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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#621
On June 28 2013 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:41 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:35 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:33 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:28 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:27 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:22 Qwerty85 wrote:
What happened to MMA? He was such a great player and then he basically dissapeared


He stopped producing results after the Queen range patch in May 2012, he made it back into Code S once in 2012 S4 but fell out immediately.

He plays in WCS EU now, lost in the ro16 last season.

On June 28 2013 20:22 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[quote]
slump pretty much


a 14 month slump ~_~

I'd also add that his performance after Coach Ryu left showed who was the mind behind MMA's play...


What if i told you.
Boxer was the mind behind MMA's play.


But still, he had solid mechanics as well, and terran is mostly for the mechanically good people, even Innovation admits he doesn't have a very strategic mind, he simply wins on macro and mechanics alone.


Actually Terran is the only race that gave us a GSL-Champion who was totally inferior mechanically to his opponent. MVP says Hi. But yeah. of course he had good mechanics. He still is decent. But since Boxer is gone he's a mid/low tier Code A player.


Someone seems upset that Mvp didn't win GSL October :p


What? Did i phrase that wrong, or did you just not read correctly. MVP is the GSL champ who won a a Championship despite him being inferior in every (mechanical) way to squirtle.


u wot m8

As much as I like Squirtle saying he's mechanicly superior to Mvp in almost every way seems abit silly.


At the time everyone seemed convinced that Squirtle was by far the better player in actual Stacraft 2 " mechanical skill ". It was probably true, but it didn't matter because he was worse at playing a bo7 and worse at winning tournaments.

Exactly. At that level style, mental work and preparation are needed to capitalize on your mechanical skill is higher. MKP suffered from the fact that his play was onedimensional and cheese happened way too much.
The Bomber boy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16089 Posts
June 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#622
On June 28 2013 20:53 VmY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:50 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:41 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:35 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:33 robson1 wrote:
[quote]

Actually Terran is the only race that gave us a GSL-Champion who was totally inferior mechanically to his opponent. MVP says Hi. But yeah. of course he had good mechanics. He still is decent. But since Boxer is gone he's a mid/low tier Code A player.


Someone seems upset that Mvp didn't win GSL October :p


What? Did i phrase that wrong, or did you just not read correctly. MVP is the GSL champ who won a a Championship despite him being inferior in every (mechanical) way to squirtle.


u wot m8

As much as I like Squirtle saying he's mechanicly superior to Mvp in almost every way seems abit silly.


At the time everyone seemed convinced that Squirtle was by far the better player in actual Stacraft 2 " mechanical skill ". It was probably true, but it didn't matter because he was worse at playing a bo7 and worse at winning tournaments.


Ah, this was right after his second place at IPL4 and his pretty sick streak in the GSL right? Makes more sense then, but yeah, beating Mvp in a BO7 is something else.


Yup this was right after Squirtle's breakout performance at IPL4 and he went through that GSL season only losing one map in the ro32, he went undefeated in the ro16 through to the finals.


Nobody slaps down hype like Mvp.


That whole season was just Mvp slapping down hype. First stopping Naniwa in the ro8 in Naniwa's first Code S season, then smacking down Parting who looked unbeatable in PvT and said in his interview he would 3-0 Mvp, then slapping down the undefeated Squirtle.

Damn, that was a good GSL season.


My favourite sofar, everytime Mvp was seen as the underdog and everytime he came through. Loved it.


I don't know if Fionn or Waxangel share our feelings though, that entire season was nothing but MVP laughing in their faces.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 11:55:38
June 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#623
On June 28 2013 20:52 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:50 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:41 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:35 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:33 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
[quote]

But still, he had solid mechanics as well, and terran is mostly for the mechanically good people, even Innovation admits he doesn't have a very strategic mind, he simply wins on macro and mechanics alone.


Actually Terran is the only race that gave us a GSL-Champion who was totally inferior mechanically to his opponent. MVP says Hi. But yeah. of course he had good mechanics. He still is decent. But since Boxer is gone he's a mid/low tier Code A player.


Someone seems upset that Mvp didn't win GSL October :p


What? Did i phrase that wrong, or did you just not read correctly. MVP is the GSL champ who won a a Championship despite him being inferior in every (mechanical) way to squirtle.


u wot m8

As much as I like Squirtle saying he's mechanicly superior to Mvp in almost every way seems abit silly.


