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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#361
On July 23 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (T)TaeJa vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct

0:00
TaeJa spawns in the bottom right
XY spawns in the bottom left

1:40
rax first for both plyers
gas for TaeJa

2:00
gas for XY

3:00
Factory for TaeJa
2nd gas for TaeJa
CC on the low ground for XY

4:00
Factory for XY
reactor for XY
Starport for TaeJa
tech lab for TaeJa on his factory next to the starport

5:00
2nd gas for XY
cloak reearch and banshee for TaeJa
widow mine for TaeJa
Starport for XY

6:00
CC for TaeJa
hellions coming out for XY
banshee of TaeJa moving across the map
ebay for XY

7:00
banshee harassing the main mineral line of XY
XY has a viking out but the banshee cloaks
The banshee has reached double digit worker kills
the banshee escapes from the scan

8:00
2nd scan is used and the banshee is killed
2nd banshee comes in for TaeJa and starts killing more scvs
banshee moves to the natural as it chases scvs
3rd CC for XY
the 2nd banshee escapes
19 workers killed
tank out for TaeJa

9:00 T 60 vs X 48
banshee finds the building 3rd of XY and kills the building scvs
hellion attack into the natural of TaeJa is pushed back by marines and a tank
banshee in the main of XY
2 more rax for TaeJa
2nd factory for XY
banshee in the natural of XY

10:00 T 66 vs X 40
36 workers killed now
4 rax building for TaeJa
combat shields for TaeJa
Marauders for TaeJa
stim research for TaeJa
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
July 23 2013 01:03 GMT
#362
lol taeja 25 units killed to 1 and like 40 workers vs 1 worker killed lol

such rape
savior did nothing wrong
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 23 2013 01:03 GMT
#363
hhaha all he had were those 2 seeker missles
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 23 2013 01:03 GMT
#364
Poll: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 2?

★★ (4)
 
44%

★ (3)
 
33%

★★★★★ (1)
 
11%

★★★★ (1)
 
11%

★★★ (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


Poll: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 3?

★★★★★ (3)
 
43%

★★★★ (1)
 
14%

★★★ (1)
 
14%

★★ (1)
 
14%

★ (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


Moderatorlickypiddy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 01:03 GMT
#365
On July 23 2013 10:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (T)TaeJa vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct

0:00
TaeJa spawns in the bottom right
XY spawns in the bottom left

1:40
rax first for both plyers
gas for TaeJa

2:00
gas for XY

3:00
Factory for TaeJa
2nd gas for TaeJa
CC on the low ground for XY

4:00
Factory for XY
reactor for XY
Starport for TaeJa
tech lab for TaeJa on his factory next to the starport

5:00
2nd gas for XY
cloak reearch and banshee for TaeJa
widow mine for TaeJa
Starport for XY

6:00
CC for TaeJa
hellions coming out for XY
banshee of TaeJa moving across the map
ebay for XY

7:00
banshee harassing the main mineral line of XY
XY has a viking out but the banshee cloaks
The banshee has reached double digit worker kills
the banshee escapes from the scan

8:00
2nd scan is used and the banshee is killed
2nd banshee comes in for TaeJa and starts killing more scvs
banshee moves to the natural as it chases scvs
3rd CC for XY
the 2nd banshee escapes
19 workers killed
tank out for TaeJa

9:00 T 60 vs X 48
banshee finds the building 3rd of XY and kills the building scvs
hellion attack into the natural of TaeJa is pushed back by marines and a tank
banshee in the main of XY
2 more rax for TaeJa
2nd factory for XY
banshee in the natural of XY

10:00 T 66 vs X 40
36 workers killed now
4 rax building for TaeJa
combat shields for TaeJa
Marauders for TaeJa
stim research for TaeJa

11:00 T 87 vs X 49
another banshee harassing in the natural of XY kills a mule and a scv
3rd of XY was forced to cancel by one of the banshees
armory for XY

12:00 T 103 vs X 49
TaeJa moving across the map
Xy losing hellions in the middle of the map
TaeJa pushing into the natural
TaEJa brought a bunch of scvs
XY just ggs!
TaeJa wins 2-0 and advances to the Ro16!
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 23 2013 01:03 GMT
#366
the hair was no dream, it is still there!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#367
killing own marine helps nothing it makes everything worse oO u can pull the marine away but if hes dead the bullet will come to his last place an explode nothing to defend it no chance to run
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#368
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?
kiss kiss fall in love
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#369
That's some godawful TvT...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#370
D: don't target the opponent units in TvT, target your unit and suicide it into the opponent, so the Seeker does a money shot unless he pulls back.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 23 2013 01:05 GMT
#371
On July 23 2013 10:01 PanzerElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:56 garbanzo wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:52 garbanzo wrote:
Wow, that game showed exactly what it means to have a difference in skill. Basically just a NR20 game with TaeJa just having a huge supply lead by the time he attacked.


nr 20? lolool, xy added way too many buildings before producing.


