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slowbacontron
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e8Wd0.png) Saturday, May 11 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_5 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/3/30/Writers_Icon.png/15px-Writers_Icon.png){kind=icon} ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) twitch.tv | youtube | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/36/Kr.png) youtube![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L5xSY.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LBr19.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KSnJ5.png)  Revival <Akilon Wastes> EffOrt<Naro Station> <New Fighting Spirit> <Korhal Floating Island> <Bel'Shir Vestige> <Whirlwind> <Neo Planet S> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall Results] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) + Show Spoiler + Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5 Game 6 Game 7 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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slowbacontron
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Poll: Head? CJ Entus (13) EG-TL (8) 21 total votes Your vote: Head? Poll: Heart? EG-TL (17) CJ Entus (7) 24 total votes Your vote: Heart? Poll: How close will it be? EG-TL ekes it out! (5) CJ Entus ekes it out! (5) CJ Entus dominates! (3) EG-TL dominates! (2) 15 total votes Your vote: How close will it be? (Vote): EG-TL dominates! QUIZ OF THE DAY! Which progamer won the first ace match of a Proleague final? + Show Spoiler + iloveoov. What a beast (or gorilla)! | ||
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StyLeD
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edit: Also, I noticed there are no more foreigners in the GSL. That blows  | ||
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Dodgin
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On May 11 2013 14:54 Empirimancer wrote: So, does EGTL still have a chance at making the playoffs or is it over? It's not mathematically over, but It's over. | ||
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Daralii
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On May 11 2013 14:53 StyLeD wrote: Soo....I haven't watched an SC2 game since HoTS was released....do foreign teams still suck? edit: Also, I noticed there are no more foreigners in the GSL. That blows Pretty much. EGTL was something like 0-12 before getting Coach Park, and they still aren't doing very well. | ||
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slowbacontron
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Arceus
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On May 11 2013 14:55 Daralii wrote: Pretty much. EGTL was something like 0-12 before getting Coach Park, and they still aren't doing very well. 3-4, 3-4, 1-6, 3-4, 0-1 The last two round is with Coach Park | ||
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LegalLord
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On May 11 2013 14:55 Daralii wrote: Pretty much. EGTL was something like 0-12 before getting Coach Park, and they still aren't doing very well. Did you really think that a coach would make all the problems go away instantly? These things take time. | ||
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GTPGlitch
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fixed~ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vSg7d0al.jpg) | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 14:54 Empirimancer wrote: So, does EGTL still have a small chance at making the playoffs or is it over? I think at the end of Round 3 they needed to win 2/3 of the games in the last rounds to qualify for playoffs, at minimum. But they didn't even manage a winning record in R4 I believe so at this point they're basically screwed unless they turn on beast mode and win all their matches for the rest of the season, but even if they make up their match score deficit they'll be screwed in ties because of their terrible map score deficit. But at least they can play for honor or something. Dunno, I feel like at the beginning of R4 things were looking up and then they all decided to play in WCS AM which happens to always be the night before their proleague matches. | ||
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yrt123
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On May 11 2013 14:59 StyLeD wrote: LOL I come back after a year hiatus and EG + TL have teamed up and gotten rid of all their foreigners. What is this impostor team O_O haha the foreigners are still there. Not just in Korea playing in ProLeague. only a couple are over there. HuK Snute and Thorzain are the only ones there now i think. Stephano went for a while | ||
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caradoc
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and who the hell is screwing with the volume levels. o_O | ||
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GTPGlitch
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wasn't paying attention, but from his facebook it seems like he's doing well enough to possibly get sent out ;o | ||
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StyLeD
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On May 11 2013 15:01 yrt123 wrote: haha the foreigners are still there. Not just in Korea playing in ProLeague. only a couple are over there. HuK Snute and Thorzain are the only ones there now i think. Stephano went for a while Thanks for the update. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:00 LegalLord wrote: Did you really think that a coach would make all the problems go away instantly? These things take time. I think at the beginning of Round 4 things were looking like they had turned around completely, but the problem is that EGTL players still seem to put individual leagues before PL, and they also all chose to play in WCS AM so they're up most nights before proleague nights. I guess in the end most of them got into WCS whereas none were in WCS KR besides Taeja, so for their individual careers that's a good thing but for PL it pretty much scuppered their recovery. | ||
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yrt123
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On May 11 2013 15:02 MrMotionPicture wrote: Snute! What a guy I know man. So pretty. The Korean commentators called him Flowerboy someone on stream said. lol | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:03 groms wrote: Did EG get a choice on wcs am vs kr? I feel like they would prob opt for am anyhow but EG prob wanted them in AM too According to TotalBiscuit the players got to choose, and the Axiom players all chose NA despite TB preferring that they stayed in KR. I imagine EGTL was similar, though TB did say that in terms of sponsorship it makes more sense for them to play in AM because that's where their sponsors are. So it's a tricky situation but I guess what happened happened. Since the latter stages of WCS are offline we might see a more permanent Korean presence in NA, which would be pretty good for NA players in the long run IMO. | ||
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ThomasR
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slowbacontron
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LegalLord
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On May 11 2013 15:04 i.of.the.storm wrote: I think at the beginning of Round 4 things were looking like they had turned around completely, but the problem is that EGTL players still seem to put individual leagues before PL, and they also all chose to play in WCS AM so they're up most nights before proleague nights. I guess in the end most of them got into WCS whereas none were in WCS KR besides Taeja, so for their individual careers that's a good thing but for PL it pretty much scuppered their recovery. They scrapped together a few wins at the beginning of R4, but they never looked particularly dominant. I think the rest of the league just started to take them more seriously, and the initial excitement died down somewhat. It'll still get better, just not instantly. Foreigners are quite tricky to deal with and there are a lot of self-inflicted problems that need to be repaired. | ||
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GTPGlitch
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On May 11 2013 15:07 BisuDagger wrote: TY thread. CJ fighting. Suddenly I don't hate hero's stupid grin when he wins because they aren't #1 in the league lol. smile toss has the qt-est smile how could you hate him | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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BisuDagger
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On May 11 2013 15:08 GTPGlitch wrote: smile toss has the qt-est smile how could you hate him Because I'm bitter about the hybrid proleague still | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 11 2013 15:11 i.of.the.storm wrote: Nah, still boned lol. What he's done so far is still impressive to still be alive. Effort with some poor decision making though. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:08 LegalLord wrote: They scrapped together a few wins at the beginning of R4, but they never looked particularly dominant. I think the rest of the league just started to take them more seriously, and the initial excitement died down somewhat. It'll still get better, just not instantly. Foreigners are quite tricky to deal with and there are a lot of self-inflicted problems that need to be repaired. Well, they scrapped together wins against the #1 and #3 teams so that was pretty significant IMO, but they fell apart again after that. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:12 BisuDagger wrote: What he's done so far is still impressive to still be alive. Effort with some poor decision making though. Yeah, his micro was pretty amazing but when his natural went down it was over. Edit: LOL with the mineral walk through the roaches at the end. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:14 negativedge wrote: EGTL players ALWAYS gamble with their builds. To be honest that's zvz in general. Most of the time you can get away with a 15 hatch, but sometimes it can cost you games and what not. | ||