At the time everyone seemed convinced that Squirtle was by far the better player in actual Stacraft 2 " mechanical skill ". It was probably true, but it didn't matter because he was worse at playing a bo7 and worse at winning tournaments.


Ah, this was right after his second place at IPL4 and his pretty sick streak in the GSL right? Makes more sense then, but yeah, beating Mvp in a BO7 is something else.


Yup this was right after Squirtle's breakout performance at IPL4 and he went through that GSL season only losing one map in the ro32, he went undefeated in the ro16 through to the finals.


Nobody slaps down hype like Mvp.


That whole season was just Mvp slapping down hype. First smacking Naniwa in the ro8 in Naniwa's first Code S season, then smacking down Parting who looked unbeatable in PvT and said in his interview he would 3-0 Mvp, then slapping down the undefeated Squirtle.

Damn, that was a good GSL season.


Agreed, my favorite one ever in fact. I liked the overall story of the three best protoss players in the world at the time (Parting, HerO, Squirtle) making it to the semifinals convincingly and then Mvp winning. He even killed the overall protoss hype.
Hell, he killed the hype of Squirtle's amazing comeback with an 11/11 that failed and then still worked.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#624
On June 28 2013 20:52 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:50 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:41 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:35 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:33 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
[quote]

But still, he had solid mechanics as well, and terran is mostly for the mechanically good people, even Innovation admits he doesn't have a very strategic mind, he simply wins on macro and mechanics alone.


Actually Terran is the only race that gave us a GSL-Champion who was totally inferior mechanically to his opponent. MVP says Hi. But yeah. of course he had good mechanics. He still is decent. But since Boxer is gone he's a mid/low tier Code A player.


Someone seems upset that Mvp didn't win GSL October :p


What? Did i phrase that wrong, or did you just not read correctly. MVP is the GSL champ who won a a Championship despite him being inferior in every (mechanical) way to squirtle.


u wot m8

As much as I like Squirtle saying he's mechanicly superior to Mvp in almost every way seems abit silly.


At the time everyone seemed convinced that Squirtle was by far the better player in actual Stacraft 2 " mechanical skill ". It was probably true, but it didn't matter because he was worse at playing a bo7 and worse at winning tournaments.


Ah, this was right after his second place at IPL4 and his pretty sick streak in the GSL right? Makes more sense then, but yeah, beating Mvp in a BO7 is something else.


Yup this was right after Squirtle's breakout performance at IPL4 and he went through that GSL season only losing one map in the ro32, he went undefeated in the ro16 through to the finals.


Nobody slaps down hype like Mvp.


That whole season was just Mvp slapping down hype. First smacking Naniwa in the ro8 in Naniwa's first Code S season, then smacking down Parting who looked unbeatable in PvT and said in his interview he would 3-0 Mvp, then slapping down the undefeated Squirtle.

Damn, that was a good GSL season.


Not to forget the reaction of Mvp after winning <3
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#625
On June 28 2013 20:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck


Ryung TvP T_T;;

TB will usually pop into threads to crow about how ryung's tvp is his best matchup, i don't think it's his weakest anymore


Well he did take HerO to a game 5 recently but watching him play both vs Tassadar (that near-throw) and vs Mad Bull... I don't know Kev it's looking not so hot ;;
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 28 2013 11:55 GMT
#626
MMA's been playing well in the Acer cup lately. I think (hope) he takes it.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 28 2013 11:55 GMT
#627
On June 28 2013 20:51 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck

Team Jjakji becomes a whole different beast when their ace plays well.

His lieutenant Madbull does count too !
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
June 28 2013 11:55 GMT
#628
On June 28 2013 20:52 Paljas wrote:
who is this jjakji guy?
he seems pretty good


Dunno must be a new acquisition by NSH but I agree he is really good.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 28 2013 11:56 GMT
#629
Scarlett lost? Aw
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 28 2013 11:56 GMT
#630
when will the Hellvac bbq party stop double or quad hellvac ? x3

hope MMA will do an hellion runby before hellbats can hit and then just defend. Or don't go for orbitals and everytime hellbat comes load in 15 workers into the ccs and laugh.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 28 2013 11:56 GMT
#631
I have a feeling MMA will win this.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 28 2013 11:56 GMT
#632
On June 28 2013 20:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck


