently lost. :S


Look at his ace match stats. It goes way beyond his playoff performance man. He either hauls ass or derps. No player has been in more sudden death positions as Rain yet when its all on the line he is less than 50%. That isn't a good statistic. As much as I like Rain, he hasn't been close to as dominant as people make him out to be. He just sort of slided into this OSL Final which is quite something else. Perhaps the Protoss MVP is warranted when you've played a crap ton of games for your team. I honestly think he could do better in PL (remember not just talking about playoffs). His numbers really weren't that great and it's as if he coasted most of the time.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11109 Posts
August 01 2013 18:37 GMT
#2446
So guys. Not quite there but... Rain the new Stork/Fantasy/Silver King?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#2447
On August 02 2013 03:37 Sabu113 wrote:
So guys. Not quite there but... Rain the new Stork/Fantasy/Silver King?


Rain already has a OSL win, as well as WCS Asia last year. He doesn't have any silver medals.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 01 2013 18:40 GMT
#2448
On August 02 2013 03:38 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:37 Sabu113 wrote:
So guys. Not quite there but... Rain the new Stork/Fantasy/Silver King?


Rain already has a OSL win, as well as WCS Asia last year. He doesn't have any silver medals.



He's no MarineKing that's for sure!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 01 2013 19:32 GMT
#2449
;(
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 01 2013 19:52 GMT
#2450
Rain, our last skt hope. How is Maru's PvT btw?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27412 Posts
August 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#2451
Bomber tried to include Bomber's law in his builds, smart attempt to break the cycle.

Going mech game 2 was an attempt to force down expectations, to trick the community into thinking his brain had completely broken and thus lowering expectations down to the floor. With these lowered expectations, Bomber's theory was that Bomber's Law could no longer apply.

Unfortunately this plan was scuppered from an unlikely source. A humble TeamLiquid poster called Wintex could not have his belief shattered, in even the darkest times, he would ALWAYS BELIEVE. On being asked 'would you bet your life in Bomber's triumph:

'there's only one person that's stupid enough to vote yes, and he's here.'

It was at this stage that I believe that the cunning ploy of Bomber failed to break the Law™
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 01 2013 20:26 GMT
#2452
The mech build would have worked very well if rain didnt kill 5000 scvs with storm drops
I come in for the scraps
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#2453
On August 02 2013 04:52 trifecta wrote:
Rain, our last skt hope. How is Maru's PvT btw?


I hardly think Maru's offracing is relevant to the finals

+ Show Spoiler +
I know what you meant. Last I thought about it, I wouldn't have rated him above Rain in the match-up, but with how he dismantled Innovation it seems like he might have learned how to prepare really well. His micro is top notch and I'm sure he can bring a few builds that'll make Rain sweat.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#2454
On August 01 2013 20:21 aupstar wrote:
Prediction: (P)Rain wins OSL.

Reason: (P)Rain has the whole of the SKT1 programming engine behind him which includes (T)FanTaSy and (P)PartinG. Not to mention there is no Proleague to practice for. Every move that (T)Maru Has ever made in a game will be analysed and all his weaknesses will be determined and exploited.

(P)Rain will win!


you underestimate Prime
rip prime
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
August 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#2455
Maru got this ez
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
August 01 2013 21:23 GMT
#2456
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423334

Interview is now up!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#2457
On August 02 2013 06:23 Seeker wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423334

Interview is now up!


You're doing God's work Seeker.
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
August 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#2458
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 09:07:29
August 02 2013 08:55 GMT
#2459
On August 01 2013 19:42 boxerfred wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:39 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Rain is playing beautiful starcraft


Yeah, beautiful starcraft it is. Losing the only game that was head-to-head, then receiving 2.5 throws from bomber, then go 0.5 games aggressive play. Where was that beautiful starcraft? Those games were short, and kind of one-sided apart from G1 and G3. If you call that beautiful starcraft, I have to interfere! Beautiful starcraft is a 40min-freaking-macro-drop-harass-base-snipes-huge-trades-fancy-moves battle. I remember a HerO vs. Leenock series on Entombed Valley, back in WoL.

I bet that none of the OSL games played so far except maybe one or some of the Maru vs. Symbol games will make it to the "Top50 Games of HotS"-Thread, once LotV comes out.



Please dont try to tell me how to feel and try to change my definition of beautiful starcraft.

Just because something is intertaining doesnt mean its beautiful, usually when matches are back and forth its because the players make a lot of mistakes, try to find those kind of mistakes in rains openings and midgame play, its impossible, he doesnt let opponents make a comeback in a game.

Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 10:26:31
August 02 2013 10:25 GMT
#2460
On August 02 2013 17:55 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:42 boxerfred wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:39 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Rain is playing beautiful starcraft


Yeah, beautiful starcraft it is. Losing the only game that was head-to-head, then receiving 2.5 throws from bomber, then go 0.5 games aggressive play. Where was that beautiful starcraft? Those games were short, and kind of one-sided apart from G1 and G3. If you call that beautiful starcraft, I have to interfere! Beautiful starcraft is a 40min-freaking-macro-drop-harass-base-snipes-huge-trades-fancy-moves battle. I remember a HerO vs. Leenock series on Entombed Valley, back in WoL.

I bet that none of the OSL games played so far except maybe one or some of the Maru vs. Symbol games will make it to the "Top50 Games of HotS"-Thread, once LotV comes out.



Please dont try to tell me how to feel and try to change my definition of beautiful starcraft.

Just because something is intertaining doesnt mean its beautiful, usually when matches are back and forth its because the players make a lot of mistakes, try to find those kind of mistakes in rains openings and midgame play, its impossible, he doesnt let opponents make a comeback in a game.


I can only agree with you sir.
"The games wasnt good because it was one sided"... wait... it was one sided because Rain made it one sided with his beautifull play on this match.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
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