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Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
June 17 2013 08:12 GMT
#241
omgggg Fantasy
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 08:13:34
June 17 2013 08:12 GMT
#242
On June 17 2013 17:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:58 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:51 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.


Ah, thanks. It must suck to play a whole new game and realise you may not have the skill-set to play it well. His blink Stalker micro seemed alright, except that Stalkers suck against Hydras (and in this game were not even upgraded). Being calm and being able to think are facets of all good Protoss players. So, yes, perhaps he should try to play passive Protoss style.

I'd say it's actually a bit sad on the design side of SC2. Moreso in HotS, where Blizzard repeatedly stated that they are striving to add "microable", aggression/multitasking-oriented units to increase the skill-ceiling, as if micro was the sole determinant of skill.


I'm not sure I get what you mean. Would you care to explain?

SC2 devs are strongly focusing their design updates on the "spectacular" end of the skill spectrum, which requires mad micro and speed, but there is little effort to improve or extend the strategic side of the game. Some players end up at a disadvantage for this.



Thanks for the response. Yes, I suppose that is true. It is regrettable, from both a player and viewer perspective. But, I suppose the inherent design of SC2 does favour speed, mobility and, as you say, mad micro. I doubt it can be changed in any substantive way, even for LOTV. Too many sunk costs and a well furrowed design path to turn back, or even turn aside.
KT best KT ~ 2014
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 17 2013 08:13 GMT
#243
Anyone else is getting the subscribe to proleague overlay on random occasions without switching to a higher quality? :o
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 17 2013 08:13 GMT
#244
What a crazy march.
The heart's eternal vow
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 17 2013 08:13 GMT
#245
On June 17 2013 17:13 FetTerBender wrote:
Anyone else is getting the subscribe to proleague overlay on random occasions without switching to a higher quality? :o


Hit that F5
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
June 17 2013 08:13 GMT
#246
Reality with Fantasy GG timing.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#247
On June 17 2013 17:10 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 17:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 17 2013 17:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 17:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 17 2013 17:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 17:01 Daswollvieh wrote:
Youtube is not working for me, am I doing something wrong?


You can start by explaining whether or not your ID is referring to sheep


Doesn't it mean something like "That's what we want"? I really should get better at German..


Heh, it actually does sound like that when you say it out loud


I thought "woll" was like "wollen." I'll be quiet now :/

In other news, go fanta!


Das Woll-Vieh would be 'The wool-cattle', which could be interpreted as a sheep :D
or you pronounce it slightly different, then it's 'that's what we want' in a dialect


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On June 17 2013 17:09 Daswollvieh wrote:
I guess the youtube stream works everywhere except for Germany. Must be some kind of GEMA bullshit.


http://unblocker.yt/
works for me with Opera and Chrome


Thanks so much! Just in time for the gg!
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#248
YAY WE WILL SEE SOME BISU TONIGHT!!!!!!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#249
Fantasy gaining steam? Been playing pretty well lately.
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#250
Pretty good game, if only afrotoss didn't fail so miserably we should have been able to close it out with Rain's match.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#251
That was an enjoyable game. Well played by Fantasy.
Flash | Mvp
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#252
my FPL points
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#253
On June 17 2013 17:12 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 17:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:58 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:51 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.


Ah, thanks. It must suck to play a whole new game and realise you may not have the skill-set to play it well. His blink Stalker micro seemed alright, except that Stalkers suck against Hydras (and in this game were not even upgraded). Being calm and being able to think are facets of all good Protoss players. So, yes, perhaps he should try to play passive Protoss style.

I'd say it's actually a bit sad on the design side of SC2. Moreso in HotS, where Blizzard repeatedly stated that they are striving to add "microable", aggression/multitasking-oriented units to increase the skill-ceiling, as if micro was the sole determinant of skill.


I'm not sure I get what you mean. Would you care to explain?

SC2 devs are strongly focusing their design updates on the "spectacular" end of the skill spectrum, which requires mad micro and speed, but there is little effort to improve or extend the strategic side of the game. Some players end up at a disadvantage for this.



Thanks for the response. Yes, I suppose that is true. It is regrettable, from both a player and viewer perspective. But, I suppose the inherent design of SC2 does favour speed, mobility and, as you say, mad micro. I doubt it can be changed in any substantive way, even for LOTV. Too many sunk costs and a well furrowed design path to turn back, or even turn aside.


To be fair I think sc2 is actually a less microable game than BW due to the high damage output of units. It's harder to dance forward to take out key units and retreat. It's tougher to micro a smaller army to destroy a bigger one due to death balls and clumping, but also because of the damage thing. Sc2 rather seems to reward perfect timings and compositions.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#254
damn

i guess i'm staying up for bisu
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#255
Poll: Recommend SK Telecom T1 vs Samsung Khan Game 4?

Yes (5)
 
45%

If you have time (5)
 
45%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend SK Telecom T1 vs Samsung Khan Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#256
This next match might be a slaughter
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#257
Such an awesome lineup today. Why so few viewers.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
June 17 2013 08:15 GMT
#258
yes! guarantee bisu
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 17 2013 08:16 GMT
#259
Fantasy looking better and better lately. I guess the last OSL finalists are finally starting to surpass their peers again.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 17 2013 08:16 GMT
#260
I hope Bisu will proxy-gate Jangbi and win.
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