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c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:41:19
April 29 2013 07:38 GMT
#181
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are being made
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
April 29 2013 07:39 GMT
#182
One thing to note though, Soulkey got the best possible position on that map against terran, so it definitely help to defend.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:40:42
April 29 2013 07:40 GMT
#183
On April 29 2013 16:37 groms wrote:
Can STX win when innovation loses? KT somehow did it last week

really unlikely. Different story if hyvaa had won his game.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 29 2013 07:43 GMT
#184
On April 29 2013 16:38 c0sm0naut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less dramatically supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are out.


more people need to use unburrow micro like Lucifron. I haven't seen Korean Terrans do it yet, they just let their mines activate on single lings and then die
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 29 2013 07:45 GMT
#185
On April 29 2013 16:43 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:38 c0sm0naut wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less dramatically supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are out.


more people need to use unburrow micro like Lucifron. I haven't seen Korean Terrans do it yet, they just let their mines activate on single lings and then die


wasn't it innovation in gsl doing that with his drops. unburrow when the lings come and re burrow and it made the 6 marines +1 mine impossible to deal with using lings. I know some terran did that in gsl.
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:48:25
April 29 2013 07:45 GMT
#186
On April 29 2013 16:43 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:38 c0sm0naut wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less dramatically supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are out.


more people need to use unburrow micro like Lucifron. I haven't seen Korean Terrans do it yet, they just let their mines activate on single lings and then die

that is a lot harder to execute than it sounds in the heat of midgame multitasking. Also, not sure if it's worth it cost-wise because you run the risk of losing mines without hitting anything if zerg has mutas/lings nearby to target fire unburrowed mines.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:46:52
April 29 2013 07:45 GMT
#187
On April 29 2013 16:43 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:38 c0sm0naut wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less dramatically supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are out.


more people need to use unburrow micro like Lucifron. I haven't seen Korean Terrans do it yet, they just let their mines activate on single lings and then die


completely agreed, but if you are control clicking them like lucifron and dont have drilling claws, you are playing with fire :p

i think mines have a pretty high skill cap and this is most of it, its just extremely apm intensive so i think as a low speed player i'll stick to macroing and muling nistead of microing my mines
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
April 29 2013 07:47 GMT
#188
Let's also vote for the other 2 games while we still have them in our MINDS MINDS MINDS

Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Flying R4 ?

If you have time (4)
 
57%

Yes (2)
 
29%

No (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Flying R4 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend hyvaa vs. BrAvO R4 ?

Yes (11)
 
85%

No (2)
 
15%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend hyvaa vs. BrAvO R4 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 29 2013 07:47 GMT
#189
Lolyeah. Lucifron should teach fucking Innovation how to play Terran.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 29 2013 07:51 GMT
#190
Are they talking about demuslim right now? He would tilt so bad in this format..
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 29 2013 07:51 GMT
#191
On April 29 2013 16:47 ZenithM wrote:
Lolyeah. Lucifron should teach fucking Innovation how to play Terran.

Haha calm down, everybody has something to learn
jjakji fan
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 29 2013 07:54 GMT
#192
On April 29 2013 16:45 c0sm0naut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:43 Yello wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:38 c0sm0naut wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:35 Highwinds wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:33 c0sm0naut wrote:
honestly SK just showed innovation why he needs to start making tanks again


Tanks on whirlwind! you're too immobile they just ran by you and kill you
Also mutas regen is so crazy it feels like if you have tanks and not mines you just lose. Speaking from personal experience though. not a pro player so maybe they'd handle it better

the thing tho is

top Z are sending in lings, setting off the mines while tehy make more lings. your mines end up inactive and your army becomes even less dramatically supply efficient vs ultra comps. i think you need to watch the muta count, and adjust WM production accordingly, but go full on siege tanks when ultralisks are out.


more people need to use unburrow micro like Lucifron. I haven't seen Korean Terrans do it yet, they just let their mines activate on single lings and then die


completely agreed, but if you are control clicking them like lucifron and dont have drilling claws, you are playing with fire :p

i think mines have a pretty high skill cap and this is most of it, its just extremely apm intensive so i think as a low speed player i'll stick to macroing and muling nistead of microing my mines


yeah, there's still a lot of potential,a lot to improve upon for Terrans. I never said that it was easy.

The problem is, at first Zergs didn't know how to deal with Mines and lost a lot but now Zergs get better and better at playing against them and Terrans need to step up on their game as well now. And I think the most important part to improve upon is the Mine-micro, un-burrowing and re-burrowing and trying to keep them alive with marines and marauders when they are not able to shoot.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 29 2013 07:55 GMT
#193
Whiplash is exciiited about personal questions haha
jjakji fan
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 08:00:27
April 29 2013 07:59 GMT
#194
I'm pretty positive it's Mvp tails' build and nani borrowed/ stole it. He's very fond of Tail's builds
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 29 2013 08:04 GMT
#195
So much for faking a third
jjakji fan
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 29 2013 08:05 GMT
#196
Goodbye lone colossus.
jjakji fan
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 29 2013 08:06 GMT
#197
LOL across-the-map corruption.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
April 29 2013 08:07 GMT
#198
wtf Zero why you hold back. Could've sniped that M.Core.
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
April 29 2013 08:09 GMT
#199
Cool to see someone using corruption
Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
April 29 2013 08:09 GMT
#200
Immortal pretty good unit.
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