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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:23:11
June 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#301
On June 23 2013 09:15 Shantastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:13 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago?


Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it.


Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Thanks!!

I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/


Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind.


It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal


saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.

I think respecting the player and their wishes/identity is the more important issue here. Inconvenience isn't exactly a great excuse.


The best compromise would probably be to say " Puck's X " for everything, puck's army, puck's reinforcements etc. I doubt the casters have any idea that they're doing anything wrong, if it makes puck uncomfortable then puck can inform them. It's not too difficult since they're playing on location in the same building.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 23 2013 00:23 GMT
#302
its funny how puck lost all his stormers just by 1aing them in Demu's bio
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#303
Puck forgot colossi range :\
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27371 Posts
June 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#304
On June 23 2013 09:18 vult wrote:
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On June 23 2013 09:17 Corsica wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:15 vult wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:14 Corsica wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim



Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting.


So only Korean Protosses are smart protosses?



no, but i would say smartest. Most builds are designed in Korea. Also forgot Creator, i remember Artosis saying how he figured out perfect unit ratio for PvZ + his double forge play is showing of his intelligence.


Well yeah , I consider Creator the smartest protoss. God, every protoss used his +3 armor 2 colossus push for a little while.

One build wonder

Weird that Creator has fallen off in all seriousness, his defensive solidity was really impressive and I thought HoTS would have given him the tools to prosper
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#305
GGs nice manners! All is good
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#306
On June 23 2013 09:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:18 vult wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:17 Corsica wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:15 vult wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:14 Corsica wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:09 ImperialFist wrote:
hurts my butt when i see someone with puck's mechanics beat demuslim



Exactly that, its not about balance, but the easier mechanics that protoss provides. I remember watching puck stream and see him go 1a get all of his templars sniped and then complain. It seems like Protoss has it easy with people who have inferior mechanics, but seems to reward player with good game understanding. Usually we hear 'smart' referred to protoss players like Squirtle, Puzzle, Yonghwa, Rain, Parting.


So only Korean Protosses are smart protosses?



no, but i would say smartest. Most builds are designed in Korea. Also forgot Creator, i remember Artosis saying how he figured out perfect unit ratio for PvZ + his double forge play is showing of his intelligence.


Well yeah , I consider Creator the smartest protoss. God, every protoss used his +3 armor 2 colossus push for a little while.

One build wonder

Weird that Creator has fallen off in all seriousness, his defensive solidity was really impressive and I thought HoTS would have given him the tools to prosper


I think we will see him more, all of the Prime not doing good. Once they get their old spirit back they ll come back
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#307
DANGER ZONE! XD
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#308
Well i like TvT but i hate that it decreases chance of Terran winning.

Will be cool match!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#309
Those shades hahaha
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#310
HAHA GOLDEN. So fly.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
June 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#311
On June 23 2013 08:35 kollin wrote:
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On June 23 2013 08:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:18 kckkryptonite wrote:
Code B Koreans mopping it up I see


Sound was Code A last season and Golden is currently Code A ;o

Sound also all killed NSH I think.


Hasn't everyone all killed NSH?
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#312
On June 23 2013 09:27 kckkryptonite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:35 kollin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:18 kckkryptonite wrote:
Code B Koreans mopping it up I see


Sound was Code A last season and Golden is currently Code A ;o

Sound also all killed NSH I think.


Hasn't everyone all killed NSH?


Prime lost to NSH
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#313
LOOOL! Golden and Sound are so good.
The Bomber boy
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#314
On June 23 2013 09:27 kckkryptonite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:35 kollin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:18 kckkryptonite wrote:
Code B Koreans mopping it up I see


Sound was Code A last season and Golden is currently Code A ;o

Sound also all killed NSH I think.


Hasn't everyone all killed NSH?


including NSHS all-killing themselves
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#315
lol this is so funny xDD
Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#316
guess if demu can get that "taeja vision" and spots the observers so he can scan snipe them to avoid the drop plans been spoiled all the time he would be even better
Frionel
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain12 Posts
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#317
anyone know the brand of those glasses?
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#318
I hope someone mentions to Demu to check for observers before loading medivacs. For someone that wants to outmicro his opponent, not giving this kind of information freely to his opponent is huge(esp since demu prefers to split against early engagement storms instead of using ghosts).
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#319
swag team golden/sound
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:34:56
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#320
On June 23 2013 09:22 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:15 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:13 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:10 Empirimancer wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:06 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:04 Shantastic wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:01 Dodgin wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:59 Shantastic wrote:
Why is Bitter referring to puCK as "he/him"? Didn't she come out as MtF months ago?


Puck took that back, I can't blame anyone for not knowing what puck identifies as because he/she keeps changing his/her mind and puck isn't a prominent enough player for everyone to pay close attention to it.


Can you link that please? I have yet to see any evidence of that, unless you mean her switching her name back to puCK which means nothing. Everyone in fanclub and at ROOT still refers to her as "her" as far as I can see.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Thanks!!

I wish Bitter would avoid the pronouns then, I guess he doesn't know :/


Come on, it's extremely annoying to have to avoid using he/she and him/her, and actually impossible to avoid using his/her, short of reformulating your whole sentences. It's not Bitter's fault Puck can't make up his mind.


It's pretty easy, just say 'they are' or 'they have' all the time and its contractions. No big deal


saying " they " doesn't work in a 1v1 starcraft match when attempting to refer to one person, it would sound extremely awkward.

I think respecting the player and their wishes/identity is the more important issue here. Inconvenience isn't exactly a great excuse.


The best compromise would probably be to say " Puck's X " for everything, puck's army, puck's reinforcements etc. I doubt the casters have any idea that they're doing anything wrong, if it makes puck uncomfortable then puck can inform them. It's not too difficult since they're playing on location in the same building.

puCK probably didn't hear any of it, and I totally agree that I think the casters don't know, but I think they should be aware of these things for the sake of anyone watching who is genderqueer and might feel uncomfortable 'cause of it.

EDIT: Sorry, just wanted to point it out; won't derail the thread with this anymore, now that the match is over.
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