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LegalLord
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On May 11 2013 15:13 i.of.the.storm wrote: Well, they scrapped together wins against the #1 and #3 teams so that was pretty significant IMO, but they fell apart again after that. I think that obscurity really gave them those two wins. No one seriously expected that performance from them. Foreigners are quite noncommittal when it comes to SC2 - the entire scene is a testament to that. That's why EGTL constantly has problems. They have no shortage of talent, just a shortage of real commitment to victory. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:15 heartagram wrote: Eh, even when my main team does poorly, I can always rely on my EG TL anti team. Let's go CJ! Keeping Revival on your anti for this week is ballsy lol | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:14 negativedge wrote: EGTL players ALWAYS gamble with their builds. Wait effort 9 pools and revival was the one who gambled? I take it you don't play zerg. | ||
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ymir233
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Jaedong also 15hatches against pool first, defends ezpz... | ||
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GTPGlitch
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Revival+JD<Effort Oz/Hero>Effort Oz/Hero<Hydra Taeja/Alive>Hydra Taeja/Alive<herO | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:17 ThomasR wrote: GO HOME LIFE YOU'RE DRUNK Life so drunk he makes you comment in the wrong thread. Those baneling deaths were heard in the PL stream. | ||
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YourHarry
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unit suicide...... units going around in circles in enemy's base in queued rally points ......... ,massive overlords to overcast enemy base..... force fields the enemy mineral lines.... | ||
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slowbacontron
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On May 11 2013 15:22 rauk wrote: whats with this yellow ad on pl O_o are they advertising the nada/yellow ssl match? It's a montage not an ad lol | ||
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In short: put in the Norwegian guy and have fun. | ||
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Prince_Stranger
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Jaedong Fighting! | ||
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Prince_Stranger
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On May 11 2013 15:27 StyLeD wrote: What the fuck Jaedong is on EG? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386382 | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:29 Prince_Stranger wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386382 Is he any good in SC2? nvm: answered in game | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:27 StyLeD wrote: What the fuck Jaedong is on EG? exactly what I felt like 6 months ago | ||
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Yeah hahaha I'm so fucking late.... | ||
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Gogogo Jaedong! | ||
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He's decent enough in ZvT and ZvZ, but his ZvP is abysmal. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:41 ne4aJIb wrote: who is that blondie?! Blondie is Snute. | ||
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JvZ i s so good that Jaedong don't need to micro. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:40 Sein wrote: CJ is sending out herO next. Oh, forgot they also had Bong. -_- | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:42 Beirut wrote: Just wondering, why did JD not go straight to finish off the third when he had a 14-0 Mutalisk advantage after the spires went up? It was like a 45 second window. I'm platinum, but it looked like the right move to make considering it would be a free win with a base up and equal muta. He didn't know his mutas were that late. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:42 i.of.the.storm wrote: Lmao yay Jaedong. But watching Jaedong and Effort A-move muta balls into each other is sad, bring back scourge plz so we can see sexy muta micro again. Or like, allow banelings to jump or something. allow spores to burrow completely - spore trap!! | ||
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Thruth
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On May 11 2013 15:42 Beirut wrote: Just wondering, why did JD not go straight to finish off the third when he had a 14-0 Mutalisk advantage after the spires went up? It was like a 45 second window. I'm platinum, but it looked like the right move to make considering it would be a free win with a base up and equal muta. Dong just didn't expect such a long delay on the spire. | ||
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yrt123
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This most likely. Easy for observer to see how ahead one player is in certain parts. Hard to actually know it in game. | ||
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Beirut
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Ah ok yeah that makes sense. Easy to forget when you're watching that there isn't perfect information for both players! Anyway, go JD! That was an old school rivalry match for sure, got me excited. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:42 Beirut wrote: Just wondering, why did JD not go straight to finish off the third when he had a 14-0 Mutalisk advantage after the spires went up? It was like a 45 second window. I'm platinum, but it looked like the right move to make considering it would be a free win with a base up and equal muta. Eff0rt was constantly attacking Jaedong's bases, so he was probably distracted by that. I also don't think that he scouted Eff0rts late Spire. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:45 rj rl wrote: allow spores to burrow completely - spore trap!! Well, you can't micro against that, so that's not really the same. So many memories of Jaedong's sick scourge sniping back in BW, can't replace that with a building. I guess we sort of exchanged that for ling bling wars in SC2 but some diversity in air battles would be cool (other than oh shit I need to split against fungal). | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:47 i.of.the.storm wrote: Well, you can't micro against that, so that's not really the same. So many memories of Jaedong's sick scourge sniping back in BW, can't replace that with a building. I guess we sort of exchanged that for ling bling wars in SC2 but some diversity in air battles would be cool (other than oh shit I need to split against fungal). yeah I know what you mean, but I think the more serious problem with muta is that it's really unforgiving hence frequent mono battles zvz. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:52 Facultyadjutant wrote: da dong vs da bong kaboom mvp | ||
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i.of.the.storm
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On May 11 2013 15:52 rj rl wrote: yeah I know what you mean, but I think the more serious problem with muta is that it's really unforgiving hence frequent mono battles zvz. The problem is that the only counter to mutas is more mutas. It's unforgiving in the sense that if you lose a few the disadvantage snowballs, but in terms of control it's not terribly interesting. If there was a good counter that required skill to use (i.e. not super buff spore crawlers as proposed by Blizzard) it would make things a lot more interesting. I guess maybe we don't need super high APM battles in every stage of ZvZ but as it is right now you either go for mutas or gamble and try to get infestors and probably lose, but even if you have infestors they're too slow to do anything except defend. Edit: Jaedong should smoke his zergbong and take this guy out. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:56 i.of.the.storm wrote: The problem is that the only counter to mutas is more mutas. It's unforgiving in the sense that if you lose a few the disadvantage snowballs, but in terms of control it's not terribly interesting. If there was a good counter that required skill to use (i.e. not super buff spore crawlers as proposed by Blizzard) it would make things a lot more interesting. I guess maybe we don't need super high APM battles in every stage of ZvZ but as it is right now you either go for mutas or gamble and try to get infestors and probably lose, but even if you have infestors they're too slow to do anything except defend. yeah that's what I meant. I tend to think it's a matter of meta game though. | ||
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On May 11 2013 15:55 Facultyadjutant wrote: JvP T.T and it is on Fighting spirit too. pray for JD | ||
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That way my FPL, which has JYP, aLive and Taeja as anti, Hydra and T8 as main, will benefit the most and those people who picked 1 point CJ over 1 point T8 will suffer the most | ||
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Edit: atta boy. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Looked through Liquipedia, best I could find was Sea from 2006 SKY. | ||
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On May 11 2013 16:07 EpiK wrote: why do I have a sinking feeling that JD can still throw this? Because you've watched JDvP before? | ||
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You could have won this game 2 times by now , with simply attacking, and then you might lose cos of a swarmhost transition :S /edit, i take it all back :OO | ||
