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On June 23 2013 09:09 imallinson wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ English is super difficult to not sound weird without pronouns.
Yeah I think it would be really awkward to try to cast a game without using pronouns when the use of them is so ingrained into your regular casting style.
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On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind.
It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal
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On June 23 2013 09:09 imallinson wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ English is super difficult to not sound weird without pronouns.
To the best of my knowledge, "they/them" is the best in cases like this.
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On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind. It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal
saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.
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On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind. It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal
They in a multiplayer game would confuse the crap out of viewers, especially in a mirror matchup.
Also, I really don't like when casters use terms or phrases like "the Protoss player, our blue protoss, etc.". It's kind of annoying. and not using pronouns would make this more of a go-to sentence filler.
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dropping the robo before the nexus, he did that all three games mr bitter....
and we dont get production tab...wtf
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On June 23 2013 08:54 Corsica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:51 Zenbrez wrote:On June 23 2013 08:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On June 23 2013 08:38 kollin wrote:
Oh yeah I forgot about that HSC, where he came out of nowhere and beat the shit out of everyone. Btw can someone explain to me this tournament's format, I don't understand why some matches are bo3, some are bo5 and some seem to just be a random number in between. They play 3 matches. So even if someone wins 2-0, they'll still play the third match, and each win is worth 100$ also This is the more appropriate way to describe it. It's not a "best of 3", because that implies the match ends if someone goes 2-0. It's not a "best of" anything, they just play 3 games, that's it.
Oh wow... so BM!
DeMuslim doesn't usually do that before the final game of the series. Forgetting his English Manners.
Seems appropriate, given Puck's level of BM I love how you bash your respective countrymen. Thats diplomatic level of manners.
I don't see the problem. Can't tell if serious.
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On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim
Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting.
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Stop talking about pronouns
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On June 23 2013 09:13 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:54 Corsica wrote:On June 23 2013 08:51 Zenbrez wrote:On June 23 2013 08:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On June 23 2013 08:38 kollin wrote:
Oh yeah I forgot about that HSC, where he came out of nowhere and beat the shit out of everyone. Btw can someone explain to me this tournament's format, I don't understand why some matches are bo3, some are bo5 and some seem to just be a random number in between. They play 3 matches. So even if someone wins 2-0, they'll still play the third match, and each win is worth 100$ also This is the more appropriate way to describe it. It's not a "best of 3", because that implies the match ends if someone goes 2-0. It's not a "best of" anything, they just play 3 games, that's it.
Oh wow... so BM!
DeMuslim doesn't usually do that before the final game of the series. Forgetting his English Manners.
Seems appropriate, given Puck's level of BM I love how you bash your respective countrymen. Thats diplomatic level of manners. I don't see the problem. Can't tell if serious.
not at all 
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On June 23 2013 09:14 Corsica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting.
So only Korean Protosses are smart protosses? 
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And if you say 'it' that seems to make people furious so... I say tie goes to the genitalia
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On June 23 2013 09:13 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. + Show Spoiler + Thanks!! I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/ Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind. It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.
I think respecting the player and their wishes/identity is the more important issue here. Inconvenience isn't exactly a great excuse.
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On June 23 2013 09:15 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:14 Corsica wrote:On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting. So only Korean Protosses are smart protosses?
no, but i would say smartest. Most builds are designed in Korea. Also forgot Creator, i remember Artosis saying how he figured out perfect unit ratio for PvZ + his double forge play is showing of his intelligence.
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On June 23 2013 09:17 Corsica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:15 vult wrote:On June 23 2013 09:14 Corsica wrote:On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting. So only Korean Protosses are smart protosses? no, but i would say smartest. Most builds are designed in Korea. Also forgot Creator, i remember Artosis saying how he figured out perfect unit ratio for PvZ + his double forge play is showing of his intelligence.
Well yeah , I consider Creator the smartest protoss. God, every protoss used his +3 armor 2 colossus push for a little while.
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On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago? Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it. Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/05hegz4.jpg)
So if you dont refer to someone as gender you would have to use "it"?
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On June 23 2013 08:51 sorrowptoss wrote:
Demuslim looks like he's in great shape, I'm really glad, seeing that he practices a lot and streams while he's at it. I'm such a fanboy of his TvP play. What a cool guy.
Its so inspiring too! You cripple protoss with small efficient trades harassing at 2-3 places while backing it up with strong macro behind, and at the end you attack with 20-30 supply more!
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YEE huge snipes by demuslim.
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Puck losing all of his HT's there. ouch.
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