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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:32:39
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1361
On July 23 2013 20:30 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:29 5unrise wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:28 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.


Stupidity level infinite

you agreeing or disagreeing with him? just curious


Well, having transitions necessary would be fun. I like ghosts/ravens and bc's :o



Like I said already, transition into late game Terran units is actually counter-productive. They don't share upgrades and they give up the strengths that bio has which is mobility.

Bio is designed to not be played with higher tech units except in a support role.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1362
On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".

shame on those mods

Are you serious? lol
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1363
On July 23 2013 20:29 ReMinD_ wrote:
Despite great game, I can't help but think that Terran has a much easier time than Zerg in this match-up.

Yes, since Hots Release with wm. Terran is the macro race HotS.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1364
On July 23 2013 20:31 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:29 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:27 Wintex wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:27 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:25 Wintex wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:20 forsooth wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Oh my.

These two are the new Nestea vs MVP, DRG vs MKP, Stephano vs Polt.

They always put on a great show in TvZ.

Mvp vs Nestea was never that close, Mvp vs Leenock on the other hand was always classic.


Ah yes indeed those two always did produce epic games.

Still remember the series that got Leenock into the finals vs Jjajki. Heartbreaking loss for MVP.

[image loading]

Such a good series.


LOL I remember that Marauder.

That was Chuck Norris in a Marauder suit.


I don't remember that... When/what was it ?

Dual Sight, Leenock vs Mvp.


Thanks ! Will check that, I don't remember at all, though I swear I had a ticket for this season...


In case it wasn't clear, it was a while back.

I think..... late 2011.

Wasn't that meme from that Violet vs Mvp game on Entombed valley where Mvp ran around killing shit with a 25 kill Marauder and a medivac?


Leenock vs Mvp VOD.
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors7/vod/66507
The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1365
On July 23 2013 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I may be the only one but I find Innovation's playstyle boring. It's just... greed into rally things across the map for the rest of the game with great control.

Oh, how unimpressive if it's just that. How about you just give us a break?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 23 2013 11:32 GMT
#1366
On July 23 2013 20:32 Chr15t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".

shame on those mods

Are you serious? lol



yes, I am.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1367
On July 23 2013 20:30 Yello wrote:
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs. [image loading] (T)INnoVation
Game 2: Star Station


Soulkey spawns in the top left
Innovation spawns in the bottom right


0:00-4:00min
CC first on the low ground by Innovation
Hatch first for Soulkey

Rax and Gas for Innovation
3rd Hatch before Pool for Soulkey
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:33:29
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1368
On July 23 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:30 Ketch wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:29 5unrise wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:28 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.


Stupidity level infinite

you agreeing or disagreeing with him? just curious


Well, having transitions necessary would be fun. I like ghosts/ravens and bc's :o



Like I said already, transition into late game Terran units is actually counter-productive. They don't share upgrades and they give up the strengths that bio has which is mobility.

Which is why we need mvp-break-your-neck-mech-for-the-love-of-god-is-that-banshees-and-BCs back
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1369
On July 23 2013 20:32 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I may be the only one but I find Innovation's playstyle boring. It's just... greed into rally things across the map for the rest of the game with great control.

Oh, how unimpressive if it's just that. How about you just give us a break?


Back off, I didn't say it wasn't hard as shit to do. I just don't enjoy watching it every single game he plays
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1370
On July 23 2013 20:31 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:29 5unrise wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:28 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.


Stupidity level infinite

you agreeing or disagreeing with him? just curious


Disagreeing obviously. If Terran had any other viable options in a constant trade-off game, he can elaborate me. Marine/Tank isn't viable against mass muta styles, as you cannot keep up. Also your push timings are delayed and ultralisks can hit you very hard.

Biomine is strong, but judging its strength based on INnoVations play is stupid, he's one of the best, if not the best Terran vs Zerg player right now and there are basically no Terrans that can match him in his mine control and hits what shows perfectly that the unit in itself isn't overpowered, but hard to use with a high reward.

You've gotta transition to those 0/0 BCs or Thors.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1371
On July 23 2013 20:31 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:29 5unrise wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:28 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.


Stupidity level infinite

you agreeing or disagreeing with him? just curious


Disagreeing obviously. If Terran had any other viable options in a constant trade-off game, he can elaborate me. Marine/Tank isn't viable against mass muta styles, as you cannot keep up. Also your push timings are delayed and ultralisks can hit you very hard.

Biomine is strong, but judging its strength based on INnoVations play is stupid, he's one of the best, if not the best Terran vs Zerg player right now and there are basically no Terrans that can match him in his mine control and hits what shows perfectly that the unit in itself isn't overpowered, but hard to use with a high reward.

Pretty much, he's basically the perfect tvz player, and any imbalance in tvz is pretty minimal.
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1372
On July 23 2013 20:31 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:29 5unrise wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:28 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.


Stupidity level infinite

you agreeing or disagreeing with him? just curious


Disagreeing obviously. If Terran had any other viable options in a constant trade-off game, he can elaborate me. Marine/Tank isn't viable against mass muta styles, as you cannot keep up. Also your push timings are delayed and ultralisks can hit you very hard.

Biomine is strong, but judging its strength based on INnoVations play is stupid, he's one of the best, if not the best Terran vs Zerg player right now and there are basically no Terrans that can match him in his mine control and hits what shows perfectly that the unit in itself isn't overpowered, but hard to use with a high reward.


Yeah, agreed. Was just curious, as I said. I'd pm you but that would be a bit strange
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#1373
On July 23 2013 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I may be the only one but I find Innovation's playstyle boring. It's just... greed into rally things across the map for the rest of the game with great control.


Best way to play vs Zerg. If you ever relent they can tech to Ultra freely.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1374
On July 23 2013 20:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.

I can't figure out what you mean by this?

I'm saying it's starting to get boring as hell...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1375
GOM still has 3 times more viewers even though OGN stream is better in every regard
Oh well, hopefully it will change in coming seasons. imo, GSL should be watched on GOM and OSL on OGN..
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1376
--- Nuked ---
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1377
this camera rotate on OGN is a bit disconcerting
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1378
I wish Mech was actually a viable alternative.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1379
On July 23 2013 20:32 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I may be the only one but I find Innovation's playstyle boring. It's just... greed into rally things across the map for the rest of the game with great control.

Oh, how unimpressive if it's just that. How about you just give us a break?

I agree innovations BUILDS are boring and predictable, but the games he delivers are just pure action
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#1380
On July 23 2013 20:34 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
30 minutes in the game still pure marine marauder widow mine...gotta love terran.

I can't figure out what you mean by this?

I'm saying it's starting to get boring as hell...

Don't watch then... You ain't getting forced.
The Bomber boy
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