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JvP is still in effect that game :/ Also: Idra floats for corruptors or muta Commentators: Wow Jaedong uncharacteristicly floats money | ||
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WP Jaedong ^^ | ||
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10 seconds later. "FML." | ||
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On May 11 2013 16:07 Grettin wrote: swarm hosts are fucking useless what the hell are those units. It would help if JD had some detection to kill the Observer scouting them. JD almost lost that to some sloppy play. | ||
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On May 11 2013 16:08 heartagram wrote: 150 lings on the way, 100 army supply, 2 bases, and 0 force fields "how did Bong lose this?" Did they really say that? | ||
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Sometimes not having that information really improves the drama, that was sick! | ||
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Zath.erin
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On May 11 2013 16:08 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Rofl commentators definitely not looking at either supply or resources. Not that exciting really. Well larva is what really mattered, jaedong had to have 75 larva saved, pretty insane! | ||
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Prince_Stranger
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TUski
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:09 GreyKnight wrote: I like how Jaedong almost lost somehow yea swarm hosts were bad here..should have been infestors vs that many immortals. I mean there was like 6-7 immortals i think so there was no way that roachs would last more then a few seconds vs that lol | ||
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Campfire
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moofang
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Aerisky
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:10 ymir233 wrote: Swarmhosts are so shitty though wtf Didnt have enough yet I think... might need fungals or something with it too? | ||
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Gescom
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
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BisuDagger
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Ldawg
United States328 Posts
On a separate note, did anyone else facepalm when Whiplash criticized JD for floating so many resources even though the production bar showed a spire about to finish? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:10 oogieogie wrote: yea swarm hosts were bad here..should have been infestors vs that many immortals. I mean there was like 6-7 immortals i think so there was no way that roachs would last more then a few seconds vs that lol Ug I hate comments like these. No the swarmhosts weren't bad. He just got them late, had he had them sooner he could have been shelling the protoss army before it was even halfway across the map. The thing that made the swarmhosts look bad there is by the time he got them the protoss was at his natural and with FF's they look "bad". Had jaedong got them sooner and been engaging in the middle of the map swarmhosts are really fucking good. | ||
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
Just like when they said "Jaedong is floating minerals sort of uncharacteristic of him" when we saw a spire in production.. He was obviously saving the money for when it was done. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3398 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 mrtomjones wrote: Didnt have enough yet I think... might need fungals or something with it too? He never got them properly in position and queued up in sync. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:10 Die4Ever wrote: ...Jaedong just beat a protoss??? Yes, just like he did 12 other times in hots televised games... http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=211&part=games&league=standard&vs=P | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 mrtomjones wrote: Didnt have enough yet I think... might need fungals or something with it too? not enough and no support..i mean 9 swarm hosts dont do shit he needed like 20 then have them further back so locusts could just keep coming. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:09 Topdoller wrote: It would help if JD had some detection to kill the Observer scouting them. JD almost lost that to some sloppy play. #fuckswarmhost #bringbacklurker  | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
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Juggernaut477
United States379 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:10 ymir233 wrote: Swarmhosts are so shitty though wtf lol, SH are not even close to shitty. | ||
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Sludgepapa
United States14 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 J.E.G. wrote: SNM has really stepped up his casting skills. All of his calls are on point, he has great energy, and he has really cut down on his awkward tongue-ties and stutter. I am glad that SNM is improving, he may not be the best, but he is SO much better than he was during round one. Hell, just not hearing him stutter as much is making it a lot easier to watch the English cast. I am excited to see his and Whiplash's improvement as Proleague progresses. | ||
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Clawfinger
Canada221 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 J.E.G. wrote: SNM has really stepped up his casting skills. All of his calls are on point, he has great energy, and he has really cut down on his awkward tongue-ties and stutter. 100% agree. I have no problem listening to SNM/Whiplash anymore. They have improved immensely since the start of 12-13 Proleague. I don't think I would ever choose them over Tastosis/Wolf/Apollo, but I'd have no problem if they stuck around for the next season of Proleague. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3398 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:12 sM.Zik wrote: Yes, just like he did 12 other times in hots televised games... http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=211&part=games&league=standard&vs=P 1-4 ZvP in SPL going into that game. ;0 | ||
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Ldawg
United States328 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 Highwinds wrote: That killed me when they called the fight for bong and there is 140+ lings in production lol.... Just like when they said "Jaedong is floating minerals sort of uncharacteristic of him" when we saw a spire in production.. He was obviously saving the money for when it was done. My thoughts exactly...particularly the floating resources comment. I about threw my laptop across the room in disgust. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 blade55555 wrote: Ug I hate comments like these. No the swarmhosts weren't bad. He just got them late, had he had them sooner he could have been shelling the protoss army before it was even halfway across the map. The thing that made the swarmhosts look bad there is by the time he got them the protoss was at his natural and with FF's they look "bad". Had jaedong got them sooner and been engaging in the middle of the map swarmhosts are really fucking good. Listen to this dude, he's always preaching the gospel of swarm hosts. But seriously, watch some GSL/GSTL games and you'll see Zergs use them extremely well against Protoss and make it look almost imba. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:11 blade55555 wrote: Ug I hate comments like these. No the swarmhosts weren't bad. He just got them late, had he had them sooner he could have been shelling the protoss army before it was even halfway across the map. The thing that made the swarmhosts look bad there is by the time he got them the protoss was at his natural and with FF's they look "bad". Had jaedong got them sooner and been engaging in the middle of the map swarmhosts are really fucking good. so they were bad at the spot he got them or otherwise bad here....also he needed a much more critical mass along with fungals probably because 9 swarm hosts are not going to be great. He had to commit much more to them. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
2-4 (and now 3-4), but yeah I see your point. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:13 Clawfinger wrote: 100% agree. I have no problem listening to SNM/Whiplash anymore. They have improved immensely since the start of 12-13 Proleague. I don't think I would ever choose them over Tastosis/Wolf/Apollo, but I'd have no problem if they stuck around for the next season of Proleague. agree with the improvement. but still lacking and ....... in my opinion, they need to improve quite a bit more for me to enjoy these games as much as i would have from tastosis casting | ||
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Juggernaut477
United States379 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:15 oogieogie wrote: so they were bad at the spot he got them or otherwise bad here....also he needed a much more critical mass along with fungals probably because 9 swarm hosts are not going to be great. He had to commit much more to them. 9-12 swarm hosts is the perfect number. | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:15 oogieogie wrote: so they were bad at the spot he got them or otherwise bad here....also he needed a much more critical mass along with fungals probably because 9 swarm hosts are not going to be great. He had to commit much more to them. I only make 12-14 in zvp and that's a really good number. I don't think you need more then that, 12-14 imo is the sweet spot and should be all you make. | ||
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
