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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2013 05:26 GMT
#181
On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.


There's this dude called Innovation.

What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx?


His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 25 2013 05:26 GMT
#182
On July 25 2013 14:24 bittman wrote:
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On July 25 2013 14:24 lichter wrote:
People who consider Curious definitely better than sOs need to have their ears stuffed with camel hair


This thread is way too aggressive for me.

everyone is so mad these days
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 25 2013 05:26 GMT
#183
--- Nuked ---
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 25 2013 05:26 GMT
#184
On July 25 2013 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:24 bittman wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:24 lichter wrote:
People who consider Curious definitely better than sOs need to have their ears stuffed with camel hair


This thread is way too aggressive for me.


Almost as aggressive as MC killing Shuttle.


Wow man spoilers!
The curse is real
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:27 GMT
#185
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.


Real Time Strategy

Strategy

If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1953 Posts
July 25 2013 05:27 GMT
#186
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Um you mean the world where was in the semi-finals of the last GSL and the finals of the WCS for that GSL season? Cause I don't even know where the hell Curious was then, I think he made Ro8 in that GSL though.

Oh yeah sOs also that Asian martial arts games thing.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:27 GMT
#187
Reality didn't get the memo on hellbat drops I guess.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2013 05:27 GMT
#188
On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.


Real Time Strategy

Strategy

If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution


If you're Norwegian, play both.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:28 GMT
#189
On July 25 2013 14:27 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.


Real Time Strategy

Strategy

If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution


If you're Norwegian, play both.


At the same time.

Hand APM + Foot APM so gosu
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:28 GMT
#190
On July 25 2013 14:26 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.


There's this dude called Innovation.

What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx?


His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.

That's what I said, not including tvz there isn't a standard build that accounts for everything
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:31:01
July 25 2013 05:28 GMT
#191
On July 25 2013 14:24 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?


Unless I missed somthing curious has no relevant results this year. Certainly nothing compared to the WCS results of sOs.

He made Ro4 in 2013 GSL Season 1... He's made a result just as good as sOs' best GSL result.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 25 2013 05:29 GMT
#192
Hey Kangho you forgot the roaches.
Or is he actually going to play this out in macro style? :O
The curse is real
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1953 Posts
July 25 2013 05:29 GMT
#193
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.

I think you're actually just huge fanboy of certain players and so make up reasons for them losing.

Also potential Esf fanboy. Further analysis required for confirmation.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:29 GMT
#194
On July 25 2013 14:26 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:25 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:23 stuchiu wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.


There's this dude called Innovation.

What's your point? That every standard player is as good as innovation, or that innovation's builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvx?


His builds are safe enough and economic enough to play standard in tvz. If you know, you're as good as him.

Oh wow I missed a word sorry about the confusion
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:30:55
July 25 2013 05:29 GMT
#195
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.

Unfortunately, StarCraft is not such a static and unchanging game as you wish it would be. The whole dynamic of cheeses, unorthodox plays and "weird strategies and tech switches" applies in a game designed for out-thinking and out-playing your opponent in a massive variety of ways. Sure we have our mechanical monsters like Curious, but based off of results, sOs has been better lately, and thus he can be seen as the better player, so being a player like sOs does not determine how "good" you are as a player.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:30 GMT
#196
That was underwhelming lol
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:30 GMT
#197
Hahaha Losira what was that
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:31:33
July 25 2013 05:31 GMT
#198
losira picked the worst part of that wall to use the banes. and yes cost inefficient, blah blah
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 25 2013 05:31 GMT
#199
Um, those banes.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 25 2013 05:31 GMT
#200
On July 25 2013 14:28 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:24 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?


Unless I missed somthing curious has no relevant results this year. Certainly nothing compared to the WCS results of sOs.

He made Ro4 in 2013 GSL Season 1... He's made a result just as good as sOs' best result.


That was in WoL and a tournament that ended four months ago. And 4th place isn't quite as good as second.
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