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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 25 2013 05:38 GMT
#221
On July 25 2013 14:37 Ace Frehley wrote:
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On July 25 2013 14:32 Rhaegal wrote:
It's not often you see Losira get outmultitasked. Dude's one of the fastest players in the world. Quite impressive from Reality.

maybe his crazy apm is just spam... :/


Na, if you've ever seen his stream you'll know his speed is on another level than even most Korean pros.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:39 GMT
#222
On July 25 2013 14:37 graNite wrote:
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On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

No more lucky hits and total imbaness.


Zergs seems to have problems at the highset elvel of play against this 4M rallypush, why dont they get a few defensive swarmhosts?


No lucky hits but players would be able to manual target the clumps, resulting in bigger damage assuming they have the mechanics.

I think this is worth testing
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:39 GMT
#223
On July 25 2013 14:37 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

No more lucky hits and total imbaness.


Zergs seems to have problems at the highset elvel of play against this 4M rallypush, why dont they get a few defensive swarmhosts?

Not enough gas to get muta/ling/bling + infestation pit + upgrade + swarmhosts in time for them to be useful.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#224
Manual fire widow mines would make microing against widow mines useless. Would actually make them really OP in the hands of a good player.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:41:03
July 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#225
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#226
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?


The few foreign Terrans that were left would disappear. Players like Innovation and Flash would ascend even higher.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12530 Posts
July 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#227
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?


Terrans would feel even more that their race takes more skill, and bash it in our face constantly.

So, in that regard, not very much, now that I think about it.
No will to live, no wish to die
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 25 2013 05:40 GMT
#228
On July 25 2013 14:38 lichter wrote:
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On July 25 2013 14:36 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

Innovation would be the only person on the planet able to play that style of tvz


Potential for huge damage if you have the micro and multitasking. Sure fire on baneling clumps. No luck involved, all skill. Makes micro players better, makes worse players even worse.


Lol. I don't think reality won because of auto-firing mines.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:42:20
July 25 2013 05:41 GMT
#229
On July 25 2013 14:37 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

No more lucky hits and total imbaness.


Zergs seems to have problems at the highset elvel of play against this 4M rallypush, why dont they get a few defensive swarmhosts?


Assuming you get 2 like Sanae did, it costs about 500/300 in resources. There is also no guarantee that they will set off the mines if you're playing someone like Innovation/Maru (both players notorious for burrow/unburrow micro). And that 500 gas could be the spire + 3 mutas or a large pack of banelings. One gives you a better defensive option against drops. The other gives you a better fighting force and counter attack option. Resource for resource cost, Baneling/Spire is superior in most ways.

The only successful game I've seen a Zerg do SH v Bio is Zenio vs Cure on Newkirk.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 25 2013 05:42 GMT
#230
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:43 GMT
#231
On July 25 2013 14:40 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:38 lichter wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:36 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

Innovation would be the only person on the planet able to play that style of tvz


Potential for huge damage if you have the micro and multitasking. Sure fire on baneling clumps. No luck involved, all skill. Makes micro players better, makes worse players even worse.


Lol. I don't think reality won because of auto-firing mines.


I didn't say he did. Reality deserved that win, he has great TvZ. I am just thinking aloud because a lot of people complain that mines "don't take skill" even though they are difficult to use effectively.
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 25 2013 05:44 GMT
#232
TvZ is really boring these days, MMMM rally push all day. TvT best MU.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
July 25 2013 05:44 GMT
#233
The legendary Polt Hellbat/Marauder Stim timing push.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
July 25 2013 05:44 GMT
#234
I bet TRUE is glad he was convinced to not retire by Team 8 (probably because of a salary increase after Team 8 picked up a new sponsor), because now he is in Code S...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 25 2013 05:44 GMT
#235
Losira is shitting it up D;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 25 2013 05:44 GMT
#236
Another game Losira loses to overdroning?
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 25 2013 05:45 GMT
#237
Reality didn't bother changing his builds with the patch, it seems fine still.
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:46:16
July 25 2013 05:46 GMT
#238
On July 25 2013 14:44 painkilla wrote:
TvZ is really boring these days, MMMM rally push all day. TvT best MU.


Not really, Kangho is just historically pretty weak at zvt, watch Soulkey vs Innovation game 1 of the OSL. Love TvT too though.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:46 GMT
#239
Whenever I did hellbat marauder I always got crushed
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2013 05:47 GMT
#240
On July 25 2013 14:46 lichter wrote:
Whenever I did hellbat marauder I always got crushed


You must believe.
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