The videosnaps of him are always hilarious, love Juan <3 Also anyone who speaks korean can talk about how the commentators are reacting to Snute when they pan to him? | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:17 Facultyadjutant wrote: God I love tthat major is in proleague The videosnaps of him are always hilarious, love Juan <3 Also anyone who speaks korean can talk about how the commentators are reacting to Snute when they pan to him? they say he looks pretty | ||
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forumtext
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:17 Facultyadjutant wrote: God I love tthat major is in proleague The videosnaps of him are always hilarious, love Juan <3 Also anyone who speaks korean can talk about how the commentators are reacting to Snute when they pan to him? Earlier they were talking about how pretty he is. I think they used the term "Flowerboy." | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:16 evergreensc wrote: Snute is so pretty. Bly and soulkey almost make me gay.... Almost | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:16 blade55555 wrote: I only make 12-14 in zvp and that's a really good number. I don't think you need more then that, 12-14 imo is the sweet spot and should be all you make. I prefer a much more critical mass of like 16-18, but he had only like 9 there which did nothing along with just roach support was terrible vs that army. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:13 EnumaAvalon wrote: Wrong herO on the OP. :D It's Song (HerO) not herO TLPDize -_- | ||
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oniman999
United States169 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:16 blade55555 wrote: I only make 12-14 in zvp and that's a really good number. I don't think you need more then that, 12-14 imo is the sweet spot and should be all you make. Depends on what stage of the game we are in, really late 20-25+ SHs is looking to become standard. | ||
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
He is haha. Prettiest boy of SC2. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
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BisuDagger
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McBengt
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:21 McBengt wrote: Depends on what stage of the game we are in, really late 20-25+ SHs is looking to become standard. Yeah I am not a fan of that. But I also don't like playing with mass spore/spine. I prefer going ultra/hydra/swarmhost/viper. Much more fun and can take on late game toss army's no problem ^^. | ||
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BisuDagger
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:18 Daralii wrote: Earlier they were talking about how pretty he is. I think they used the term "Flowerboy." hahahahahah I hope to god this stick herO is also hilarious, that smile when he picked Terran just make me like him more and more | ||
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polgas
Canada1752 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xLgnYFH.jpg) JD thinking "noob..." | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:23 slowbacontron wrote: Just for reference it's stringent not stingent. It's astringent ruleset. | ||
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Sayer
United States403 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:24 Sayer wrote: hey guys Ive been MIA from sc2 for couple of months. Is ZvP a better match up to watch than it was in WoL? I I think so. I wish vipers were used more though =/ | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:24 Sayer wrote: hey guys Ive been MIA from sc2 for couple of months. Is ZvP a better match up to watch than it was in WoL? I Yes | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
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Rube_Juice
Canada348 Posts
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McBengt
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:10 TUski wrote: Jaedong please don't make swarm hosts again, it scares the crap out of me every time Transitioning into swarm hosts is the most stressful 2-3 minutes of every match. For a solid 120 seconds you have nothing on the table haha. | ||
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Australia421 Posts
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eonDE
Canada371 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:26 Rube_Juice wrote: before the 145 lings got queued up, it actually looked really desperate for Jaedong there. I thought there was a good chance he might lose there. If i had seen that he had 80 larva, that would have been different. That was an epic last moment for sure. Yeah the lack of information made that epic. I'd be interested to see casters/observers try to deny information a bit more, a lot of Sc2's predicability comes from seeing everything that is going on. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not so good to know everything that is going on | ||
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letian
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BisuDagger
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United States2073 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:28 EpiK wrote: ggaemo His expression was the prototype for Kirby. | ||
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Vietnam8333 Posts
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
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letian
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/MrHoon/GaemmoLol.gif) That is why you would make such face. | ||
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France29748 Posts
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forumtext
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polgas
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AwesomeFossum
United States312 Posts
Haha, that's awesome! But also so true! xD | ||
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United States3292 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:35 oogieogie wrote: oh shit locust upgrade..idk about this what does that upgrade do? | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
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StyLeD
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Azera
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Corrosive
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Canada1952 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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polgas
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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slowbacontron
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yawnoC
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Ramiz1989
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Extend Locusts duration by 10 seconds, so they last 25 seconds instead of 15, and also have 25 seconds cooldown. | ||
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habeck
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
Then a very clunky transition, Jaedong is really lacking finesse in zvp | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
jk, Enrique-time! | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
Increases locust range Too bad swarm hosts pop like water balloons before locusts pay for the swarm host's weight in minerals Now if zerg had 9 lurkers and 2 groups of hydra/roach, this would have been held easily. | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
Increases the duration of the swarmhosts. The transition to SH is so so difficult... | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
No shit! | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
Jaedong is lookinga bit less awful in vP of late, but his transitions are a bit wonky as some are saying. Still, improvement is improvement | ||
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Myoo33
Netherlands6 Posts
Increases the lifespan of Locusts by 10 seconds. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
EDIT: Wait, no it isn't. But show them anyways | ||
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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eonDE
Canada371 Posts
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
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levelping
Singapore759 Posts
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rj rl
648 Posts
The soundtrack to a fucking creek flowing: herO destroys JD. Isn't music supposed to correlate? As in Journey. | ||
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Azera
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Malaysia6060 Posts
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
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DigitalDevil
219 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:38 Topdoller wrote: Going for Swarm Hosts again, get the feeling this unit gets Zergs killed fast due to it being crap in low numbers and the investment required to make the tech useful. Well played by Hero btw Yeah, it doesn't pay for itself quickly enough. It's seems like a unit you spam lategame, but you can't seem to mass enough of them to hold against all ins and timing attacks. | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:39 Arceus wrote: everytime zerg opts for SH transition, they open a huge timing window for protoss to rebuild army and attack. herO just quite brilliantly hits that timing. This game looks somewhat similar to JD vs Nani on StarStation Yeah HerO makes it look so easy to catch a Z in transition, but he really hit a pretty quick window. Shame too, I feel like SH had a great chance on that map if you can get them up and running alongside some support. Good game by CJ, good improvement from JD, seeing an increasingly solid version of his BW self... | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:40 Wombat_NI wrote: Speaking of swarmhosts, are they getting much use in Proleague? I've seen them be quite effective in foreign tournaments lately, and are coming into fashion in some of the GSL/GSTL but I don't know, the Kespa P's seem a bit more ruthless in punishing the switch or something? RoRo used them in GSL on Akilon wastes, pretty good game. Swarm host + corruptor and moving around like crazy | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