How is that relevant to the fact that nothing really happened in the first 20 mins? Okay, so maybe TaeJa was playing NR20 and XY missed the memo and was playing NR25.


Do you call this NR 20, LOL NR20 is when both go 1 rax into 3 cc's and then 2 engie bays into even more infrastructure etc, Teaja wanted to banshee but he was completely shut down. XY tried to be very aggressive but that was denied by teaja. Plz, nr 20 what a joke.

Yes, it was a joke; specifically, a hyperbole. And no, this isn't NR20 because relevant things are actually happening before the 20 min mark. I jokingly called it NR20 because both tried to harass and weren't successful, as you pointed out. Neither player got a(n) (dis)advantage from the early game.

And in case you're still missing the exaggeration, I know TaeJa attacked before the 20 min mark in the first game.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 01:05 GMT
#372
On July 23 2013 10:00 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:45 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
I know this is only group stages, but can we get a proper observer at least?

I wasn't sure I agreed with you earlier... however since there's no production tab at the 8 min 9:30 mark I have to agree!


I'm a tank! :D

The moonglade vs XY game on Korhal Sky Island had no production tab until the 12th min. Makes it kind of hard to LR cause I have no idea what structures or upgrades are being made off screen
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 23 2013 01:05 GMT
#373
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?


If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes.

(I don't understand the question, I think.)
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
July 23 2013 01:06 GMT
#374
to be completely honest, XY made some diamond level mistakes there. He scanned the main and saw the cloak timing, waited 20 more seconds to drop ebay, and didn't build a single turret..... what?
nothing
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 23 2013 01:06 GMT
#375
On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?


If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes.

(I don't understand the question, I think.)


Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?
kiss kiss fall in love
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 01:06 GMT
#376
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?

He still likely would have lost because he showed here and in challenger league that his TvT positioning and builds aren't very good compared to someone like TaeJa and his macro isn't nearly as good as TaeJa's. His best hope is to pray for mOOnGLaDe to take out Polt because I don't see him standing much of a chance against Polt.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 23 2013 01:08 GMT
#377
After the high quality of Taeja vs Polt xy just doesn't stack up haha
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PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
July 23 2013 01:08 GMT
#378
On July 23 2013 10:05 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 10:01 PanzerElite wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:56 garbanzo wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:52 garbanzo wrote:
Wow, that game showed exactly what it means to have a difference in skill. Basically just a NR20 game with TaeJa just having a huge supply lead by the time he attacked.


nr 20? lolool, xy added way too many buildings before producing.


How is that relevant to the fact that nothing really happened in the first 20 mins? Okay, so maybe TaeJa was playing NR20 and XY missed the memo and was playing NR25.


Do you call this NR 20, LOL NR20 is when both go 1 rax into 3 cc's and then 2 engie bays into even more infrastructure etc, Teaja wanted to banshee but he was completely shut down. XY tried to be very aggressive but that was denied by teaja. Plz, nr 20 what a joke.

Yes, it was a joke; specifically, a hyperbole. And no, this isn't NR20 because relevant things are actually happening before the 20 min mark. I jokingly called it NR20 because both tried to harass and weren't successful, as you pointed out. Neither player got a(n) (dis)advantage from the early game.

And in case you're still missing the exaggeration, I know TaeJa attacked before the 20 min mark in the first game.

You know, some stuff is hard to get over through the internet. still being awake while it's already passed 3 am also doesn't help much.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 23 2013 01:09 GMT
#379
On July 23 2013 10:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?


If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes.

(I don't understand the question, I think.)


Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?


Thanks for the confirmation. Does having more supply over your opponent also form an advantage regardless of mech or bio/tank?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 23 2013 01:09 GMT
#380
On July 23 2013 10:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?


If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes.

(I don't understand the question, I think.)


Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?


Yeah, more bases=more money=more stuff.

Worth noting is that economy obviously comes for a price. In this game, Taeja had a big tech advantage in the cloaked banshees that more than negated the economic advantage of XY.
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