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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5261
On May 02 2013 21:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Ow, so that's what you were saying when you were telling me how MKP whinefans are nothing compared to Flash whinefans.

Okay.

I can see it clearly now. Thanks.


But how do they scale vs Stephano cryfans?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5262
Flash didn't recognized the greedy build of Parting, mass tech then gateway explosion, he had quite a big window to go kill him when he had a nice army vs something like 4 zealots and 3 sentries, but if you let this window close it's too late, the 6-8 gateways chew too much 2-2 units for you to handle without mass rax.
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5263
On May 02 2013 21:21 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:20 Lunareste wrote:
I can't believe it. I can't believe Flash didn't realize that Storm wasn't done. He could have stim-amoved with 4 medivacs into a straight win that game.


I'm not sure he could have, nexus cannon with those archons and zealots to tank, you don't need storm to beat 2 medivacs worth of units.

Either way, I'm super sad that Flash didn't advance, but now all I wish for is that Parting crushes life. SKTT1 FIGHTING!


Too many FFs were ready, anyway. It wasn't an approachable position for Flash. I just couldn't understand what he was thinking, going for a 3rd CC after seeing a 2 base toss going for a timing attack...
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5264
On May 02 2013 21:22 oGsTrueSmug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:21 shadymmj wrote:
WHY DOESNT MACRO WIN IN SC2??? boring...

Does if you're not Terran.


Because if u just macro and no micro, who wants to see A-move army fighting. It's not only macro, but multitasking, map awareness to make the right decisions to counter your opponent, not just blindly macroing units
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5265
...hope at least Life takes seond place...f***** PartinG :/
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5266
there goes the korea sc2 resurgence i was hoping for
nothing
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5267
On May 02 2013 21:22 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:21 redviper wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:19 Nomzter wrote:
kespa > kespa


Parting isn't KESPA.

Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.

lol someone's a bit of an mvp fan


lol Mvp had magic that season. I still don't understand how he beat through all those Protosses.
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5268
On May 02 2013 21:23 Kommander wrote:
This group is atheist, Flash had no chance



Wow that's only the third billionth time I've seen that joke.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5269
finished family pizza in new record time. Now my stomach hurts but I'm back to do the next LR. Thanks to whoever stepped in for the last game
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:25:42
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5270
On May 02 2013 21:24 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:22 xAdra wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:19 Killcani wrote:
And parting finishes it off with another imba protoss allin how surprising


cry more Parting won a macro game then he won with an all in, what else do you want him to do?

Protoss wins late game- A+move, EZ race, boring snoozefest
Protoss wins early/mid game- unstoppable a+move all in.

Flash wins with allins all the time. Sorry if you butthurt Flash fans can't handle the awesomeness of Parting.


Dude, we get it. You like the boring race more than the interesting races, but Z and T players realize your race is actually not fun to watch compared to TvZ, TvT, and ZvZ


Parting's Templar PvT style is exciting as fuck, if you weren't excited in Flash vs Parting game 1 when he was holding off Flash's attacks with great storms and barely any units I just don't understand.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5271
Man watching flash play sc2 is so frustrating. Its like he left his brain in bw.
Woo Jung Ho
Gben592
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom281 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5272
On May 02 2013 21:24 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:23 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:21 redviper wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:19 Nomzter wrote:
kespa > kespa


Parting isn't KESPA.

Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.


This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.

I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.


No Jaedong is actually just not that good at sc2 compared to the Code S players, that's why he ran away to NA.

Flash is very good, top 3 Terran, he just wasn't good enough to beat Parting and Bogus today, there's no shame in that.


Exactly, Flash not getting out of this group isn't exactly a bad thing, heck, he put up a damn good fight! But it was THE group of death, with the best players in the world... no shame in losing there
"The more skilled player is the one who wins, and I don't think there's better balance than what we have now." INnoVation
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5273
Ultimate weapon got ultimatly fucked!

I'm not a BW fanboy and i'm always up for ESF->Kespa, but i like to see Flash and JD win because they were so good in BW..

So if Flash wins it's like.. "fuck is getting so good, he will be unstopabble and when he loses it's like.. wait for it.. a few more games and he is the best.."

JD should be better tho..

Hope Life makes it.. sad that parting and life can't both go
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5274
Biggest winner was innovation today.. rolfstomped his group. I thought he wasnt the best terran but he proved me wrong
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#5275
On May 02 2013 21:24 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:22 xAdra wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:19 Killcani wrote:
And parting finishes it off with another imba protoss allin how surprising


cry more Parting won a macro game then he won with an all in, what else do you want him to do?

Protoss wins late game- A+move, EZ race, boring snoozefest
Protoss wins early/mid game- unstoppable a+move all in.

Flash wins with allins all the time. Sorry if you butthurt Flash fans can't handle the awesomeness of Parting.


Dude, we get it. You like the boring race more than the interesting races, but Z and T players realize your race is actually not fun to watch compared to TvZ, TvT, and ZvZ


Because watching Innovation hard-counter Flash's 1 rax CC with 2 rax reaper was so thrilling... And that proxy in game 1, man so much skillful macro.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:26:40
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#5276
On May 02 2013 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
hmm so Flash now plays the winner of MKP/Jangbi right?

no, parting does

flash plays fanta/avenge
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Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#5277
This is the weirdest wubwub I've ever heard :s

Also, gogo Parting!
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#5278
On May 02 2013 21:24 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:23 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:21 redviper wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:19 Nomzter wrote:
kespa > kespa


Parting isn't KESPA.

Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.


This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.

I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.

parting outMICROed flash in game 1, with templars


outPROTOSSed is the right term. Nice play from Parting tho.
Give thanks and praise!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#5279
On May 02 2013 21:24 iiNsAnE wrote:
Honestly I feel like Flash just isn't adapting to his opponents play, he is great when he sets the pace of the game but once his opponent gets ahead or gets to an equal Lategame Flash just falls apart.
He dominated a lot of people with constant aggression but if they can take it without big losses flash just seems to not react right to the opponent especially in the later game. Best example was the game vs Innovation where he just didn't build Vikings and didn't get any antiair against Innovations Medivacs so Inno could just always pick up and leave if a fight went wrong for him. I don't understand how such a mastermind like Flash can just not notice such a simple flaw in his gameplan and react to it.

He is a great player but he seems to be stuck too much towards his gameplan and isn't really good when the game deviates from it.


Yeah, he always get's late ghosts and doesn't appear to be prepared for tech switches.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:26:36
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#5280
On May 02 2013 21:24 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:17 thepuppyassassin wrote:
That crowd must be so disappointed right now... I feel like this happens every time. "Look bw fans! Come and see how well your bw heroes are doing! You see? SC2 is a worthy successor!"
...aaand flash gets last place in the group.

I feel like one of these famous bw pros needs to take the gsl championship... for the health of the Korean scene.

FYI, Innovation advanced in 1st place.... lol

innovation is best TvZer i expected him to beat every Zerg, even the Life-Kid.
And well his TvT is also awesome, especially if you cheese 3x in a BO3.
Would be interesting to see his TvP atm
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