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Thruth
Poland112 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:38 ymir233 wrote: Increases locust range Too bad swarm hosts pop like water balloons before locusts pay for the swarm host's weight in minerals Now if zerg had 9 lurkers and 2 groups of hydra/roach, this would have been held easily. But then if herO had reavers and corsairs... This-game-is-not-fucking-Brood-War. | ||
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polishedturd
United States505 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:40 Wombat_NI wrote: Speaking of swarmhosts, are they getting much use in Proleague? I've seen them be quite effective in foreign tournaments lately, and are coming into fashion in some of the GSL/GSTL but I don't know, the Kespa P's seem a bit more ruthless in punishing the switch or something? Mass SH vs toss in the late game is rapidly becoming standard in both GSL and GSTL, so I doubt it will take very long before PL zergs firgure out how to use them correctly(i.e. mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense). | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:43 polishedturd wrote: out of curiosity, is there a means to watch the korean stream in a lower resolution than 720p? stuck on slower internet for the weekend and i prefer korean language proleague as someone who speaks 0 korean i also prefer korean pro league in korean. | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:43 polishedturd wrote: out of curiosity, is there a means to watch the korean stream in a lower resolution than 720p? stuck on slower internet for the weekend and i prefer korean language proleague haven't figured out the way yet, have the same issue sometimes | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:44 McBengt wrote: Mass SH vs toss in the late game is rapidly becoming standard in both GSL and GSTL, so I doubt it will take very long before PL zergs firgure out how to use them correctly(i.e. mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense). I really hope that style isn't refined and replicated too well, or I'll maybe kill myself playing Zergs on the ladder all day. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:44 McBengt wrote: Mass SH vs toss in the late game is rapidly becoming standard in both GSL and GSTL, so I doubt it will take very long before PL zergs firgure out how to use them correctly(i.e. mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense). Do you actually think that, an unit that serves the only purpose of "mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense", is a good unit? So far thats the only think it could do. On May 11 2013 16:45 rj rl wrote: haven't figured out the way yet, have the same issue sometimes try VLC, 360p & glorious 4:3 | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:46 Arceus wrote: Do you actually think that, an unit that serves the only purpose of "mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense", is a good unit? So far thats the only think it could do. try VLC, 360p & glorious 4:3 I didn't make the unit, I just try to use it And Wombat dude, are you trying to tell me you don't enjoy endless 40+ minute turtlefests with either player hesitant to engage because of tempests/stupidly powerful casters? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:46 Arceus wrote: Do you actually think that, an unit that serves the only purpose of "mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense", is a good unit? So far thats the only think it could do. try VLC, 360p & glorious 4:3 It's just a safer transition, especially for a unit that really needs a decent amount of them out on the field in order to accomplish anything. Transitions can be refined though, to the extent they are perfectly safe to do when a few months before they'd be regarded as suicidal. BL/Infestor took ages to became a lategame staple, balance patches notwithstanding it was experimentation that enabled that to become standard. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
vs heeee roh | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
I mean FerO. Whatever. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:46 Arceus wrote: Do you actually think that, an unit that serves the only purpose of "mass them late game behind a wall of casters and static defense", is a good unit? So far thats the only think it could do. try VLC, 360p & glorious 4:3 In both games where Soulkey used them(against Flying, and against Maru's mech) he used 5-10 of them, and had great success, so no, I don't think that you should mass them for them to be effective. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Belgium16168 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:50 McBengt wrote: I didn't make the unit, I just try to use it And Wombat dude, are you trying to tell me you don't enjoy endless 40+ minute turtlefests with either player hesitant to engage because of tempests/stupidly powerful casters? Protoss casters aren't stupidly powerful man, they are sensibly powerful I quit playing WoL for the last I don't know, 5/6 months because of PvZ being a nightmare to play. I became so angry I would frequently shave obscene messages on my dog and send photos of it to my practice partners. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:49 simmeh wrote: corruptors eventually become such a waste of supply Corruptors are just bad in general. They have one really niche role, and that's all they're good at. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:51 slowbacontron wrote: <3 HerO fighting! One of them captilizes the H and CJ capitilizes the O. So who are u rooting for? | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On May 11 2013 16:53 Daralii wrote: Corruptors are just bad in general. They have one really niche role, and that's all they're good at. As I have said in some other thread, bring back the Devourers! :D | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:53 Ramiz1989 wrote: As I have said in some other thread, bring back the Devourers! :D Or give a toggled mode to mutas that gives them the same attack. Just get rid of the flying pies. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
"they're cheering on" ... :D | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:52 Wombat_NI wrote: Protoss casters aren't stupidly powerful man, they are sensibly powerful I quit playing WoL for the last I don't know, 5/6 months because of PvZ being a nightmare to play. I became so angry I would frequently shave obscene messages on my dog and send photos of it to my practice partners. Lol no, protoss casters are friggin imbalanced. Don't say anything else. + Show Spoiler + Like, who's better than ToD, Rotterdam, Grubby and Tastosis!? | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: One of them captilizes the H and CJ capitilizes the O. So who are u rooting for? As you can see the H is capitalized but both of them are really cool! | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:54 DJHelium wrote: Lol no, protoss casters are friggin imbalanced. Don't say anything else. + Show Spoiler + Like, who's better than ToD, Rotterdam, Grubby and Tastosis!? Extremely OP Blizz pls nerf | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:54 Daralii wrote: Or give a toggled mode to mutas that gives them the same attack. Just get rid of the flying pies. That would be imbalanced as hell. | ||
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Belgium16168 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:55 slowbacontron wrote: As you can see the H is capitalized but both of them are really cool!As you can see the O is capitilized as well. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
omg that's gorush? *-* | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2385 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:54 nkr wrote: "what are they saying" "they're cheering on" ... :D that's all theyre saying 1 2 3 egtl fighting 1 2 3 cj fighting | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: As you can see the O is capitilized as well. Uhh they both capitalize the O http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HerO http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HerO(jOin) | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
Reach's Amazing Maelstrom? | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: One of them captilizes the H and CJ capitilizes the O. So who are u rooting for? It's Liquid`HerO and CJ.herO For example, on Twitter: @Liquid_HerO | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:57 evergreensc wrote: Uhh they both capitalize the O http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HerO http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HerO(jOin) im like 100% sure in the screen were you see the names only one of them is capitilized. Could be a mistake and im being an idiot. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:52 Wombat_NI wrote: Protoss casters aren't stupidly powerful man, they are sensibly powerful I quit playing WoL for the last I don't know, 5/6 months because of PvZ being a nightmare to play. I became so angry I would frequently shave obscene messages on my dog and send photos of it to my practice partners. Well it's actually funny, templars became more powerful simply because the viper was introduced, and because how absolutely essential it is to feedback them right to prevent your army from unvoluntarily playing musical chairs over a forest of spores. Late game right now it's shaping up to be a battle of zerg casters, crawlers and SHs vs tempests and templars. Everything else just kind of sits there and holds its dick or other unspecified genitalia until someone says "fuck it" and attacks. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:59 MysteryMeat1 wrote: im like 100% sure in the screen were you see the names only one of them is capitilized. Could be a mistake and im being an idiot. That screen doesn't always bother with getting the names exactly right. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:02 Sprouter wrote: what's with this January montage? is she retiring? :o I think it's for breaking a certain number of wins as coach | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:02 Sprouter wrote: what's with this January montage? is she retiring? :o I think it's just for funzies Nvm | ||
