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United States97274 Posts
On July 23 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 09:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00  TaeJa spawns in the bottom right XY spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for both plyers gas for TaeJa 2:00 gas for XY 3:00 Factory for TaeJa 2nd gas for TaeJa CC on the low ground for XY 4:00 Factory for XY reactor for XY Starport for TaeJa tech lab for TaeJa on his factory next to the starport 5:00 2nd gas for XY cloak reearch and banshee for TaeJa widow mine for TaeJa Starport for XY
6:00
CC for TaeJa
hellions coming out for XY
banshee of TaeJa moving across the map
ebay for XY
7:00
banshee harassing the main mineral line of XY
XY has a viking out but the banshee cloaks
The banshee has reached double digit worker kills
the banshee escapes from the scan
8:00
2nd scan is used and the banshee is killed
2nd banshee comes in for TaeJa and starts killing more scvs
banshee moves to the natural as it chases scvs
3rd CC for XY
the 2nd banshee escapes
19 workers killed
tank out for TaeJa
9:00 T 60 vs X 48
banshee finds the building 3rd of XY and kills the building scvs
hellion attack into the natural of TaeJa is pushed back by marines and a tank
banshee in the main of XY
2 more rax for TaeJa
2nd factory for XY
banshee in the natural of XY
10:00 T 66 vs X 40
36 workers killed now
4 rax building for TaeJa
combat shields for TaeJa
Marauders for TaeJa
stim research for TaeJa
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lol taeja 25 units killed to 1 and like 40 workers vs 1 worker killed lol
such rape
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hhaha all he had were those 2 seeker missles 
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Canada16217 Posts
Poll: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 2?★★ (4) 44% ★ (3) 33% ★★★★★ (1) 11% ★★★★ (1) 11% ★★★ (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★
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Poll: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 3?★★★★★ (3) 43% ★★★★ (1) 14% ★★★ (1) 14% ★★ (1) 14% ★ (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs XY game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★
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United States97274 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 23 2013 09:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 TaeJa spawns in the bottom right XY spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for both plyers gas for TaeJa 2:00 gas for XY 3:00 Factory for TaeJa 2nd gas for TaeJa CC on the low ground for XY 4:00 Factory for XY reactor for XY Starport for TaeJa tech lab for TaeJa on his factory next to the starport 5:00 2nd gas for XY cloak reearch and banshee for TaeJa widow mine for TaeJa Starport for XY 6:00 CC for TaeJa hellions coming out for XY banshee of TaeJa moving across the map ebay for XY 7:00 banshee harassing the main mineral line of XY XY has a viking out but the banshee cloaks The banshee has reached double digit worker kills the banshee escapes from the scan 8:00 2nd scan is used and the banshee is killed 2nd banshee comes in for TaeJa and starts killing more scvs banshee moves to the natural as it chases scvs 3rd CC for XY the 2nd banshee escapes 19 workers killed tank out for TaeJa 9:00 T 60 vs X 48 banshee finds the building 3rd of XY and kills the building scvs hellion attack into the natural of TaeJa is pushed back by marines and a tank banshee in the main of XY 2 more rax for TaeJa 2nd factory for XY banshee in the natural of XY 10:00 T 66 vs X 40 36 workers killed now 4 rax building for TaeJa combat shields for TaeJa Marauders for TaeJa stim research for TaeJa
11:00 T 87 vs X 49
another banshee harassing in the natural of XY kills a mule and a scv
3rd of XY was forced to cancel by one of the banshees
armory for XY
12:00 T 103 vs X 49
TaeJa moving across the map
Xy losing hellions in the middle of the map
TaeJa pushing into the natural
TaEJa brought a bunch of scvs
XY just ggs!
TaeJa wins 2-0 and advances to the Ro16!
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the hair was no dream, it is still there!
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killing own marine helps nothing it makes everything worse oO u can pull the marine away but if hes dead the bullet will come to his last place an explode nothing to defend it no chance to run
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Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?
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That's some godawful TvT...
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D: don't target the opponent units in TvT, target your unit and suicide it into the opponent, so the Seeker does a money shot unless he pulls back.
