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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 25 2013 05:31 GMT
#201
--- Nuked ---
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2013 05:32 GMT
#202
This map seems kind of hard for Zerg. I'll have to think about it some more.
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 25 2013 05:32 GMT
#203
It's not often you see Losira get outmultitasked. Dude's one of the fastest players in the world. Quite impressive from Reality.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#204
On July 25 2013 14:31 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.


Real Time Strategy

Strategy

If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution

That isn't what I want, I enjoy the strategy part of RTS games. Imo there is a difference between doing something because it is smart and doing it because it is so weird the other player won;t expect it/know how to respond to it.

Thats what separates players like Mvp and a player like sOs.


I love Mvp but how is 2raxing Protosses smarter than the crazy shit sOs does?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#205
Losira is dead
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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#206
Besides, we don't even know sOs will win. They're both very capable of taking the series. I just think sOs is currently a better player.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:35:24
July 25 2013 05:34 GMT
#207
On July 25 2013 14:31 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:27 lichter wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:21 bo1b wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:20 Elite_ wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:18 blobrus wrote:
On July 25 2013 14:10 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great, True and sOs going to cheese better players out of Code S...



In what world is Curious better than sOs?

This world. Are you new to SC2 this year or have you always considered an nonstandard player better than a standard player?

Nonstandard < standard is a fallacy I really hope the sc2 community grows out of, especially since out of tvz there really isn't a standard style of play which accounts for pretty much everything.

It isn't just about playing "standard" as that had no real meaning in a few matchups atm and there is always multiple ways to play out a macro game.

It is that sOs doesn't win games by outplaying his opponent but rather by surprising him with weird strategies and tech switches. This makes him a worse player in my mind then someone like Curious who will win 90% with straight up better mechanics and skill.


Real Time Strategy

Strategy

If you want pure mechanics play Dance Dance Revolution

That isn't what I want, I enjoy the strategy part of RTS games. Imo there is a difference between doing something because it is smart and doing it because it is so weird the other player won;t expect it/know how to respond to it.

Thats what separates players like Mvp and a player like sOs.

Just because you want to enjoy a certain part of the game doesn't make you right.

And doing something weird because the opponent won't expect is smart, BECAUSE the opponent won't expect.

If no one cheesed and everyone just fast expanded the game would be lame.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:34:53
July 25 2013 05:34 GMT
#208
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:35 GMT
#209
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Spoiler alert
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:35 GMT
#210
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 05:36:56
July 25 2013 05:36 GMT
#211
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?


No one would bother using them for runby defense.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 25 2013 05:36 GMT
#212
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

Innovation would be the only person on the planet able to play that style of tvz
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 25 2013 05:36 GMT
#213
Eh, it's still not as good as WoL TvZ 2011. Not even close.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:36 GMT
#214
Poll: Recommend Reality vs KangHo Game 1?

★ (4)
 
33%

★★★★★ (3)
 
25%

★★★★ (3)
 
25%

★★★ (1)
 
8%

★★ (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Reality vs KangHo Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★

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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
July 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#215
That's a nice game by Reality, Losira didn't play too bad.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
July 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#216
On July 25 2013 14:32 Rhaegal wrote:
It's not often you see Losira get outmultitasked. Dude's one of the fastest players in the world. Quite impressive from Reality.

maybe his crazy apm is just spam... :/
...
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
July 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#217
I knew Reality was a familiar face, and now I see he resembles Center.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
July 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#218
ZvT is SOOOO hard. I feel zergs pain.
Above the lakes, above the vales, The mountains and the woods, the clouds, the seas, Beyond the sun, beyond the ether, Beyond the confines of the starry spheres, My soul, you move with ease
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#219
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

No more lucky hits and total imbaness.


Zergs seems to have problems at the highset elvel of play against this 4M rallypush, why dont they get a few defensive swarmhosts?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2013 05:38 GMT
#220
On July 25 2013 14:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
What would change if widow mines were manual fire only instead of automatic fire?

Innovation would be the only person on the planet able to play that style of tvz


Potential for huge damage if you have the micro and multitasking. Sure fire on baneling clumps. No luck involved, all skill. Makes micro players better, makes worse players even worse.
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