EDIT: Didn't want to tack on another post, but thank you for the support everyone. Glad you enjoyed my casting with Whiplash, it would be an honor to be part of more sc2 events!
On August 01 2013 20:29 sharkie wrote: why is everyone saying Rain won because of boombers law? isnt that unfair towards Rain who played his very best here
I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Rain when they talk about bombers law tough.
Rain was a substantial favorite going into this match, even beating Bomber earlier this OSL. Why even bring up "Bomber's law"? He was outplayed by a superior player, call it for what it is.
On August 01 2013 20:29 sharkie wrote: why is everyone saying Rain won because of boombers law? isnt that unfair towards Rain who played his very best here
I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Rain when they talk about bombers law tough.
Rain was a substantial favorite going into this match, even beating Bomber earlier this OSL. Why even bring up "Bomber's law"? He was outplayed by a superior player, call it for what it is.
It's just a joke based on Bomber's inconsistent play, nothing harmful about it.
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.
Lose 2 series in your past 10, and you're doing "pretty poorly".
Just goes to show you how good Innovation is, that if he's not annihilating everyone as usual people think he's slumping.
[QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:08 Rhaegal wrote: [QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:05 SAFenix wrote: [QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: [QUOTE]On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world[/QUOTE]
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.[/QUOTE] INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there. [/QUOTE]
Lose 2 series in your past 10, and you're doing "pretty poorly".
Just goes to show you how good Innovation is, that if he's not annihilating everyone as usual people think he's slumping.
[url=http://www.aligulac.com/players/48-INnoVation/]http://www.aligulac.com/players/48-INnoVation/[/url] Sorry, I meant INnoVation's been doing poorly for him. I still agree he's probably the best player still, I was just arguing that Rain is pretty consistent
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.
I am a Rain fan and an SKT fan as well, and I really like seeing rain's style of Protoss but...what?
EDIT: Didn't want to tack on another post, but thank you for the support everyone. Glad you enjoyed my casting with Whiplash, it would be an honor to be part of more sc2 events!
Much appreciated, was fun to see different faces (:
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.
Are you crazy? Innovation has finished 2nd, 1st and 3rd in the last 3 WCS events and was a monster in the Pro League playoffs for STX. He doesn't win everything all the time because Starcraft (both Brood War and Sc2 contrary to popular belief) is extremely random and anyone can beat anyone on the day all the time, but as far as the game goes Innovation is the most consistent guy out there throughout HOTS by some distance.
Rain didn't even make the finals of the last WCS.
People probably whined about this yesterday too, but it really puts me off watching this game with how random/unpredictable it is.
I'm preemptively mad at all the cheeses and all ins maru will try against him in the finals though This was the last time I enjoyed seeing a worker pull:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote: maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?
I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything
I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.
In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3
rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D
By. clan greatest ever? Flash (more championships than I can count) Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say) Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs) Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)
Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks
I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)
Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements
On August 01 2013 19:47 opterown wrote: wow maru on BW?!
He all killed a middle school team once when he was in elementary school
yeah i know but i didn't know he was on kespa
On August 01 2013 19:50 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote: maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?
I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything
I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.
In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3
rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D
By. clan greatest ever? Flash (more championships than I can count) Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say) Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs) Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)
Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks
I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)
Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements
n.Die and [shield] were pretty strong too... It's a shame that they don't keep those tags anymore.
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.
Do you even watch pro league? He's been pretty damn inconsistent in the last couple of rounds and when it's all on the line and SKT goes to him? He's not even 50% man in his Ace Matches.
On August 01 2013 19:47 opterown wrote: wow maru on BW?!
He all killed a middle school team once when he was in elementary school
yeah i know but i didn't know he was on kespa
On August 01 2013 19:50 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote: maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?
I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything
I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.
In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3
rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D
By. clan greatest ever? Flash (more championships than I can count) Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say) Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs) Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)
Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks
I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)
Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements
PuMa was never scary. There were quite a number of great guilds like the other guy mentioned and he only listed a few and all of those guilds were relatively Neo lol.
Rain fuck yea!! Great series. Best PvT series in a while. Rain just played his style really well. Nothing else to say really. He didn't make many mistakes, but forced Bomber to make mistakes of his own. Maru doesn't stand a chance!
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.
Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world
There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.
Except for the PL playoffs but he's pretty solid everywhere else.
On the other hand you can't call his playoff performance "inconsistent," given the fact that he consistently lost. :S