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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5021
On April 28 2013 03:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Tbh TvZ is still the most fun matchup to watch in HoTS. While Protoss matchups got a bit better, i still hate to watch them mostly. So 2 PvZ aren't really optimal imo. Ah well, hopefully they won't just be camping into 1 attack GG.


Obviously TvZ is the best match-up.

PvZ will just be about P doing that 2 base timings bla bla bla.
Or Zerg hitting a strong 3 base timing with roach/hydra.
Play your best
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5022
Do want HerO Victories.
Do want PvP Final.
psillypsybic!
fartosis77
Profile Joined February 2013
Belgium461 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5023
On April 28 2013 03:21 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:20 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:19 Ettick wrote:
NaNiwa vs. Leenock finals for the MLG rematch!


Now that is a not so good memory :/



but only because naniwa was tilted to his FFE and got busted by Leenock 4 times in a row. Maybe he changes up a little bit like he did against TLO.

Funniest thing was the two games where the fast expand got canceled before busting with the 6/8 roach push, while a simple scout of a hidden probe or zealot would have been enough to win him both games with a later timing! :D
IM NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5024
On April 28 2013 03:19 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:16 Schelim wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:12 Boucot wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:10 Schelim wrote:
heh, that Flash and Jaedong hype is so weird to watch if you never followed BW.

I didn't and I love it.

really? i don't know why cause i don't understand it.

don't get me wrong, i don't mind them at all, they are good players. but that magic aura just isn't there. Flash plays like a slightly worse clone of MKP when he was at his best (which still makes him really fucking good) and Jaedong is some decent zerg player that can probably hang in Code A. but what makes them so special? i don't know because i never saw them in BW.

Coz they faught each other in almost every final for few consecutive years in BW. They were so fking good that nobody could stop them reaching the finals, so they end up playing each other over and over again.

trust me, i completely understand that. i know why people that watched BW love them. hell, the few times that Grubby and Moon played each other in sc2 i freaked out just the same even though they both, to be frank, sucked ass at the game at the time.

i'm just saying i don't feel the hype for Flash and Jaedong at all because i never followed BW and they are clearly not the very most impressive sc2 players right now (they are very good though, especially Flash). it's just funny to me to see all these people freak out because of these guys.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5025
Oh shit, and we get some MJ.
Moderator
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5026
On April 28 2013 03:21 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:19 dibbaN wrote:
"Woop"?

at the end of the event, DH will ask how many PSY's "op" have been "subtlety inserted on stream

guess the number and win a flight to next dreamhack


The correct answer to that is obviously "Woop?"!
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5027
On April 28 2013 03:16 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:12 Boucot wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:10 Schelim wrote:
heh, that Flash and Jaedong hype is so weird to watch if you never followed BW.

I didn't and I love it.

really? i don't know why cause i don't understand it.

don't get me wrong, i don't mind them at all, they are good players. but that magic aura just isn't there. Flash plays like a slightly worse clone of MKP when he was at his best (which still makes him really fucking good) and Jaedong is some decent zerg player that can probably hang in Code A. but what makes them so special? i don't know because i never saw them in BW.

well based on the fact that you refer to flash at his best as a "slightly worse clone of MKP" kind of says it all. flash plays like flash. he does his best and in sc2, it has often times proven to be pretty effective.

after about a year of televised games, flash has gotten himself into the ro16 in code S. if you don't quite "get" it, i suggest you catch group B of code s ro16 and we will all find out whether the hype has merit or not; 2 esF giants and 2 kespa giants are gonna duke it out in 5 bo3's man, could possibly click for you
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5028
On April 28 2013 03:21 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:21 DOUDOU wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:19 dibbaN wrote:
"Woop"?

at the end of the event, DH will ask how many PSY's "op" have been "subtlety inserted on stream

guess the number and win a flight to next dreamhack

Interesting I didn't know that. Pretty hard to know unless you literally watch the WHOLE stream and count :D

I dont know man. I just happen to catch it every single time

ok Smooth Criminal now...
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5029
Jaedong's ZvP is bad, but if he's been watching Naniwa, he should know exactly what Naniwa is going to do. Unless Naniwa throws in some cheese like that 2 gate against Nestea he did once, he's not going to deviate from his build.
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5030
You've been hit by a smooth dong
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5031
On April 28 2013 03:21 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:19 BlueFlames wrote:
Well Jaedongs ZvP is bad, but people seem to forget that Nani has nerve issues from time to time. And playing against JD on a stage like that is really hard. If Nani can keep it together he could win though. But also dont forget that Coach Park is there. So its really close :-p

But a Jaedong vs HerO final will look incredibly 1 sided. Unless Jaedong's ZvP suddenly became good, its jaedong man, anything can happen....

You speak as if HerO won't choke vs one of the best weekenders around.
ysjayc
Profile Joined December 2010
China70 Posts
April 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#5032
ahhhh i love that mj song!!!!!
Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5033
Who does coach park help if its hero vs jaedong finals? O.o
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5034
On April 28 2013 03:22 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:19 Ettick wrote:
NaNiwa vs. Leenock finals for the MLG rematch!


That was one of the silliest finals I've ever watched. Nothing but roach busts and all ins. So stupid


It was hilarious to see how someone so stubborn can get smashed to oblivion
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
une_certaine_verve
Profile Joined May 2012
342 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5035
Very pleased to see some Protosses making it to the end of a major tournament.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5036
On April 28 2013 03:21 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 03:19 weiliem wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:16 Schelim wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:12 Boucot wrote:
On April 28 2013 03:10 Schelim wrote:
heh, that Flash and Jaedong hype is so weird to watch if you never followed BW.

I didn't and I love it.

really? i don't know why cause i don't understand it.

don't get me wrong, i don't mind them at all, they are good players. but that magic aura just isn't there. Flash plays like a slightly worse clone of MKP when he was at his best (which still makes him really fucking good) and Jaedong is some decent zerg player that can probably hang in Code A. but what makes them so special? i don't know because i never saw them in BW.

Coz they faught each other in almost every final for few consecutive years in BW. They were so fking good that nobody could stop them reaching the finals, so they end up playing each other over and over again.


I literally only looked this up about an hour ago...

But in relation to the above
(on Jaedong's Wiki)

Most Played Head-To-Heads

Against Games Record Bo5 Bo3 Singles
Flash 49 24–25 (49%) 3–3 1–3 8–7
Stork 27 13–14 (48%) 2–0 4–2 0–5
Light 23 12–11 (52%) 1–0 3–0 3–3

So he played Flash almost TWICE as much as the next person. Thats a pretty epic period of two gamers mauling people.

The more telling of their dominance is the fact that they've played 6 separate Bo5's!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5037
On April 28 2013 03:23 Myles wrote:
Oh shit, and we get some MJ.


hide the kids
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5038
On April 28 2013 03:23 sitromit wrote:
Jaedong's ZvP is bad, but if he's been watching Naniwa, he should know exactly what Naniwa is going to do. Unless Naniwa throws in some cheese like that 2 gate against Nestea he did once, he's not going to deviate from his build.

coach park will give him the power.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5039
Michael Jaedongson got the moves
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#5040
Oh wow, I wasn't very convinced about the music but this is amazing.

On April 28 2013 03:17 dani` wrote:
Haha those Finnish people have such a funny accent <3

Finnish accent is my #1 ugliest English accent in the world by a landslide. Working hard to remove mine since 10 years ago.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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