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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 03:56 GMT
#5341
Comm won't be able to play in the challenger league qualifier most likely.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#5342
On April 22 2013 12:54 sitromit wrote:
So there will be 16 spots for NA Code A up for grabs among:

Taeja, JYP, Sage, Hwangsin, Center, Hyun, Jaedong, Miya, Zenio for Koreans and the Chinese players who appear to be a tier above NA players.

That's 9 Koreans, and the Chinese will be MacSed, Comm, Jim, Top and XY, that's 5, makes 14 total.


Insane.... the code A looks allmost harder then code s
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#5343
On April 22 2013 12:56 Dodgin wrote:
Comm won't be able to play in the challenger league qualifier most likely.

After what happened with the Chinese and especially Comm, I'd be shocked if they didn't seed all the Chinese into the qualifier.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 03:58 GMT
#5344
On April 22 2013 12:52 suicideyear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:40 Branman wrote:
At least Demuslim should be a lock to qualify for NA Code A. He should have the highest seed and be matched up against people who lost pretty early. Since half of the invitees for the NA Code S aren't nearly as good as him, he'll probably make it into next season's Code S.


Better hope the NA Challenger qualifiers go smoothly.


It will be interesting to see if MLG actually schedules around Dreamhack for the Challenger league qualifier. Many of the Koreans in the Challenger league qualifier are headed over for that. They also probably need to get it done this week because actual NA Code S matches begin being played next week.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 22 2013 03:58 GMT
#5345
Suddenly, Revival, Heart, Alive, and Apocalypse are banned for PlayXP! Demuslim, PhysicsLee, Catz (because why not), and ... Jaedong (just because) are let in!
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 22 2013 03:58 GMT
#5346
I know this sounds bad, but I have very little interest in WCS now, knowing how few NA players there are to follow.

I'm sure die-hard fans get off on seeing their favorite korean players, but the lack of participants from NA, China or anywhere other than Korea is pretty boring.

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 03:58 GMT
#5347
We can only hope that they will actually do that but I imagine it will be more like " Comm broke the rules, so his placement in the premier qualifiers doesn't actually exist so he cannot play in the challenger league qualifiers which is made up of 9th-40th place in the premier qualifier. "
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 03:59 GMT
#5348
On April 22 2013 12:54 sitromit wrote:
So there will be 16 spots for NA Code A up for grabs among:

Taeja, JYP, Sage, Hwangsin, Center, Hyun, Jaedong, Miya, Zenio for Koreans and the Chinese players who appear to be a tier above NA players.

That's 9 Koreans, and the Chinese will be MacSed, Comm, Jim, Top and XY, that's 5, makes 14 total.


Taeja and Hyun can't play in the Code A qualifier because they didn't finish in the top 40 of the Code S qualifier. Same with Jim, Comm, and XY.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:01:32
April 22 2013 04:00 GMT
#5349
On April 22 2013 12:07 tribulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:01 HeeroFX wrote:
So we don't know who qualfied?????? Sad about Demu....

We know the 4 from last night's WB (TheSTC, Crank, Alicia, Oz). We also know Revival (defeated demu 2-1) and Apocalypse (walk over Comm due to DQ).

The 2 we aren't sure of yet are the winner of Alive/Macsed and the winner of Heart/TOP.

Unless people were lying, we know those results, guess and you will be correct if you think there will be even more anger

@Branman, i think taeja and hyun are already invited to it, which is why hyun was dq'd
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 22 2013 04:03 GMT
#5350
On April 22 2013 12:59 Branman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:54 sitromit wrote:
So there will be 16 spots for NA Code A up for grabs among:

Taeja, JYP, Sage, Hwangsin, Center, Hyun, Jaedong, Miya, Zenio for Koreans and the Chinese players who appear to be a tier above NA players.

That's 9 Koreans, and the Chinese will be MacSed, Comm, Jim, Top and XY, that's 5, makes 14 total.


Taeja and Hyun can't play in the Code A qualifier because they didn't finish in the top 40 of the Code S qualifier. Same with Jim, Comm, and XY.


That would make zero sense. The whole point of the Code S exception for Taeja and Hyun was to allow them to qualify for Code A this season in the reason they're switching to, so if they can manage, they can be in Code S for the new region next season.

Also, there's the screenshot of that MLG admin telling Chinese players who were left out that they can seed them into the Code A qualifiers to compensate.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 04:03 GMT
#5351
On April 22 2013 13:00 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:07 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:01 HeeroFX wrote:
So we don't know who qualfied?????? Sad about Demu....

We know the 4 from last night's WB (TheSTC, Crank, Alicia, Oz). We also know Revival (defeated demu 2-1) and Apocalypse (walk over Comm due to DQ).

The 2 we aren't sure of yet are the winner of Alive/Macsed and the winner of Heart/TOP.

Unless people were lying, we know those results, guess and you will be correct if you think there will be even more anger

@Branman, i think taeja and hyun are already invited to it, which is why hyun was dq'd


Not sure, he was DQed because he already played in KR Code S this season. They've already stated the rules that the 40-9 in today's qualifier would go onto the NA Code A qualifier. Including them would once again be a huge violation of their own stated policy.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 22 2013 04:05 GMT
#5352
On April 22 2013 13:03 Branman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:00 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:07 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:01 HeeroFX wrote:
So we don't know who qualfied?????? Sad about Demu....

We know the 4 from last night's WB (TheSTC, Crank, Alicia, Oz). We also know Revival (defeated demu 2-1) and Apocalypse (walk over Comm due to DQ).