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:02 Sprouter wrote: what's with this January montage? is she retiring? :o Probably not, but that was awesome! | ||
GTR
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by.heroherO[jOin] HerO[Shield]HerO_V_KT.MGW)HERO herO[KaS] | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:02 Sprouter wrote: what's with this January montage? is she retiring? :o Probably because 200 wins. | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
there we go ! | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
Wao Protoss players really like to think themselves as heroic. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Baumbart
Germany17 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:00 plasmidghost wrote: I thought the retired Hero played for Team 8 and now plays BW again ya he's the other bw hero that played zerg he was on STX b4 t8 into retire into SoSPA CJ herO played zerg in BW | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:05 slowbacontron wrote: Wao Protoss players really like to think themselves as heroic. I imagine that happens when you listen to their unit responses for 10+ hours a day. >.> | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
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GTPGlitch
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Vietnam8333 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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Sludgepapa
United States14 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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slowbacontron
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GTPGlitch
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Propelled
Denmark184 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:08 iKill[ShocK] wrote: man i wanted double proxy dt to basetrade -> regame like last time! How come it ended up with a regame? | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
Cannon for detection, neither player could kill the other and no mining. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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eonDE
Canada371 Posts
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GTPGlitch
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
Then herO's msc gets away! | ||
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United States4064 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:11 DMXD wrote: orcales kill workers so fast. O_O They kinda have to in order to justify having an energy cost for their attack. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
It's pretty funny, almost all the top casters play Protoss for some reason. There's also Incontrol. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Propelled
Denmark184 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:10 DJHelium wrote: Cannon for detection, neither player could kill the other and no mining. Sounds fun :D | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:10 GTPGlitch wrote: oracles>banshees jeez If TL hero's oracle was a banshee CJ hero would've lost all of his workers the first time rather than 10 | ||
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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gobbledydook
Australia2603 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
EDIT: It's kinda like "is someone gonna proxy stargate?" Yes? This game is boring. Are both players going to proxy stargate? Yes? This game is a coinflip. Is no one proxying stargates? Don't worry, we'll still see voids at some point. :l | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 Brutaxilos wrote: I don't think ferO as a name is working. I just don't feel like herO deserves of such a condescending title. Especially since he's been using that name for many years. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 Brutaxilos wrote: I don't think ferO as a name is working. I just don't feel like herO deserves of such a condescending title. Also I'm pretty sure he had the title first. Also the Zerg by.hero probably had it before either of them. Actually, casters should really just stick to using team/clan tags, it's much better than ferO. | ||
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Sludgepapa
United States14 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 Brutaxilos wrote: I don't think ferO as a name is working. I just don't feel like herO deserves of such a condescending title. Its also not working because they never say it. Whiplash said it a few times during the cast, but he wasn't consistent. They should have just stuck to saying "CJ herO" and "Liquid HerO", it is much easier to follow it that way. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 evergreensc wrote: God I hate oracles and void rays. At least Phoenix, Tempest, and Carriers are well designed. Are you serious? Since when are Phoenix and Tempest well designed, they are 2 boring a - move units from what i can see. At least Oracles have a couple of nifty utility spells | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 RogerChillingworth wrote: lol he said sex!! | ||
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Ilovesky
China41 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 Brutaxilos wrote: I don't think ferO as a name is working. I just don't feel like herO deserves of such a condescending title. I agree. Just say the teamnames or make up nicknames that make sense. TL vs CJ, Liquid vs Entus or Lero vs Cero are all better than Fero! | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:16 Topdoller wrote: Are you serious? Since when are Phoenix and Tempest well designed, they are 2 boring a - move units from what i can see. At least Oracles have a couple of nifty utility spells yeah, turning a ninja stargate unit into an obs and/or superbanshee at will is pretty good design... | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:16 Topdoller wrote: Are you serious? Since when are Phoenix and Tempest well designed, they are 2 boring a - move units from what i can see. At least Oracles have a couple of nifty utility spells How are phoenixes a-move units? | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
cuz man if u press a and clcik they attack, and they totaly dont haev a spell. | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:16 Topdoller wrote: Are you serious? Since when are Phoenix and Tempest well designed, they are 2 boring a - move units from what i can see. At least Oracles have a couple of nifty utility spells Phoenix are really cool harass units, and if you a-move them vs. mutas you'll just lose them all even though they counter them because of numbers, you really can't a-move them if you want to keep any of them alive. Tempests I just like because they force engagements and let Protoss take positioning/snipe units. Seeing players make exactly 5 tempests then focus down colo is pretty cool imo. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
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Vesky
United States857 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:13 Brutaxilos wrote: I don't think ferO as a name is working. I just don't feel like herO deserves of such a condescending title. I think it was pretty hilarious whiplash managed to convince SNM to say it at all. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:19 playa wrote: Every Hero vs Z game I've seen lately, be it a pro league game or a practice game (stream), he has looked like a bronze league player, getting completely embarrassed. I wonder what desperation, 1% chance of working strategy he will have in store for this game. Or, maybe I just happened to watch only the games he lost, happenstance. I miss Liquid'Hero's PvZ gosuosity Him vs Stephano was a neat rivalry when they were at peak powers But then WoL turned into static defense spam --; | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:19 Corrosive wrote: cuz man if u press a and clcik they attack, and they totaly dont haev a spell. Well damn, we really are the a-move race. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:21 i.of.the.storm wrote: Even herO[join] and HerO[shield] would be better IMO. Also didn't realize HerO was on Oz's B team, I guess him and Jaedong might actually have some history (they're the same age too)? Yep, friendship of the handsomes ^^ | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:25 evergreensc wrote: Okay so assuming Hydra wins this game, which is a terrible assumption because every time I think he's got a game won easily he makes me want to die, who's the ace? Hydra/EffOrt vs. Jaedong? JD already played. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
fuuuu gorush still being handsome fuffuuffufufufufufufuffuufu so distracting :D | ||
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CygnusAres
Singapore893 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:25 evergreensc wrote: Okay so assuming Hydra wins this game, which is a terrible assumption because every time I think he's got a game won easily he makes me want to die, who's the ace? Hydra/EffOrt vs. Jaedong? Both Effort and Jaedong have already played. I'm guessing TaeJa comes out if Hero loses. | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:26 imallinson wrote: Both Effort and Jaedong have already played. I'm guessing TaeJa comes out if Hero loses. Forgive my tired idiocy, I forgot it was all-kill somehow. :l | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:25 Lazzi wrote: Breaks in SPL are way too long, every time there is a break I think about stop watching it. You're still here so the breaks are just right. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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EscapingJail
