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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...  In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. There's this dude called Innovation. What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx?
His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:24 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:24 lichter wrote:
People who consider Curious definitely better than sOs need to have their ears stuffed with camel hair This thread is way too aggressive for me.
everyone is so mad these days
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On July 25 2013 14:25 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:24 bittman wrote:On July 25 2013 14:24 lichter wrote:
People who consider Curious definitely better than sOs need to have their ears stuffed with camel hair This thread is way too aggressive for me. Almost as aggressive as MC killing Shuttle.
Wow man spoilers!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game. It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.
Real Time Strategy
Strategy
If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution
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On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?
Um you mean the world where was in the semi-finals of the last GSL and the finals of the WCS for that GSL season? Cause I don't even know where the hell Curious was then, I think he made Ro8 in that GSL though.
Oh yeah sOs also that Asian martial arts games thing.
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Reality didn't get the memo on hellbat drops I guess.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game. It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill. Real Time Strategy Strategy If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution
If you're Norwegian, play both.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:27 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game. It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill. Real Time Strategy Strategy If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution If you're Norwegian, play both.
At the same time.
Hand APM + Foot APM so gosu
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On July 25 2013 14:26 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. There's this dude called Innovation. What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx? His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.
That's what I said, not including tvz there isn't a standard build that accounts for everything 
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On July 25 2013 14:24 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Unless I missed somthing curious has no relevant results this year. Certainly nothing compared to the WCS results of sOs.
He made Ro4 in 2013 GSL Season 1... He's made a result just as good as sOs' best GSL result.
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Hey Kangho you forgot the roaches.
Or is he actually going to play this out in macro style? :O
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On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game. It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.
I think you're actually just huge fanboy of certain players and so make up reasons for them losing.
Also potential Esf fanboy. Further analysis required for confirmation.
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On July 25 2013 14:26 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. There's this dude called Innovation. What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx? His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.
Oh wow I missed a word sorry about the confusion
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On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything. It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game. It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.
Unfortunately, StarCraft is not such a static and unchanging game as you wish it would be. The whole dynamic of cheeses, unorthodox plays and "weird strategies and tech switches" applies in a game designed for out-thinking and out-playing your opponent in a massive variety of ways. Sure we have our mechanical monsters like Curious, but based off of results, sOs has been better lately, and thus he can be seen as the better player, so being a player like sOs does not determine how "good" you are as a player.
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That was underwhelming lol
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Hahaha Losira what was that
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losira picked the worst part of that wall to use the banes. and yes cost inefficient, blah blah
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On July 25 2013 14:28 Elite_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 14:24 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S... In what world is Curious better than sOs? This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player? Unless I missed somthing curious has no relevant results this year. Certainly nothing compared to the WCS results of sOs. He made Ro4 in 2013 GSL Season 1... He's made a result just as good as sOs' best result.
That was in WoL and a tournament that ended four months ago. And 4th place isn't quite as good as second.
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EPT
