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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#621
On June 25 2013 18:57 Big J wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:56 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:55 KingofGods wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch



Fantasy's hellbat drops did virtually nothing this game.......


Tsubbi always cries every time a Zerg playes. Nothing but informed tears from that guy.


10workers killed, spines forced, some zerglings killed, spire rush scouted...

Those drops broke more than even.


God beware Zerg has to actually do something instead of only droning now. Jesus. If you hate hellbat drops so much, you can hit him so hard with a queen defence and good roach/bane. Hellbat players don't have tons of defence at home and hellbats don't defend roach/bane that well to be honest. Depends on the game and timing, but when you cannot hit Zergs economy while the bust occurs, you might lose right there.

"Lots" of queens are also very good against hellbats in the defence, as they can shoot down the medivac pretty quick. Also, seems like mines were more problematic to Life.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#622
sorry but Fantasy was better than Stork
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:01:49
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#623
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#624
fanta's macro was awful. floating resources, idle scvs, supply blocked, etc
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#625
On June 25 2013 18:59 panzercrusher wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time

NaDa.

remember fantasy can't bio



Poor Fantasy..
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My favorite one is the one where Flash proposes to make Engineering Bays to counter Broodlings
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#626
On June 25 2013 19:00 packrat386 wrote:
btw, how is my live reporting. Is there any information that you think I should focus on more or less?

Really good. I always glance over it even though I am also watching the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#627
On June 25 2013 18:59 Dodgin wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.


Don't insult Sjow please, he is a god.

Sjow has really good micro to be fair. If he was quicker and could fit the perfect macro people can showcase in between his actions he could be the reckoning.
The Bomber boy
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#628
On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.

haha yeah...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#629
On June 25 2013 18:59 bo1b wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:56 Ysellian wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Zenbrez wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch

Hellbats doing 0 damage is painful to watch?


How is 10 drones + 2 spines 0 damage?

When people say 0 damage they generally mean not enough damage. It could be argued that 6 hellbats and 3 medivacs isn't worth 10 drones and 2 spines.


It could also be argued that 10drones +2spines in a 2base vs 2base TvZ situation is pretty awesome.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 25 2013 10:01 GMT
#630
On June 25 2013 18:59 sitromit wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive.......


Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame?
I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do.

It's Roach/Bane bust or lose.

TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts.


Lots of wins from Innovation and Flash though.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#631
On June 25 2013 19:00 trifecta wrote:
fanta's macro was awful. floating resources, idle scvs, supply blocked, etc


eh, still won.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#632
On June 25 2013 19:00 xuanzue wrote:
if ST renewed contract with life by a large sum (like is speculated) redbull must be full of regret.


Everyone has slumps. Not to mention the transition from one game to another is harder on some than others.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#633
Woohoo fantasy won against life
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#634
On June 25 2013 18:58 TheDwf wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 packrat386 wrote:
fuck me. I wish life and my other favorite zergs would learn how to transition out of mutas. Widow mines are too strong for you to stay on them forever.

Late game zerg is bad vs T


No it isnt.

Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level)

Ultralisks are bad against Terrans??


Against Bio-Mine they would be great - the problem is the constant pressure a Terran can put on you with this composition, you can't possibly transition out of Muta-ling or you might lose a pretty damn important engagement.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#635
On June 25 2013 18:55 Vash_SC2 wrote:
The no micro unit wins again.

On June 25 2013 18:54 Espelz wrote:
I love how Fantasy just stopped the widow mine in that last drop from attacking until the mutalisks arrived oO.


Funny to read these on the same page.
The heart's eternal vow
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#636
On June 25 2013 19:00 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:57 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:55 KingofGods wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch



Fantasy's hellbat drops did virtually nothing this game.......


Tsubbi always cries every time a Zerg playes. Nothing but informed tears from that guy.


10workers killed, spines forced, some zerglings killed, spire rush scouted...

Those drops broke more than even.


God beware Zerg has to actually do something instead of only droning now. Jesus. If you hate hellbat drops so much, you can hit him so hard with a queen defence and good roach/bane. Hellbat players don't have tons of defence at home and hellbats don't defend roach/bane that well to be honest. Depends on the game and timing, but when you cannot hit Zergs economy while the bust occurs, you might lose right there.

"Lots" of queens are also very good against hellbats in the defence, as they can shoot down the medivac pretty quick. Also, seems like mines were more problematic to Life.


That seems like a very unfair tradeoff.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
June 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#637
Don't talk about roaches please...i think the R-button is missing from Lifes keyboard...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:03 GMT
#638
On June 25 2013 19:00 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.


I'll agree on the fact that drilling claws is too good, but the mines itself no

Yeah, by far. Mines need their punch to stay intact, but their speed with the upgrade just feels off.
The Bomber boy
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
June 25 2013 10:03 GMT
#639
On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.

It's pretty equivalent to the Enduring Locust upgrade. Both are rather fair.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
June 25 2013 10:03 GMT
#640
The immortal doesnt kills SCVs on 2 shots. Tasteless...WAKE UP MAN!
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