United States212 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:27 slowbacontron wrote: oGs.Supernova used to be SaiR apparently. haha yup if you read the comments on him leaving KT for Stars it's pretty hilarious 8) | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
Poor LzGamer left out of the MEDIA remake | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
It's an ace match? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:20 GTPGlitch wrote: I miss Liquid'Hero's PvZ gosuosity Him vs Stephano was a neat rivalry when they were at peak powers But then WoL turned into static defense spam --; Most annoying game in the history of WoL was HerO vs Leenock in Code S on Antiga, omfg. | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:29 evergreensc wrote: So assuming I'm not a fucking idiot, who's the ace match? Hydra vs. Alive/Taeja?? Them or Oz. I hope for Taeja! | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
Not this round, it's all kill format! | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:29 GTPGlitch wrote: haha yup if you read the comments on him leaving KT for Stars it's pretty hilarious 8) Hmm I want to see that | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109313 | ||
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panzercrusher
Poland457 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
here you go :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109313 fFFFFFF NINJA'D | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:33 GTPGlitch wrote: here you go :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109313 fFFFFFF NINJA'D So slow. <3 | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
hmm. | ||
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Swiipii
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
Meh, BW Bo7 PL style forever, the best format by far. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
T_T I'm just gonna go cry in the corner | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:32 evergreensc wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109313 Thanks! Becoming the best Terran on WJS, heh | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
These casters constantly only do the simplest of analysis | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
edit: lol at SNM and Whiplash raving about this stargate switch... it's too late and not smart | ||
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Propelled
Denmark184 Posts
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:36 Scarecrow wrote: Hydra knows exactly what's up now Or does he? | ||
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
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slowbacontron
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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GreyKnight
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
A sign of a great caster for sure! | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:37 samurai80 wrote: Hydra always goes hydras actually -.- Yeah he even says it out loud with his ID. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:38 blade55555 wrote: What is hero doing? O_O being too clever for his own good | ||
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United States33390 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:40 Waxangel wrote: somehow HerO is winning because he got Hydra to make a ton of units and not attack with them Yeah LOL. Oh man this game is kinda funny. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
It's like Inception. Edit: Well, JD and Hero doing work, looking good. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:42 dainbramage wrote: How did hero make that work? Or was he just praying that 5 phoenixes would make hydra keep his entire army at home rather than just going and killing him? Hydra made that work. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
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Gojii
Belgium317 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:42 dainbramage wrote: How did hero make that work? Or was he just praying that 5 phoenixes would make hydra keep his entire army at home rather than just going and killing him? Hydra got so confused by the fake soul train that he didn't know he could attack and win | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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United States629 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
finally some points ! | ||
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United Kingdom3860 Posts
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Canada10567 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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GreyKnight
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
I'm crying tears of joy | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
also dont dance hero, park doesnt seem to be amused^^ | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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PimpWilly
United States228 Posts
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Oman142 Posts
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Salteador Neo
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
Surprisingly clutch of late in Proleague as well, didn't expect that development at all! | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
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GosuNinja
United States127 Posts
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Romania5281 Posts
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rj rl
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
When will Blizzard wake up, it's killing SC2. | ||
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Canada2547 Posts
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Germany4057 Posts
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Fody03
Italy310 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:46 Highways wrote: Protoss matchup's are just not fun to watch. When will Blizzard wake up, it's killing SC2. this was a pretty fun game,given all these weird builds Gee Gee EG TL! | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:43 Scarecrow wrote: Hero so lucky lol, terrible game How was it terrible ? That was really funny. HerO's mind game was not that effective because it costs a lot but it did force his opponent to make a lot of troops and be on the defensive. In the end I think it paid off. | ||
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Baumbart
Germany17 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:47 samurai80 wrote: How was it terrible ? That was really funny. HerO's mind game was not that effective because it costs a lot but it did force his opponent to make a lot of troops and be on the defensive. In the end I think it paid off. Agree on that. The phoenix didn't do a lot of damage to Hydra but gave hero the possibility to take his 3rd despite having had the much weaker army. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:47 Fody03 wrote: this was a pretty fun game,given all these weird builds Gee Gee EG TL! Every Protoss game it's a one big death ball attack move push. | ||
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panzercrusher
Poland457 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:47 Fody03 wrote: this was a pretty fun game,given all these weird builds Gee Gee EG TL! Imho definitely worth watching dat HerO stalkers dancing... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25344 Posts
You don't like them, that's your prerogative and that's fine. Parting vs Flash was hardly a boring game to most people surely? | ||
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:47 samurai80 wrote: How was it terrible ? That was really funny. HerO's mind game was not that effective because it costs a lot but it did force his opponent to make a lot of troops and be on the defensive. In the end I think it paid off. he was lucky because it's extraordinarily unlikely he intended for the mind game to work out that way, he lucked into hydra being utterly confused and making troops instead of econ, and then not using those troops to deal severe damage at a timing when hero had nothing to stop hydras except maybe GODLY FF's | ||
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Clawfinger
Canada221 Posts
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
Really try to like them but just can't, sry. Hero was in the perfect position right before winning the big fight with 4 colossus, immortal, stalker sentry against hydra ling and 4 corruptors and a few infestors and they keep saying that it's a terrible situation for Hero. C'mon im a diamond zerg and i know that being stuck on hydra ling if your opponent has the same amount of collosus as you have corruptors is terrible. GG by Hero though, nice fake | ||
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:46 Highways wrote: Protoss matchup's are just not fun to watch. When will Blizzard wake up, it's killing SC2. Gtfo. It's most fun race to watch. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:46 Highways wrote: Protoss matchup's are just not fun to watch. When will Blizzard wake up, it's killing SC2. I love protoss in HotS actually. Dunno what's wrong with u. | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:48 Highways wrote: Every Protoss game it's a one big death ball attack move push. Nop This game it was, but its because Hero's mindgame was so good that Hydra was far behind, so Hero just had to amove to victory. Hydras would have understood the build earlier, he would have had vipers by the time the push would have come, and Hero would have needed to play totally differently. | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Protoss matches are not 'killing SC2' ffs. You don't like them, that's your prerogative and that's fine. Parting vs Flash was hardly a boring game to most people surely? I agree with the first part, nothing is killing SC2, it's doing fine. I also, however, don't like Protoss matchups, and I only felt Parting vs. Flash was a good matchup because Flash made it interesting honestly. Then again, I'm a whiner and have hated SC2 protoss since I found out warpgate and sentries were things. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:47 samurai80 wrote: How was it terrible ? That was really funny. HerO's mind game was not that effective because it costs a lot but it did force his opponent to make a lot of troops and be on the defensive. In the end I think it paid off. cause cj lost, terrible series /s | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
