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[OSL] RO16 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 49

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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 10:36 GMT
#961
On July 04 2013 19:34 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:29 Schelim wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:25 saddaromma wrote:
Flash is the epitome of skill.

innovation will be gone with helbat nerf. same as many of zergs after hots.

hahaha, sure. Innovation never had any success without hellbats at all. right?

Flash must really have some kind of aura i cannot quite understand cause i've never followed BW. he has so many fanboys that just say anything to try and make him look better than everybody else.


Too bad you never saw flash in his prime. He practised more hours than anyone else and as a result was almost unbeatable. The flash we see today does not practise as much, maybe due to motivation or due to his injury, and as a result he is just mediocre. His fans will have to accept the truth some day, but it takes time, because he was "god" once.

WCS Korea RO16 two seasons in a row, second at MLG, most wins in Proleague (iirc) = "just mediocre"? Love your standards.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
July 04 2013 10:36 GMT
#962
fucking sad right now T.T
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 04 2013 10:36 GMT
#963
On July 04 2013 19:33 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:29 Tobblish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:27 Tobblish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:24 eGoRama wrote:
Sry Flash fans but he was just not good enough and Innovation played way better.

not sure if serious....

Game 1 BO loss and Game 2 was Flash inexplicably doing something retarded...

Exactly, he failed badly.

The better player won.

Yeah but saying Innovation played better there was not really saying anything.

Drop hellbats, pull scvs to repair bunker, win game.

"SO AMAZING!"

Flash just sucked a huge donk right there


Flash didn't defend well, sorry fanboy.


On July 04 2013 19:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:Flash just sucked a huge donk right there
I think you might have a reading comprehension problem...


or maybe I don't read the full post when a fanboy is breaking down.
Going from: Innovation is bad, Flash is awesome didn't do anything wrong, flash "sucked huge donk" is something else.

I didn't say Flash didn't do anything wrong... lol

I said Flash had a BO loss in game 1 and looked like a bronze player in game 2. I don't think it was very impressive that Innovation won in those circumstances. Like, not impressive at all. He basically a-moved to victory, lol.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#964
wow they are playing hardstyle.



Showtek & Noisecontrollers "Get Loose"


:D
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#965
gogo rain <3
hyvaa is no match for you
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#966
Wow Hyvaa has terrible micro now.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#967
lol these stats are so fuckin random it's hilarious
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#968
Hahaha 73 -> 58 Micro for hyvaa
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#969
On July 04 2013 19:35 Koshi wrote:
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On July 04 2013 19:31 NarutO wrote:
I don't understand Flashs decision in that game. He had marines (3) that are good enough to make you only lose mining time at your natural (go for a bunker). Also hellions are good against hellbats, but the amount (2) is not enough to make a difference. You are better of to build 2 mines initially if you plan on going for hellbats too, because your drop will be later. With a bunker at the natural, 2 initial mines and 2 vikings before medivacs, you can defend. You can go up to 4 vikings and produce hellbats nonstop.

As the defending player, you have the advantage and will usually trade cost efficient in units, even adding a 3rd cc before your opponent. Even if he somewhat kills a few workers, he'll never have cost efficient trades once his first hellbat drop didn't deny mining for 10-20 seconds and also killed a few workers. Poor defence, not 'state of the game' .

I love Flash, I really do and also INnoVation but what we need to blame there was Flashs poor defence.

I agree that Flash could have done better. But pure defending vs Hellbats is still bat crazy to pull off. Ff you look at the Keen vs Bomber series, Keen did it perfect vs 1 medivac, perfect vs 2 medivacs, and then 4 medivacs came and he lost the game...


It wasn't perfect then... simple as that There are maps where its harder on and maps where its easier on. Newkirk is one of the map where its pretty "easy". Two mines can zone off 40% of the route of medivacs already, vikings can zone out the rest and if they commit, they lose 300/100 guaranteed. There is no "can get out of it" and there's no "I'll be even in army" because constantly losing fighting stuff means you will be behind. :x

CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#970
Rain's ultimate goal: achieving 0 at the "Cheese" entry for his card.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
July 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#971
hyvaa's micro goes down by 15?
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#972
On July 04 2013 19:36 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:34 BlueFlames wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:29 Schelim wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:25 saddaromma wrote:
Flash is the epitome of skill.

innovation will be gone with helbat nerf. same as many of zergs after hots.

hahaha, sure. Innovation never had any success without hellbats at all. right?

Flash must really have some kind of aura i cannot quite understand cause i've never followed BW. he has so many fanboys that just say anything to try and make him look better than everybody else.


