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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 23 2013 00:31 GMT
#321
That stare of death
Neosteel Enthusiast
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#322
Those little player cams are really cool.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
June 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#323
More warp zealoting was definitely the answer there.

So funny to hear production telling the translator what to say!
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#324
grubby should take his last match i think.. the only surprise is vibe getting 4th (losing to kane) in his group!
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#325
On June 23 2013 09:29 Shantastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:22 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:15 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:13 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it.


Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Thanks!!

I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/


Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind.


It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal


saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.

I think respecting the player and their wishes/identity is the more important issue here. Inconvenience isn't exactly a great excuse.


The best compromise would probably be to say " Puck's X " for everything, puck's army, puck's reinforcements etc. I doubt the casters have any idea that they're doing anything wrong, if it makes puck uncomfortable then puck can inform them. It's not too difficult since they're playing on location in the same building.

puCK probably didn't hear any of it, and I totally agree that I think the casters don't know, but I think they should be aware of these things for the sake of anyone watching who is genderqueer and might feel uncomfortable 'cause of it.

I just don't understand how anyone would be uncomfortable with it. I mean it's not like they are saying it to be dicks. His gender is at best quite confusing atm, I'd expect people that are confident enough with themselves to actually change gender, to be able to handle a slight mistake like this, especially when they themselves are unsure.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
June 23 2013 00:35 GMT
#326
On June 23 2013 09:33 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:29 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:22 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:15 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:13 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:
[quote]

Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Thanks!!

I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/


Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind.


It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal


saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.

I think respecting the player and their wishes/identity is the more important issue here. Inconvenience isn't exactly a great excuse.


The best compromise would probably be to say " Puck's X " for everything, puck's army, puck's reinforcements etc. I doubt the casters have any idea that they're doing anything wrong, if it makes puck uncomfortable then puck can inform them. It's not too difficult since they're playing on location in the same building.

puCK probably didn't hear any of it, and I totally agree that I think the casters don't know, but I think they should be aware of these things for the sake of anyone watching who is genderqueer and might feel uncomfortable 'cause of it.

I just don't understand how anyone would be uncomfortable with it. I mean it's not like they are saying it to be dicks. His gender is at best quite confusing atm, I'd expect people that are confident enough with themselves to actually change gender, to be able to handle a slight mistake like this, especially when they themselves are unsure.


dude people can get offended by the most minor of things


like they said

" sticks and stones and nuclear warheads might incinerate me but words will hurt my fragile feelings forever"
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#327
Surely D9 is bullshitting? People aren't actually changing hotkeys/control groups just to be unknown...?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:42:51
June 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#328
Competitive warcraft one haha, press M to move every time

edit: Grubby takes preparation really serious lol
Neosteel Enthusiast
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#329
On June 23 2013 09:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Competitive warcraft one haha, press M to move every time

edit: Grubby takes preparation really serious lol


He's a weathered war veteran.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:53:40
June 23 2013 00:52 GMT
#330
Hmmm will be tough for Grubby when 2/2 finishes for Kane

Oh well nvm
Neosteel Enthusiast
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 23 2013 00:53 GMT
#331
On June 23 2013 09:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmmm will be tough for Grubby when 2/2 finishes for Kane


you underestimate zealots and FF.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#332
On June 23 2013 09:53 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmmm will be tough for Grubby when 2/2 finishes for Kane


you underestimate zealots and FF.

Also the +2 armor for slings doesn't really change anything against zlots, it's still going to be 3 hits.
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
June 23 2013 00:59 GMT
#333
On June 23 2013 09:55 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:53 vult wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmmm will be tough for Grubby when 2/2 finishes for Kane


you underestimate zealots and FF.

Also the +2 armor for slings doesn't really change anything against zlots, it's still going to be 3 hits.

I think it's more about how well melee upgrades scale with lings' sick attack speed, which is why 2-2 lings make really short work of zealots with decent surface area. Those last forcefields were really the margin.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 23 2013 01:06 GMT
#334
On June 23 2013 09:55 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:53 vult wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmmm will be tough for Grubby when 2/2 finishes for Kane


you underestimate zealots and FF.

Also the +2 armor for slings doesn't really change anything against zlots, it's still going to be 3 hits.


depends, +0 Zealots do 12 damage in that case. So if you micro a little so the lings regen 1.1 hitpoints they would take 4 hits.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 23 2013 01:06 GMT
#335
Ugh, Mutalisks.
KT best KT ~ 2014
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 23 2013 01:07 GMT
#336
Why recall when you have immortals in the enemy base? Immortals melt buildings so fast
Neosteel Enthusiast
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 23 2013 01:08 GMT
#337
Mutas and basetrades?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 23 2013 01:11 GMT
#338
mass muta wayyyy too good vs protoss.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 23 2013 01:12 GMT
#339
Loved the previous game at the end when Husky went with his standard blooper - "Those Lings are not dying" Meanwhile every ling die without killing a unit. LOL
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 01:13:53
June 23 2013 01:12 GMT
#340
I feel a little bad for Grubby here. He seemed well ahead after sniping the third but probably should have committed to the basetrade rather than recalling back to his third. That gave Kane time to build up this enormous number of Mutalisks.
KT best KT ~ 2014
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