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Chobra
Profile Joined June 2013
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 15:54:50
August 01 2013 15:54 GMT
#2421
On August 01 2013 21:18 Aunvilgod wrote:
could someone link me the chobra interview, I can't find it.


the interview is edited separately along with matches at twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile

I know it's a pain to search through VODs on twitch, so here is the interview specifically http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/c/2673785

enjoy!

EDIT: Didn't want to tack on another post, but thank you for the support everyone. Glad you enjoyed my casting with Whiplash, it would be an honor to be part of more sc2 events!
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 01 2013 15:56 GMT
#2422
On August 01 2013 20:32 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:29 sharkie wrote:
why is everyone saying Rain won because of boombers law? isnt that unfair towards Rain who played his very best here

I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Rain when they talk about bombers law tough.


Rain was a substantial favorite going into this match, even beating Bomber earlier this OSL. Why even bring up "Bomber's law"? He was outplayed by a superior player, call it for what it is.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 01 2013 15:59 GMT
#2423
On August 02 2013 00:56 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:32 Assirra wrote:
On August 01 2013 20:29 sharkie wrote:
why is everyone saying Rain won because of boombers law? isnt that unfair towards Rain who played his very best here

I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Rain when they talk about bombers law tough.


Rain was a substantial favorite going into this match, even beating Bomber earlier this OSL. Why even bring up "Bomber's law"? He was outplayed by a superior player, call it for what it is.

It's just a joke based on Bomber's inconsistent play, nothing harmful about it.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
August 01 2013 16:04 GMT
#2424
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
August 01 2013 16:05 GMT
#2425
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.

INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#2426
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.


Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:09:28
August 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#2427
On August 02 2013 01:05 SAFenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.

INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.



Lose 2 series in your past 10, and you're doing "pretty poorly".

Just goes to show you how good Innovation is, that if he's not annihilating everyone as usual people think he's slumping.

http://www.aligulac.com/players/48-INnoVation/



edit: sorry, 2 series in his past 16
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
patchpotato
Profile Joined June 2013
22 Posts
August 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#2428
On August 01 2013 23:45 Sevre wrote:
So does anyone have a gif of Rain flashing his OSL Champion badge at Bomber at the end of that?

[image loading]
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:24:45
August 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#2429
[QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:08 Rhaegal wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:05 SAFenix wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world[/QUOTE]

There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.[/QUOTE]
INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there. [/QUOTE]


Lose 2 series in your past 10, and you're doing "pretty poorly".

Just goes to show you how good Innovation is, that if he's not annihilating everyone as usual people think he's slumping.

[url=http://www.aligulac.com/players/48-INnoVation/]http://www.aligulac.com/players/48-INnoVation/[/url]
Sorry, I meant INnoVation's been doing poorly for him. I still agree he's probably the best player still, I was just arguing that Rain is pretty consistent
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 01 2013 16:18 GMT
#2430
On August 02 2013 01:05 SAFenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.

INnoVation's been doing pretty poorly, and Rain is probably one of the most consistent players out there.

I am a Rain fan and an SKT fan as well, and I really like seeing rain's style of Protoss but...what?
Liquid | SKT
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
August 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#2431
On August 02 2013 00:54 Chobra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:18 Aunvilgod wrote:
could someone link me the chobra interview, I can't find it.


the interview is edited separately along with matches at twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile

I know it's a pain to search through VODs on twitch, so here is the interview specifically http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/c/2673785

enjoy!

EDIT: Didn't want to tack on another post, but thank you for the support everyone. Glad you enjoyed my casting with Whiplash, it would be an honor to be part of more sc2 events!


Much appreciated, was fun to see different faces (:
Cute
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:24:14
August 01 2013 16:23 GMT
#2432
FIONN WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
edit: thats ok i still like rain :3
$O$ | soO
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:35:58
August 01 2013 16:34 GMT
#2433
On August 02 2013 01:07 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.


Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.


Are you crazy? Innovation has finished 2nd, 1st and 3rd in the last 3 WCS events and was a monster in the Pro League playoffs for STX. He doesn't win everything all the time because Starcraft (both Brood War and Sc2 contrary to popular belief) is extremely random and anyone can beat anyone on the day all the time, but as far as the game goes Innovation is the most consistent guy out there throughout HOTS by some distance.

Rain didn't even make the finals of the last WCS.