The 2 we aren't sure of yet are the winner of Alive/Macsed and the winner of Heart/TOP.

Unless people were lying, we know those results, guess and you will be correct if you think there will be even more anger

@Branman, i think taeja and hyun are already invited to it, which is why hyun was dq'd


Not sure, he was DQed because he already played in KR Code S this season. They've already stated the rules that the 40-9 in today's qualifier would go onto the NA Code A qualifier. Including them would once again be a huge violation of their own stated policy.

You don't seem to understand the rules for this very well. He was DQ'ed because he is actually only allowed to play in the Code A qualifier, like Taeja.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 22 2013 04:06 GMT
#5353
On April 22 2013 13:03 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:59 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:54 sitromit wrote:
So there will be 16 spots for NA Code A up for grabs among:

Taeja, JYP, Sage, Hwangsin, Center, Hyun, Jaedong, Miya, Zenio for Koreans and the Chinese players who appear to be a tier above NA players.

That's 9 Koreans, and the Chinese will be MacSed, Comm, Jim, Top and XY, that's 5, makes 14 total.


Taeja and Hyun can't play in the Code A qualifier because they didn't finish in the top 40 of the Code S qualifier. Same with Jim, Comm, and XY.


That would make zero sense. The whole point of the Code S exception for Taeja and Hyun was to allow them to qualify for Code A this season in the reason they're switching to, so if they can manage, they can be in Code S for the new region next season.

Also, there's the screenshot of that MLG admin telling Chinese players who were left out that they can seed them into the Code A qualifiers to compensate.

how do we know he didn't mean they can queue for Code A? is there any ambiguous language?
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Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:07:28
April 22 2013 04:06 GMT
#5354
On April 22 2013 13:03 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:59 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:54 sitromit wrote:
So there will be 16 spots for NA Code A up for grabs among:

Taeja, JYP, Sage, Hwangsin, Center, Hyun, Jaedong, Miya, Zenio for Koreans and the Chinese players who appear to be a tier above NA players.

That's 9 Koreans, and the Chinese will be MacSed, Comm, Jim, Top and XY, that's 5, makes 14 total.


Taeja and Hyun can't play in the Code A qualifier because they didn't finish in the top 40 of the Code S qualifier. Same with Jim, Comm, and XY.


That would make zero sense. The whole point of the Code S exception for Taeja and Hyun was to allow them to qualify for Code A this season in the reason they're switching to, so if they can manage, they can be in Code S for the new region next season.

Also, there's the screenshot of that MLG admin telling Chinese players who were left out that they can seed them into the Code A qualifiers to compensate.


If they do that, then it will be complete bullshit to favor players who didn't play in the tournament with their stated rules over actual North Americans who did.

Stated policy:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408561#8

EDIT:
On April 22 2013 13:05 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:03 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 13:00 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:07 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:01 HeeroFX wrote:
So we don't know who qualfied?????? Sad about Demu....

We know the 4 from last night's WB (TheSTC, Crank, Alicia, Oz). We also know Revival (defeated demu 2-1) and Apocalypse (walk over Comm due to DQ).

The 2 we aren't sure of yet are the winner of Alive/Macsed and the winner of Heart/TOP.

Unless people were lying, we know those results, guess and you will be correct if you think there will be even more anger

@Branman, i think taeja and hyun are already invited to it, which is why hyun was dq'd


Not sure, he was DQed because he already played in KR Code S this season. They've already stated the rules that the 40-9 in today's qualifier would go onto the NA Code A qualifier. Including them would once again be a huge violation of their own stated policy.

You don't seem to understand the rules for this very well. He was DQ'ed because he is actually only allowed to play in the Code A qualifier, like Taeja.


Except that the qualifier to get into the Code A qualifier was the Code S qualifier
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 22 2013 04:07 GMT
#5355
They say 9-40th will get an invite, they don't say those will be the ONLY invites.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 22 2013 04:08 GMT
#5356
On April 22 2013 12:58 Defacer wrote:
I know this sounds bad, but I have very little interest in WCS now, knowing how few NA players there are to follow.

I'm sure die-hard fans get off on seeing their favorite korean players, but the lack of participants from NA, China or anywhere other than Korea is pretty boring.



I second this actually. If I want the best players in the world, I go to GSL. I don't want those players jumping ship for NA. It just leads to two diluted tournaments anyways. Quality overall goes down everywhere, and we have no national people to cheer for. Meh.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:09:20
April 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#5357
On April 22 2013 13:07 sitromit wrote:
They say 9-40th will get an invite, they don't say those will be the ONLY invites.


Yeah but why are the invites at all? It's so weird, when you consider that the challenger league qualifiers for EU will be open.

Also 9th-40th is 32 players, perfect for a bracket.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#5358
that's a pretty small qualifier. I guess it's win 1 game and you're in like the MLG showdowns?
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#5359
On April 22 2013 13:09 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:07 sitromit wrote:
They say 9-40th will get an invite, they don't say those will be the ONLY invites.


Yeah but why are the invites at all? It's so weird, when you consider that the challenger league qualifiers for EU will be open.

Also 9th-40th is 32 players, perfect for a bracket.


I don't know, it's MLG, they want to avoid another clusterfuck of a tournament I suppose.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 22 2013 04:10 GMT
#5360
On April 22 2013 13:07 sitromit wrote:
They say 9-40th will get an invite, they don't say those will be the ONLY invites.


Given that it's 16 spots, I would imagine more than 32 players are playing for it.
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