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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#601
On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 packrat386 wrote:
fuck me. I wish life and my other favorite zergs would learn how to transition out of mutas. Widow mines are too strong for you to stay on them forever.

Late game zerg is bad vs T


No it isnt.

Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level)

Between you and the guy whining about hellbats I just can't stomach this thread any more.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 09:59:33
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#602
On June 25 2013 18:56 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:56 Zenbrez wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch

Hellbats doing 0 damage is painful to watch?


How is 10 drones + 2 spines 0 damage?

..Okay, so he killed 10 drones. He lost over 800 minerals (and 200-300 gas) worth of his own units.
Refer to my post.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#603
On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 packrat386 wrote:
fuck me. I wish life and my other favorite zergs would learn how to transition out of mutas. Widow mines are too strong for you to stay on them forever.

Late game zerg is bad vs T


No it isnt.

Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level)


Yeah okey bro, thats why terrans get rolled alot of high level games too right vs Z. Watch more games.
Jaedong & Faker
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#604
action packed game! I thought balance was bannable in LR though? That's why I don't do it! :O

Excited for BW finals rematch!! Don't know who to root for though ;_;

KT FlaSh FOREVER
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#605
On June 25 2013 18:56 sibs wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:55 Ctesias wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch


That game was decided by hellbats?


he did that build BECAUSE of hellbat drops. didn't work though, was still far behind.

you can stay on ling/bling vs hellbats so he rushed for mutas instead of roaches.

yes hellbats affected that game a lot.


Life went for 2 base muta because he's a super aggressive player. The build has been a staple of his since he showed up (my friends and I used to call him ST_2basemuta because it was all he did). I think he thought it was a nice counter to hellbat drops (which it was) but he was going to do that kind of shit anyway. Also its not like the early game lost him the game, he got behind later on when he couldn't break the base and wouldn't transition out of mutas.
dreaming of a sunny day
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#606
On June 25 2013 18:56 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:56 Zenbrez wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch

Hellbats doing 0 damage is painful to watch?


How is 10 drones + 2 spines 0 damage?

When people say 0 damage they generally mean not enough damage. It could be argued that 6 hellbats and 3 medivacs isn't worth 10 drones and 2 spines.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#607
People focus way too much on Fantasy's floating minerals mid -> late game. He still won and prioritizes micro/multitask over having a few extra marines in pushes that almost always get wiped out anyway.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#608
Life had this game in the bag. He made a superhuge mistake and lost the game for himself.
I had a good night of sleep.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#609
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.
The Bomber boy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#610
On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.


Don't insult Sjow please, he is a god.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#611
No matter how fast these players are they always have to prioritize one thing over another. Fantasy just so happens to prioritize micro over macro.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 25 2013 09:59 GMT
#612
On June 25 2013 18:54 Swisslink wrote:
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On June 25 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Life is WAAAAY too overaggressive.......


Well, is there a Zerg who wins against Terran lategame?
I haven't seen one for quite a while. Which is the reason why everyone plays as aggressive as they do.

It's Roach/Bane bust or lose.

TvZ is approaching 70% this season for Terran. In PL it's over 60% the last 3 rounds, and this with all the early busts.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#613
On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.


EU holdz strong my friend! Our walls are thick and towers are high
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Vash_SC2
Profile Joined January 2012
United States122 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#614
On June 25 2013 18:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:58 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Thinasy wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:56 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 packrat386 wrote:
fuck me. I wish life and my other favorite zergs would learn how to transition out of mutas. Widow mines are too strong for you to stay on them forever.

Late game zerg is bad vs T


No it isnt.

Let me rephrase, Tier 3 is bad against Terran. (At high level, not your level)

Ultralisks are bad against Terrans??

Kespa Terrans seem to understand that. Soulkey understands it, so does life. Roach bane only way to beat Kespa Terrans,
"Own-ed" - CatZ
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#615
On June 25 2013 18:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:55 YourHarry wrote:
maybe life was only really good before the near completion of kespa take over


Life needs to bow to the superior kespa macro

yeah man, Fantasy's macro is so good he has 2k minerals most of the game and still wins
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#616
On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.


I'll agree on the fact that drilling claws is too good, but the mines itself no
Jaedong & Faker
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#617
On June 25 2013 18:56 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:56 Zenbrez wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Tsubbi wrote:
when is the fucking hellbat nerf live this is so painful to watch

Hellbats doing 0 damage is painful to watch?


How is 10 drones + 2 spines 0 damage?

They were not cost effective.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:01:18
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#618
On June 25 2013 18:58 YourHarry wrote:
Esf player A loses to kespa player B. Find the weakest player (foreigner preferred) C that had beat A. Dismiss player B to be as bad as C.

Nevermind, I probably didn't understand the post.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#619
btw, how is my live reporting. Is there any information that you think I should focus on more or less?
dreaming of a sunny day
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 25 2013 10:00 GMT
#620
if ST renewed contract with life by a large sum (like is speculated) redbull must be full of regret.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
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