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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 17 2013 01:50 GMT
#941
Rebroadcast is on now.

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 17 2013 01:54 GMT
#942
hehe
they said hellbattier map
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moo...for DRG
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 17 2013 03:12 GMT
#943
Feel like First could have won that first map.
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TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
July 17 2013 05:20 GMT
#944
I thought there was free vods? Can't seem to find them..
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
July 17 2013 06:23 GMT
#945
Damn Trap, I thought u able to beat that Supernova guy :\
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kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
July 17 2013 06:53 GMT
#946
On July 17 2013 14:20 morevox wrote:
I thought there was free vods? Can't seem to find them..

http://de.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 09:12:23
July 17 2013 08:16 GMT
#947
On July 17 2013 06:47 1raxexpand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 06:31 nimdil wrote:
On July 17 2013 01:42 Baroninthetree wrote:
On July 17 2013 00:16 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 23:38 StarVe wrote:
On July 16 2013 23:26 lichter wrote:
OSL doesn't have round robin because they are stupid or want these pointless games. OGN has to use a round robin format because it ensures that their schedule is more or less fixed. OGN are also a TV station, and if Starcraft2 wants to be on TV, they will have to find a way to fit into TV schedules. Having days with only 1 or 2 games because the others were cancelled for being meaningless disrupts that schedule. These things are scheduled in advance and can't be changed.

Lots of sports play pointless games, especially sports with a regular season and playoffs such as the NBA. Lots of teams with no hope of changing their destinies play their benches and rookies even though their opponents still have a lot to play for.

I don't quite understand.

Meaningless games only happen in the round robin format, if they had used the GSL format not only in the Ro32 but also in the Ro16, there wouldn't have been any pointless games.



They need the pointless games to fill their schedule. If the pointless games were removed, some of their days would only have 1 or 2 games. This would prove to be a scheduling nightmare, because they need to schedule the games just in case they need to happen. That schedule needs to be filled because OGN televises the games on TV. You can't just schedule a TV spot and then adjust your schedule a week before. They don't want to show reruns, because the slot is dedicated to Starcraft.

It's not about having an optimal format.

It's about filling their time slot.

You don't get it, do you? The OSL format is simply bad. If they use the GSL format. There won't be any pointless game. The schedule will be fulfilled with meaningful game.

I enjoy OSL format more than GSL (in Ro16). For starters you play only one opponent each week instead of up to three- you can prepare. There are no truly meaningless games thanks to points. Round robin seems fair as you can't avoid hard matchup within a group.
OSL is a way to go


SK-Parting and Kangho-Maru are truly pointless games.

The whole idea of pointless games emerged after NaNiwa's probe rush. While I enjoy NaNiwa, I'm not exactly comfortable with idea that tournament format must ensure no "pointless" games occur. There's no such problem in other sports and generally round robin is a way to go for group play: football, tennis etc. Because the advantage of round robin is that you won't be eliminated by losing to only one player and this in my mind outweighs the "pointless game" issue.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 13:57:01
July 18 2013 13:54 GMT
#948
Totally wrong thread.
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