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chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
June 17 2013 07:52 GMT
#201
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.

What is this? Did you really watch Stork playing BW back in the days? Because what you said is flatout wrong.
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
June 17 2013 07:52 GMT
#202
Is this a Fantasy or Reality?
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
June 17 2013 07:52 GMT
#203
On June 17 2013 16:52 poisui wrote:
Is this a Fantasy or Reality?


This will be a match to finally decide the winner. :D
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 17 2013 07:52 GMT
#204
On June 17 2013 16:51 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:46 Alabasern wrote:
Is it ok for me to say today "I wish Sc2 was more like BW!"?

what happened today?


Le birth of life and tragedy! It's a my b-ah day!
Support your esport!
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
June 17 2013 07:53 GMT
#205
On June 17 2013 16:51 Dodgin wrote:
In WoL I was saying " I wish this was more like BW " about 10 times a day, during the infestor/bl era. HotS is pretty good so far but I do wish we had Reavers.

Oh man... I miss so much "Reeeeebooo" screams.
JD is BONJWA!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
June 17 2013 07:53 GMT
#206
On June 17 2013 16:52 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:51 EpiK wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:46 Alabasern wrote:
Is it ok for me to say today "I wish Sc2 was more like BW!"?

what happened today?


Le birth of life and tragedy! It's a my b-ah day!


Congratulations.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
June 17 2013 07:54 GMT
#207
On June 17 2013 16:51 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.


Ah, thanks. It must suck to play a whole new game and realise you may not have the skill-set to play it well. His blink Stalker micro seemed alright, except that Stalkers suck against Hydras (and in this game were not even upgraded). Being calm and being able to think are facets of all good Protoss players. So, yes, perhaps he should try to play passive Protoss style.

I'd say it's actually a bit sad on the design side of SC2. Moreso in HotS, where Blizzard repeatedly stated that they are striving to add "microable", aggression/multitasking-oriented units to increase the skill-ceiling, as if micro was the sole determinant of skill.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 17 2013 07:57 GMT
#208
We'll see who has the better HPM

wish it were close air spawn instead
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 08:06:50
June 17 2013 07:58 GMT
#209
On June 17 2013 16:53 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:52 Alabasern wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:51 EpiK wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:46 Alabasern wrote:
Is it ok for me to say today "I wish Sc2 was more like BW!"?

what happened today?


Le birth of life and tragedy! It's a my b-ah day!


Congratulations.


3 dragons enter the arena... and the great one named "Stork" has become an undead shade of it's former self.
Support your esport!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
June 17 2013 07:58 GMT
#210
How on earth did twitch manage to fall behind again?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 17 2013 07:58 GMT
#211
On June 17 2013 16:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:51 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.


Ah, thanks. It must suck to play a whole new game and realise you may not have the skill-set to play it well. His blink Stalker micro seemed alright, except that Stalkers suck against Hydras (and in this game were not even upgraded). Being calm and being able to think are facets of all good Protoss players. So, yes, perhaps he should try to play passive Protoss style.

I'd say it's actually a bit sad on the design side of SC2. Moreso in HotS, where Blizzard repeatedly stated that they are striving to add "microable", aggression/multitasking-oriented units to increase the skill-ceiling, as if micro was the sole determinant of skill.


I'm not sure I get what you mean. Would you care to explain?
KT best KT ~ 2014
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 17 2013 08:01 GMT
#212
Youtube is not working for me, am I doing something wrong?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
June 17 2013 08:02 GMT
#213
On June 17 2013 17:01 Daswollvieh wrote:
Youtube is not working for me, am I doing something wrong?


You can start by explaining whether or not your ID is referring to sheep
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
June 17 2013 08:02 GMT
#214
On June 17 2013 16:58 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:51 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:47 tl2212 wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:42 aZealot wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:40 Dodgin wrote:
Stork is now officially on the worst losing streak of the 12-13 Proleague season, he edges out Revival's 9 game losing streak with this game to make it 10.

He's 2-12 in HotS.


I never saw him play in BW. So, I don't know if this is how he looks when he is playing, but he looks bored when he is playing SC2. Did he always look like that when playing SC? Maybe SC2 Protoss just does not suit him. :-/

(That, or he is just over SC altogether.)

in bw stork was known for having a very low apm, he would often just mass carriers and proceed to 1a as protoss (which was very viable in bw). his style was not to play very tense and fast , but to be calm and try to think and always make good decisions. in sc2 though you neeeed a high apm to manage your army and macro at the same time.

maybe he should just go for max 200/200 3base protoss style every game instead.


Ah, thanks. It must suck to play a whole new game and realise you may not have the skill-set to play it well. His blink Stalker micro seemed alright, except that Stalkers suck against Hydras (and in this game were not even upgraded). Being calm and being able to think are facets of all good Protoss players. So, yes, perhaps he should try to play passive Protoss style.

I'd say it's actually a bit sad on the design side of SC2. Moreso in HotS, where Blizzard repeatedly stated that they are striving to add "microable", aggression/multitasking-oriented units to increase the skill-ceiling, as if micro was the sole determinant of skill.


I'm not sure I get what you mean. Would you care to explain?


I think I can give you an example: marine-tank-medivac TvT in WoL was all about the decision making, you were playing a game of chess only on a very high speed.
TvT in HotS is hellbat-drops. Hellbat-drops need micro, defending against them in particular needs good and quick micro. But in my opinion it's just a way worse kind of game. I really loved the old TvT because I could out-smart my opponents, now I can only hope that I see the medivacs in time, there is not much thinking involved
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 17 2013 08:02 GMT
#215
The youtubestream is not avaliable for me... What am I doing wrong. I've been able to watch youtube streams all the time...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 17 2013 08:03 GMT
#216
TvT is basically macroing while hellbat dropping

ugh
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 17 2013 08:03 GMT
#217
Youtube so far ahead
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
June 17 2013 08:03 GMT
#218
On June 17 2013 17:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 17:01 Daswollvieh wrote:
Youtube is not working for me, am I doing something wrong?


You can start by explaining whether or not your ID is referring to sheep


Doesn't it mean something like "That's what we want"? I really should get better at German..
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2624 Posts
June 17 2013 08:03 GMT
#219
Just realized taht this was Fantasy vs Reality.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
June 17 2013 08:04 GMT
#220
Reality and fantasy are both filled with hellbats.
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