The double stargate indicates that he expected a muta response, but there was none. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:49 Waxangel wrote: he was lucky because it's extraordinarily unlikely he intended for the mind game to work out that way, he lucked into hydra being utterly confused and making troops instead of econ, and then not using those troops to deal severe damage at a timing when hero had nothing to stop hydras except maybe GODLY FF's Which way would it has been ? He wanted to fake the imo allin instead of doing it because it was already almost scouted. It's like cancelling your stargate after being scouted no ? Edit: and I was asking how it was terrible, not how HerO was lucky. | ||
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:53 Ender2701 wrote: I do not understand how HerO won that game. He faked an immortal push and his opponent made ling hydra, and then he actually just had immortals and gateway units and no third. Then Hydra turns his entire army around for 1 halluc wap prism and somehow HerO secures a third... The double stargate indicates that he expected a muta response, but there was none. Hydra was obviously just confused, facing something you've never faced before in proleague has to be a little bit nerve-wracking. | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:53 Ender2701 wrote: I do not understand how HerO won that game. He faked an immortal push and his opponent made ling hydra, and then he actually just had immortals and gateway units and no third. Then Hydra turns his entire army around for 1 halluc wap prism and somehow HerO secures a third... The double stargate indicates that he expected a muta response, but there was none. The warpprism + the phoenixes delayed Hydra's push a lot. That's why he won. Hydra derped a bit by moving all his army to defend this.... But I think that even with half hydra's army attacking hero, with forcefields, hero could have hold this while his double robo was building colossus. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:54 samurai80 wrote: Which way would it has been ? He wanted to fake the imo allin instead of doing it because it was already almost scouted. It's like cancelling your stargate after being scouted no ? Edit: and I was asking how it was terrible, not how HerO was lucky. It was terrible because hardly anything happened for most of the game, HerO's all-in got fully scouted so he transitioned into something so bad that Hydra didn't even consider it as an option. The only highlight was the fake warp prism. If Hydra were Idra he'd have ripped the door off his booth and impaled the monitor. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
serious progress | ||
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
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Denar
France1633 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:57 slowbacontron wrote: Does anyone know how long VODS will take? Usually, twitch VODs are up pretty fast, about 1h after the games I'd say. Youtube ones always take a bit more time, but they are usually all up 2-3 hours after the games. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
It's not cut up yet though, so you have to scroll through the 5~ hour broadcast manually http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/b/401958576 | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On May 11 2013 18:22 Denar wrote: Usually, twitch VODs are up pretty fast, about 1h after the games I'd say. Youtube ones always take a bit more time, but they are usually all up 2-3 hours after the games. Oh, gotta go to sleep soon as it's 4:25 AM >.< I'll try to post the VODs in the OP when I can. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Denar
France1633 Posts
On May 11 2013 18:39 slowbacontron wrote: Youtube vids are all up! Nice job, and good night sir! | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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sinigang
360 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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gobbledydook
Australia2603 Posts
now I get -1 on JYP, aLive and Taeja. +0 Hydra main. GG | ||
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75
Germany4057 Posts
On May 11 2013 19:00 DarkLordOlli wrote: I only somewhat understand what happened in HerO vs Hydra but not really all that much HerO faked Immo push and went double stargate to counter Mutas. Hydra made a big hydra/ling army and tried to defend against the drops(hallucination) and against the pheonix that occured later. He missed the window to attack HerO and because of double robo (i think it was two robos, not sure though) his hydra/ling/few corrupter army was too weak to fight. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
to Avenge who is absolutely awful | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
Going to take some more wins to get me invested and get excited again for egtl | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On May 11 2013 19:46 75 wrote: HerO faked Immo push and went double stargate to counter Mutas. Hydra made a big hydra/ling army and tried to defend against the drops(hallucination) and against the pheonix that occured later. He missed the window to attack HerO and because of double robo (i think it was two robos, not sure though) his hydra/ling/few corrupter army was too weak to fight. See that part I got. What I didn't get was how hydra saw that the prism was hallucinated in the middle of the map and still pulled everything back thus missing his fairly huge window when he could've attacked. And yeah it was initially 1 robo colossus, then 2. Also about Avenge, he actually seems pretty damn good right now. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
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Purple Haze
United Kingdom200 Posts
On May 11 2013 20:56 Dr.Sin wrote: 2nd week in a row the vods don't work. I really wish that Twitch would fix their vod viewing system to be spoiler free for tournamenst. This really sucks. This, a thousand times. Not much point in paying for the VoDs if there's no way to avoid being spoiled, or in this case to watch them at all. | ||
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FeltFace
Australia577 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Scoring: EG-TL +3 EffOrt +2 Jaedong +5 herO[jOin] +3 HerO +6 all other EG-TL players +1 | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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havok55
United States276 Posts
On May 11 2013 19:59 DreamOen wrote: if they win every single game till the playoffs , can they qualify? Pretty sure the the top teams would need to lose every set to the lower teams as well. Aint happening. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:10 Emzeeshady wrote: What are you talking about. He isn't Code S level but he isn't a terrible player. No need to be disrespectful to him. He works hard and gets decent results. Lol I guess Fantasy DRG and Keen are all awful players, losing to Avenge... | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 11 2013 22:11 Elroi wrote: Uhhh CJ losing to the worst team in the league CJ is actually the worst team in the league since Round 4, they went 1-6 in R4. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On May 12 2013 03:58 HolyArrow wrote: Lol I guess Fantasy DRG and Keen are all awful players, losing to Avenge... They are drg is washed up fantasy still plays terribly and keen? He hasnt done anything impressive has he | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:47 mongmong wrote: They are drg is washed up fantasy still plays terribly and keen? He hasnt done anything impressive has he Add Baby to the suck list. He got 2-0'd out the gsl last season <_> | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 12 2013 02:44 havok55 wrote: Pretty sure the the top teams would need to lose every set to the lower teams as well. Aint happening. If they win every single game, they will have a 23-19 record, surely in playoff. With that record, they don't need to look at other team's records. | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
On May 11 2013 17:54 Insoleet wrote: The warpprism + the phoenixes delayed Hydra's push a lot. That's why he won. Hydra derped a bit by moving all his army to defend this.... But I think that even with half hydra's army attacking hero, with forcefields, hero could have hold this while his double robo was building colossus. I mean I fully understand that given Hydra's response that HerO would win, but I am confused as to why HerO did that build in the first place. Against a zerg that doesn't turn his whole army around to deal with a few phoenix and a fake WP I don't think it's a very good build... | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:47 mongmong wrote: They are drg is washed up fantasy still plays terribly and keen? He hasnt done anything impressive has he Keen has been doing very well in GSTL generally. He's taken out Alicia, Yonghwa, and Kangho (Losira) to name a few. He's become a very solid player again. Avenge is fine. | ||
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THELEHGOTERRAN
United States1837 Posts
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