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On July 23 2013 10:01 PanzerElite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 09:56 garbanzo wrote:On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:On July 23 2013 09:52 garbanzo wrote:
Wow, that game showed exactly what it means to have a difference in skill. Basically just a NR20 game with TaeJa just having a huge supply lead by the time he attacked. nr 20? lolool, xy added way too many buildings before producing. How is that relevant to the fact that nothing really happened in the first 20 mins? Okay, so maybe TaeJa was playing NR20 and XY missed the memo and was playing NR25. Do you call this NR 20, LOL NR20 is when both go 1 rax into 3 cc's and then 2 engie bays into even more infrastructure etc, Teaja wanted to banshee but he was completely shut down. XY tried to be very aggressive but that was denied by teaja. Plz, nr 20 what a joke.
Yes, it was a joke; specifically, a hyperbole. And no, this isn't NR20 because relevant things are actually happening before the 20 min mark. I jokingly called it NR20 because both tried to harass and weren't successful, as you pointed out. Neither player got a(n) (dis)advantage from the early game.
And in case you're still missing the exaggeration, I know TaeJa attacked before the 20 min mark in the first game.
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United States97274 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:00 DusTerr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 09:45 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
I know this is only group stages, but can we get a proper observer at least? I wasn't sure I agreed with you earlier... however since there's no production tab at the 8 min 9:30 mark I have to agree! I'm a tank! :D
The moonglade vs XY game on Korhal Sky Island had no production tab until the 12th min.  Makes it kind of hard to LR cause I have no idea what structures or upgrades are being made off screen
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On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?
If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes.
(I don't understand the question, I think.)
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to be completely honest, XY made some diamond level mistakes there. He scanned the main and saw the cloak timing, waited 20 more seconds to drop ebay, and didn't build a single turret..... what?
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On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa? If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes. (I don't understand the question, I think.)
Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?
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United States97274 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa?
He still likely would have lost because he showed here and in challenger league that his TvT positioning and builds aren't very good compared to someone like TaeJa and his macro isn't nearly as good as TaeJa's. His best hope is to pray for mOOnGLaDe to take out Polt because I don't see him standing much of a chance against Polt.
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United States23455 Posts
After the high quality of Taeja vs Polt xy just doesn't stack up haha
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On July 23 2013 10:05 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 10:01 PanzerElite wrote:On July 23 2013 09:56 garbanzo wrote:On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:On July 23 2013 09:53 PanzerElite wrote:On July 23 2013 09:52 garbanzo wrote:
Wow, that game showed exactly what it means to have a difference in skill. Basically just a NR20 game with TaeJa just having a huge supply lead by the time he attacked. nr 20? lolool, xy added way too many buildings before producing. How is that relevant to the fact that nothing really happened in the first 20 mins? Okay, so maybe TaeJa was playing NR20 and XY missed the memo and was playing NR25. Do you call this NR 20, LOL NR20 is when both go 1 rax into 3 cc's and then 2 engie bays into even more infrastructure etc, Teaja wanted to banshee but he was completely shut down. XY tried to be very aggressive but that was denied by teaja. Plz, nr 20 what a joke. Yes, it was a joke; specifically, a hyperbole. And no, this isn't NR20 because relevant things are actually happening before the 20 min mark. I jokingly called it NR20 because both tried to harass and weren't successful, as you pointed out. Neither player got a(n) (dis)advantage from the early game. And in case you're still missing the exaggeration, I know TaeJa attacked before the 20 min mark in the first game.
You know, some stuff is hard to get over through the internet. still being awake while it's already passed 3 am also doesn't help much. 
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On July 23 2013 10:06 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa? If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes. (I don't understand the question, I think.) Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?
Thanks for the confirmation. Does having more supply over your opponent also form an advantage regardless of mech or bio/tank?
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On July 23 2013 10:06 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 10:05 DJHelium wrote:On July 23 2013 10:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone know TvT well enough to say whether or not XY would've done better/won the game if he didn't lose as many SCVs and got his 3rd before TaeJa? If he doesn't lose SCVs and gets a third up he does better, yes. (I don't understand the question, I think.) Actually your response answers it really well, thanks. So does having one base over your opponent always form an advantage regardless of Mech or Bio/Tank?
Yeah, more bases=more money=more stuff.
Worth noting is that economy obviously comes for a price. In this game, Taeja had a big tech advantage in the cloaked banshees that more than negated the economic advantage of XY.
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