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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 16 2013 11:42 GMT
#721
These games are going by fast. Gonna be done within 3 hours
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#722
Supernova <3

he's been making a serious argument to get back into my signature
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#723
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#724
On July 16 2013 20:42 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:41 Sated wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:17 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:16 Pistoche wrote:
If it's a 3-way tie in win-loss, do they look at map score?


Liquipedia says ties are broken with a bo1 on the last day

I guess someone influential over at KeSPA has a real hard-on for best-of-one formats...

On the Fantasy topic, I don't think that he needs to throw because he is nowhere near as good as Rain.


I think rain said that he couldn't beat fantasy in practice?

Practice is one thing, live matches another. Always hear about players that "rank high in in-house tournaments" but fail completely when it comes to the real thing.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 11:44:36
July 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#725
On July 16 2013 20:42 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:41 Sated wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:17 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:16 Pistoche wrote:
If it's a 3-way tie in win-loss, do they look at map score?


Liquipedia says ties are broken with a bo1 on the last day

I guess someone influential over at KeSPA has a real hard-on for best-of-one formats...

On the Fantasy topic, I don't think that he needs to throw because he is nowhere near as good as Rain.


I think rain said that he couldn't beat fantasy in practice?


FanTaSy at his best is pretty good but he's barely been near that most of the time. Not consistent enough in SC2, or at least not in HotS.
On the other hand, Rain has been getting torn apart recently (though mainly in PvP).
"Who is better" isn't so simple, let alone so one-sided.
That's not to say the result is guaranteed NOT to be one sided.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#726
I really don't like that map. Might as well cut out the top left and bottom right quadrants, because they're almost never used. It's basically just a corridor. :/
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#727
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

His post had nothing to do with the game, and he isn't wrong. Most people don't like protoss' design.
Refer to my post.
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#728
On July 16 2013 20:43 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:42 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 Sated wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:17 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:16 Pistoche wrote:
If it's a 3-way tie in win-loss, do they look at map score?


Liquipedia says ties are broken with a bo1 on the last day

I guess someone influential over at KeSPA has a real hard-on for best-of-one formats...

On the Fantasy topic, I don't think that he needs to throw because he is nowhere near as good as Rain.


I think rain said that he couldn't beat fantasy in practice?

Practice is one thing, live matches another. Always hear about players that "rank high in in-house tournaments" but fail completely when it comes to the real thing.


Well the way Rain has been playing lately, I dont think he can beat Fanta.
In the rear with the gear!
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#729
SuperNova looks very very very very very good atm. Impressive.
i balance whine all the time.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#730
supernova played like a god there, making a seemingly standard and unimportant move such as killing an obs and then pouncing unseen before storm was done, quite awesome.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#731
From Twitch chat:

"Xjesta: i have absolutely no idea whats going on, but its doa and monte so i watch lol"

Doa and Monte casting SC2 is a good thing.






Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#732
On July 16 2013 20:44 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

His post had nothing to do with the game, and he isn't wrong. Most people don't like protoss' design.


And this thread is a place to discuss that?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#733
On July 16 2013 20:41 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:37 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:36 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:31 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:29 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Aeleron wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Bagration wrote:
Wow, speculating that SKT will match fix. Seriously, you guys think Boxer will let something like that happen? Don't you think Fantasy and Rain have integrity?

Wow


People like drama


No, they're idiots who would happily throw accusations of match fixing at progamers.


It's nice that you're so trusting of people after all that has happened in brood war, but It's naive.


It may be silly to trust, but without that trust there wouldn't be a SC2 scene. I'm going to take a leap of faith. savior's crime does not implicate all progamers. Many of them are guiltless, and we shouldn't treat them like match fixers.


there's a moral difference between match fixing and just not giving a 100% in a game against a teammate where you are already out but your mate can still advance


I agree that for Fantasy there is a difference.

But do you think everyone on TL will care? If fantasy plays even slightly poorly everyone will accuse him of throwing the match for Rain.


Of course there will be negativity and accusations, that's how LR threads are. Just one small step above Twitch-chat and sometimes even equally bad.
But we also have people here who see the difference and understand the situation, some of them already posted that.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
July 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#734
On July 16 2013 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:41 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Protoss is such a bad race despite the OP all-ins. Such a bad concept.