Too bad you never saw flash in his prime. He practised more hours than anyone else and as a result was almost unbeatable. The flash we see today does not practise as much, maybe due to motivation or due to his injury, and as a result he is just mediocre. His fans will have to accept the truth some day, but it takes time, because he was "god" once.

WCS Korea RO16 two seasons in a row, second at MLG, most wins in Proleague (iirc) = "just mediocre"? Love your standards.


I admit, my standards for flash are super high. The same thing with Jaedong.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#973
lol showtek, didn't expect hearing that in a gsl cast
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#974
Hellbat are just flat out too strong (health, damage) for what it cost, we can run around by making a lot of weird rules around this fact, the bio+mech tag, only 2 per medivacs, bio but can't get into bunker... and so on, but the main issue is that HB is so strong for what it cost that HB drop are always gonna be cost effective. This is true in all match up but it's less an issue because zerg eventually has mutalisk to stop drop so basically HB drop have a limited timing, and protoss also have Stalker/feedback to stop the drop.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#975
On July 04 2013 19:36 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:34 BlueFlames wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:29 Schelim wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:25 saddaromma wrote:
Flash is the epitome of skill.

innovation will be gone with helbat nerf. same as many of zergs after hots.

hahaha, sure. Innovation never had any success without hellbats at all. right?

Flash must really have some kind of aura i cannot quite understand cause i've never followed BW. he has so many fanboys that just say anything to try and make him look better than everybody else.


Too bad you never saw flash in his prime. He practised more hours than anyone else and as a result was almost unbeatable. The flash we see today does not practise as much, maybe due to motivation or due to his injury, and as a result he is just mediocre. His fans will have to accept the truth some day, but it takes time, because he was "god" once.

WCS Korea RO16 two seasons in a row, second at MLG, most wins in Proleague (iirc) = "just mediocre"? Love your standards.


Wait what he calls you for being top 25 GM EU.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#976
Both JD and Flash are at that weird situation where they're good players and get high finishes in tournaments but haven't broken out into the dominating top.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1062 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#977
On July 04 2013 19:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:34 r00ty wrote:
No Artosis stahp!

Let me guess, hyping the shit out of Rain with "best x of the world?"


No, he promised good games again...
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 04 2013 10:38 GMT
#978
Why the hell would you have sunglasses on in a darkish studio? Silly audience foreign guy.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#979
On July 04 2013 19:38 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:36 TheDwf wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:34 BlueFlames wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:29 Schelim wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:25 saddaromma wrote:
Flash is the epitome of skill.

innovation will be gone with helbat nerf. same as many of zergs after hots.

hahaha, sure. Innovation never had any success without hellbats at all. right?

Flash must really have some kind of aura i cannot quite understand cause i've never followed BW. he has so many fanboys that just say anything to try and make him look better than everybody else.


Too bad you never saw flash in his prime. He practised more hours than anyone else and as a result was almost unbeatable. The flash we see today does not practise as much, maybe due to motivation or due to his injury, and as a result he is just mediocre. His fans will have to accept the truth some day, but it takes time, because he was "god" once.

WCS Korea RO16 two seasons in a row, second at MLG, most wins in Proleague (iirc) = "just mediocre"? Love your standards.


I admit, my standards for flash are super high. The same thing with Jaedong.

Flash and Jaedong are clearly in different places of skill at the moment.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#980
On July 04 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:33 Tobblish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:29 Tobblish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:27 Tobblish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:24 eGoRama wrote:
Sry Flash fans but he was just not good enough and Innovation played way better.

not sure if serious....

Game 1 BO loss and Game 2 was Flash inexplicably doing something retarded...

Exactly, he failed badly.

The better player won.

Yeah but saying Innovation played better there was not really saying anything.

Drop hellbats, pull scvs to repair bunker, win game.

"SO AMAZING!"

Flash just sucked a huge donk right there


Flash didn't defend well, sorry fanboy.


On July 04 2013 19:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:Flash just sucked a huge donk right there
I think you might have a reading comprehension problem...


or maybe I don't read the full post when a fanboy is breaking down.
Going from: Innovation is bad, Flash is awesome didn't do anything wrong, flash "sucked huge donk" is something else.

I didn't say Flash didn't do anything wrong... lol

I said Flash had a BO loss in game 1 and looked like a bronze player in game 2. I don't think it was very impressive that Innovation won in those circumstances. Like, not impressive at all. He basically a-moved to victory, lol.


Yes but hellbats really snowball. Innovation had drop capability faster and even though Flash had solid defense in first drop, he still lost 7 workers which is still bad at that stage of the game. It was strange that he didn't make any turrets but Innovation could afford to make them and Flash really couldn't.
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