Ryung TvP T_T;;

TB will usually pop into threads to crow about how ryung's tvp is his best matchup, i don't think it's his weakest anymore

Isn't RyungvT like super gosu... his tvz is not bad at all either, so i still think tvp is shit for ryung, just not as shitty as we think.
The Bomber boy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 28 2013 11:57 GMT
#633
On June 28 2013 20:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:53 opterown wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck


Ryung TvP T_T;;

TB will usually pop into threads to crow about how ryung's tvp is his best matchup, i don't think it's his weakest anymore


Well he did take HerO to a game 5 recently but watching him play both vs Tassadar (that near-throw) and vs Mad Bull... I don't know Kev it's looking not so hot ;;

Maybe ryung just has a hidden weakness vs hoseo protosses.
Glorious SEA doto
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 28 2013 11:57 GMT
#634
jjakjis chance to have more wins than madbull
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 28 2013 11:57 GMT
#635
On June 28 2013 20:54 Bam Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:50 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:41 VmY wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:35 Bagration wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:33 robson1 wrote:
[quote]

Actually Terran is the only race that gave us a GSL-Champion who was totally inferior mechanically to his opponent. MVP says Hi. But yeah. of course he had good mechanics. He still is decent. But since Boxer is gone he's a mid/low tier Code A player.


Someone seems upset that Mvp didn't win GSL October :p


What? Did i phrase that wrong, or did you just not read correctly. MVP is the GSL champ who won a a Championship despite him being inferior in every (mechanical) way to squirtle.


u wot m8

As much as I like Squirtle saying he's mechanicly superior to Mvp in almost every way seems abit silly.


At the time everyone seemed convinced that Squirtle was by far the better player in actual Stacraft 2 " mechanical skill ". It was probably true, but it didn't matter because he was worse at playing a bo7 and worse at winning tournaments.


Ah, this was right after his second place at IPL4 and his pretty sick streak in the GSL right? Makes more sense then, but yeah, beating Mvp in a BO7 is something else.


Yup this was right after Squirtle's breakout performance at IPL4 and he went through that GSL season only losing one map in the ro32, he went undefeated in the ro16 through to the finals.


Nobody slaps down hype like Mvp.


That whole season was just Mvp slapping down hype. First smacking Naniwa in the ro8 in Naniwa's first Code S season, then smacking down Parting who looked unbeatable in PvT and said in his interview he would 3-0 Mvp, then slapping down the undefeated Squirtle.

Damn, that was a good GSL season.


Not to forget the reaction of Mvp after winning <3



MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 28 2013 11:58 GMT
#636
On June 28 2013 20:56 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:53 opterown wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck


Ryung TvP T_T;;

TB will usually pop into threads to crow about how ryung's tvp is his best matchup, i don't think it's his weakest anymore

Isn't RyungvT like super gosu... his tvz is not bad at all either, so i still think tvp is shit for ryung, just not as shitty as we think.


Yeah, his TvT and TvZ have been top notch all the way back to the early 2011 SlayerS days... still are.

His TvP may not be as weak as SlayerS players typically were back in the day, but it's far from his best.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
June 28 2013 11:58 GMT
#637
How is that map called?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
June 28 2013 11:58 GMT
#638
On June 28 2013 20:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:56 Wintex wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:53 opterown wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 28 2013 20:48 Bagration wrote:
I can't believe AxiomAcer allowed NSH to force an ace match. What the fuck


Ryung TvP T_T;;

TB will usually pop into threads to crow about how ryung's tvp is his best matchup, i don't think it's his weakest anymore

Isn't RyungvT like super gosu... his tvz is not bad at all either, so i still think tvp is shit for ryung, just not as shitty as we think.


Yeah, his TvT and TvZ have been top notch all the way back to the early 2011 SlayerS days... still are.

His TvP may not be as weak as SlayerS players typically were back in the day, but it's far from his best.


I love how Slayers was collectively terrible against protoss and Puzzle was like the best PvTer of his time
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 28 2013 11:59 GMT
#639
On June 28 2013 20:58 krutopatkin wrote:
How is that map called?


DMZ
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
June 28 2013 11:59 GMT
#640
Widow mine good unit
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