People probably whined about this yesterday too, but it really puts me off watching this game with how random/unpredictable it is.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
August 01 2013 16:39 GMT
#2434
Woot Rain!

I'm preemptively mad at all the cheeses and all ins maru will try against him in the finals though
This was the last time I enjoyed seeing a worker pull:

"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:59:39
August 01 2013 16:53 GMT
#2435
On August 01 2013 20:08 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:49 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 opterown wrote:
wow maru on BW?!

He all killed a middle school team once when he was in elementary school

yeah i know but i didn't know he was on kespa


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:50 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote:
maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?


I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything


I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.

In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3

rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D


By. clan greatest ever?
Flash (more championships than I can count)
Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say)
Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs)
Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)

Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks

I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)

Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
August 01 2013 17:13 GMT
#2436
On August 02 2013 01:53 bludragen88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:08 Ammanas wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:49 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 opterown wrote:
wow maru on BW?!

He all killed a middle school team once when he was in elementary school

yeah i know but i didn't know he was on kespa


On August 01 2013 19:50 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote:
maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?


I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything


I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.

In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3

rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D


By. clan greatest ever?
Flash (more championships than I can count)
Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say)
Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs)
Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)

Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks

I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)

Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements

n.Die and [shield] were pretty strong too... It's a shame that they don't keep those tags anymore.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 17:45:38
August 01 2013 17:32 GMT
#2437
On August 02 2013 01:07 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.


Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.


Do you even watch pro league? He's been pretty damn inconsistent in the last couple of rounds and when it's all on the line and SKT goes to him? He's not even 50% man in his Ace Matches.

On August 02 2013 01:53 bludragen88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:08 Ammanas wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:49 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 opterown wrote:
wow maru on BW?!

He all killed a middle school team once when he was in elementary school

yeah i know but i didn't know he was on kespa


On August 01 2013 19:50 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:47 Paljas wrote:
maru played on skt? as a 11 year old one or what?


I really doubt he was on SKT, but I guess I don't know anything


I am pretty sure he meant they were together on the by clan, not SKT T1.

In other news, JangBi so cute as always <3

rofl @ those forcefields by GoRush :D


By. clan greatest ever?
Flash (more championships than I can count)
Fantasy (1 OSL but 4 silvers is better than most people can say)
Rain (1 and maybe soon 2 OSLs)
Puma (For a time one of the scariest terrans in the world, multiple championships)

Then tons of solid proleague regulars (at various points) like Ty, Hydra, Snow, Barracks

I may even be forgetting some people (like Maru, if that's where they were on the same team together), but the first 4 alone is enough to rival any other amateur clan before the very very beginning of BW)

Edit: I guess gm can give them a run for their money (they even had MC), but I'm torn on whether to count savior's achievements


PuMa was never scary. There were quite a number of great guilds like the other guy mentioned and he only listed a few and all of those guilds were relatively Neo lol.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 01 2013 17:41 GMT
#2438
Rain fuck yea!! Great series. Best PvT series in a while. Rain just played his style really well. Nothing else to say really. He didn't make many mistakes, but forced Bomber to make mistakes of his own. Maru doesn't stand a chance!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
August 01 2013 17:52 GMT
#2439
ahh thank you rain thank youu
dumchu
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#2440
On August 02 2013 01:07 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 02 2013 00:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I really enjoy Rain's style. Consistently macro oriented, but not in a Turtley way--he just gets exactly the right amount of defense to hold off most harassment, then mixes in some counter harassment of his own while adding more and more basis. He rarely goes for many Colossus, preferring to tech quickly to storm. He's very methodical, very stable, and consistently makes good decisions and backs them up with excellent mechanics. He waits for the right moment for a favorable engagement, then perfectly controls his army, then backs off and consolidates his lead even further.

Its such a different style from a "go allin at the drop of a hat" type MC or PartinG style aggressive Toss, but I feel that it's also way more stable and less coinflippy. Even at his most dominant, MC could be streaky just due to the volatility of his style. Whereas Rain is just so, so solid--only First comes close, but Rain is just better. If he wins this OSL, he'll have a well-deserved claim to being the best player in the world


There's no way Rain is ahead of Innovation right now. Rain's been super inconsistent for ages now.


Innovation doesn't look at strong these days, and "inconsistent" is not a term I would ever associate with Rain.

Except for the PL playoffs but he's pretty solid everywhere else.

On the other hand you can't call his playoff performance "inconsistent," given the fact that he consistently lost. :S
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