It was more about trap being on the map while Supernova's army was already on the move. Storms failed, all colossus went down without doing any damage to bio...

It wouldnt make a difference. Protoss skill ceiling is too low. Supernova didnt even have to split or make a concave..
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#735
On July 16 2013 20:43 Schelim wrote:
Supernova <3

he's been making a serious argument to get back into my signature

Why did you even remove him from it in the first place, you heretic!
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
July 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#736
On July 16 2013 20:43 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:42 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 Sated wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:17 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:16 Pistoche wrote:
If it's a 3-way tie in win-loss, do they look at map score?


Liquipedia says ties are broken with a bo1 on the last day

I guess someone influential over at KeSPA has a real hard-on for best-of-one formats...

On the Fantasy topic, I don't think that he needs to throw because he is nowhere near as good as Rain.


I think rain said that he couldn't beat fantasy in practice?


FanTaSy at his best is pretty good but he's barely been near that most of the time. Not consistent enough in SC2, or at least not in HotS.
On the other hand, Rain has been getting torn apart recently (though mainly in PvP).
"Who is better" isn't so simple, let alone so one-sided.
That's not to say the result is guaranteed NOT to be one sided.

well my point was more "fanta can beat rain" and less "fanta will beat rain". I just wanted to disprove the guy i answered to, since he said that fanta can't beat rain in any possible scenario.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#737
On July 16 2013 20:44 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
From Twitch chat:

"Xjesta: i have absolutely no idea whats going on, but its doa and monte so i watch lol"

Doa and Monte casting SC2 is a good thing.







on the other hand, we have proleague, someone respected in the scene REALLY needs to man up and tell kespa what's up and why they have such little viewer counts all the time.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#738
On July 16 2013 20:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:43 Schelim wrote:
Supernova <3

he's been making a serious argument to get back into my signature

Why did you even remove him from it in the first place, you heretic!


Was probably a rage removal due to missing Nestea award.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#739
On July 16 2013 20:45 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:41 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:37 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:36 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:31 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:29 Bagration wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Aeleron wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:26 Bagration wrote:
Wow, speculating that SKT will match fix. Seriously, you guys think Boxer will let something like that happen? Don't you think Fantasy and Rain have integrity?

Wow


People like drama


No, they're idiots who would happily throw accusations of match fixing at progamers.


It's nice that you're so trusting of people after all that has happened in brood war, but It's naive.


It may be silly to trust, but without that trust there wouldn't be a SC2 scene. I'm going to take a leap of faith. savior's crime does not implicate all progamers. Many of them are guiltless, and we shouldn't treat them like match fixers.


there's a moral difference between match fixing and just not giving a 100% in a game against a teammate where you are already out but your mate can still advance


I agree that for Fantasy there is a difference.

But do you think everyone on TL will care? If fantasy plays even slightly poorly everyone will accuse him of throwing the match for Rain.


Of course there will be negativity and accusations, that's how LR threads are. Just one small step above Twitch-chat and sometimes even equally bad.
But we also have people here who see the difference and understand the situation, some of them already posted that.


Fantasy will lose 100%, it just won't be obvious. Seriously this situation isn't brand new. Remember people would play crappy in WCG in BW to avoid eachother.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 11:47:05
July 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#740
On July 16 2013 20:44 jekku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 20:43 KristofferAG wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:42 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:41 Sated wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:17 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 16 2013 20:16 Pistoche wrote:
If it's a 3-way tie in win-loss, do they look at map score?


Liquipedia says ties are broken with a bo1 on the last day

I guess someone influential over at KeSPA has a real hard-on for best-of-one formats...

On the Fantasy topic, I don't think that he needs to throw because he is nowhere near as good as Rain.


I think rain said that he couldn't beat fantasy in practice?

Practice is one thing, live matches another. Always hear about players that "rank high in in-house tournaments" but fail completely when it comes to the real thing.


Well the way Rain has been playing lately, I dont think he can beat Fanta.

I don't think fanta can beat Rain either. Eh.

Draw?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
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