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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 16 2013 11:47 GMT
#741
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..


Concave against what? He was chasing a retreating protoss army. And by the time he arrived to Trap's natural, there was no colosus or ht for splash damage, why would he need concave against that?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 16 2013 11:47 GMT
#742
On July 16 2013 20:44 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
From Twitch chat:

"Xjesta: i have absolutely no idea whats going on, but its doa and monte so i watch lol"

Doa and Monte casting SC2 is a good thing.


They are great casters. It works like Tanktosis, I guess. MonteDoa is great (what is the archon name they use????).
The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 16 2013 11:47 GMT
#743
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 16 2013 11:48 GMT
#744
On July 16 2013 20:47 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.


"Skill ceiling" still the worst balance whine in LR threads that doesn't get warnings =P
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
July 16 2013 11:48 GMT
#745
On July 16 2013 20:47 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..


Concave against what? He was chasing a retreating protoss army. And by the time he arrived to Trap's natural, there was no colosus or ht for splash damage, why would he need concave against that?

I'm not saying he needed too. I'm just saying that things like that make terran skill ceiling much higher than a-move units.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 16 2013 11:48 GMT
#746
On July 16 2013 20:46 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:45 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:37 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:36 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:31 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:29 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Aeleron wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Bagration wrote:
Wow, speculating that SKT will match fix. Seriously, you guys think Boxer will let something like that happen? Don't you think Fantasy and Rain have integrity?

Wow


People like drama


No, they're idiots who would happily throw accusations of match fixing at progamers.


It's nice that you're so trusting of people after all that has happened in brood war, but It's naive.


It may be silly to trust, but without that trust there wouldn't be a SC2 scene. I'm going to take a leap of faith. savior's crime does not implicate all progamers. Many of them are guiltless, and we shouldn't treat them like match fixers.


there's a moral difference between match fixing and just not giving a 100% in a game against a teammate where you are already out but your mate can still advance


I agree that for Fantasy there is a difference.

But do you think everyone on TL will care? If fantasy plays even slightly poorly everyone will accuse him of throwing the match for Rain.


Of course there will be negativity and accusations, that's how LR threads are. Just one small step above Twitch-chat and sometimes even equally bad.
But we also have people here who see the difference and understand the situation, some of them already posted that.


Fantasy will lose 100%, it just won't be obvious. Seriously this situation isn't brand new. Remember people would play crappy in WCG in BW to avoid eachother.


On the flip side, if Fantasy does win, would he be a bad teammate or a good sportsman?
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#747
6:45 Templar Archives O_O
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#748
this is the build rain tried against innovation
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#749
SuperNova hit right before storm. Can we focus on the next game? If the colossuses die like that, you are dead.
The Bomber boy
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#750
On July 16 2013 20:48 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:47 TheDwf wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.


"Skill ceiling" still the worst balance whine in LR threads that doesn't get warnings =P


I've always argued about infinite skill ceiling. I should make a blog of it except lol blogs
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#751
Aquabats inc!
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
July 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#752
On July 16 2013 20:48 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:46 Thrillz wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:45 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:37 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:36 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:31 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:29 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Aeleron wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Bagration wrote:
Wow, speculating that SKT will match fix. Seriously, you guys think Boxer will let something like that happen? Don't you think Fantasy and Rain have integrity?

Wow


People like drama


No, they're idiots who would happily throw accusations of match fixing at progamers.


It's nice that you're so trusting of people after all that has happened in brood war, but It's naive.


It may be silly to trust, but without that trust there wouldn't be a SC2 scene. I'm going to take a leap of faith. savior's crime does not implicate all progamers. Many of them are guiltless, and we shouldn't treat them like match fixers.


there's a moral difference between match fixing and just not giving a 100% in a game against a teammate where you are already out but your mate can still advance


I agree that for Fantasy there is a difference.

But do you think everyone on TL will care? If fantasy plays even slightly poorly everyone will accuse him of throwing the match for Rain.


Of course there will be negativity and accusations, that's how LR threads are. Just one small step above Twitch-chat and sometimes even equally bad.
But we also have people here who see the difference and understand the situation, some of them already posted that.


Fantasy will lose 100%, it just won't be obvious. Seriously this situation isn't brand new. Remember people would play crappy in WCG in BW to avoid eachother.


On the flip side, if Fantasy does win, would he be a bad teammate or a good sportsman?

he would be a prisoner. Kespa jail awaits him either way, doesn't matter if he throws or if he beats rain
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 16 2013 11:50 GMT
#753
what the tits hell bats this way?
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 16 2013 11:50 GMT
#754
On July 16 2013 20:49 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:48 bittman wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:47 TheDwf wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.


"Skill ceiling" still the worst balance whine in LR threads that doesn't get warnings =P


I've always argued about infinite skill ceiling. I should make a blog of it except lol blogs


Blaawwwwwgs
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 16 2013 11:50 GMT
#755
I would rather see ghosts instead of those bf hellbats.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#756
On July 16 2013 20:49 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:48 bittman wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:47 TheDwf wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.


"Skill ceiling" still the worst balance whine in LR threads that doesn't get warnings =P


I've always argued about infinite skill ceiling. I should make a blog of it except lol blogs


should do that when you run out of TL+
decent blogs are the easiest way to farm some TL+ gifts :D
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#757
On July 16 2013 20:47 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:45 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..

The skill ceiling is infinite for all races, you can always do things better.

skills such as splitting and managing drops that actually make a huge difference when improved is what protoss lacks, it's hard to differentiate yourself from others, you can most certainly always improve in other areas, but they always have less impact, take maru for instance, he wins a lot of games just because of his godlike unit control, protoss doesn't really have that.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#758
Hahahaha, that scv pull was so late
The Bomber boy
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 11:52:08
July 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#759
Lol ! Mine drop that ravages probeline / ht drop that kills many scvs yay ! "We don't care about our workers !"
LiquipediaWanderer
pookums
Profile Joined December 2010
151 Posts
July 16 2013 11:52 GMT
#760
Storm drops are embarrassingly bad in SC2.
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