EPTOn April 07 2013 12:50 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played.
Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played.
i only wish it were a bit greener
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rj rl
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i only wish it were a bit greener | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote: just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
go to the esportstv youtube | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
korean streammm | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embedded There you go. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core. All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS. If TvP is good, it's just another good WoL TvP. HOTS's TvP is very uninspiring and basically nothing changed.. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1958 Posts
Yeah, some grass would make it better to look at. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote: Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"? Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on. ZvZ was terrible unless you liked Ling/Muta wars..every single freakin game unless the players name was Zero. SC2 ZvZ is more dynamic. PvP was a lot more fun though than SC2 IMO. Those reavers made the game intense. TvT...relatively the same right now as SC2: HoTS to SC:BW TvZ....still pretty good TvP...SC:BW is better...but I dont know why...somethings off..but I seriously have to check out this Hero/Baby game. PvZ..Relatively even. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote: How is 10x better than WoL? It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core. All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS. Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:50 LighT. wrote: To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements. I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful. Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well. Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units. Overall, it's SC2's clumping behaviour that is the main subject of complaint regarding deathballs. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:53 opterown wrote: the kespa mapmakers are the exact same dudes who made the GSL sc2 maps man Well, in Proleague there is more room for experimentation. GSL does have too (Icarus is probably one of the most unusual maps) but Proleague allows map makers to be a bit more creative with the maps. On April 07 2013 12:56 purakushi wrote: Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units. Yeah, that's why any match up involving Protoss in WoL is bad. It's "turtle till 200/200", then attack, then game over. It wasn't a "tug of war" or back and forth game like BW. PvT in BW was at least tug of war and back and forth, even if it's "deathballs". | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:56 LighT. wrote: ZvZ was terrible unless you liked Ling/Muta wars..every single freakin game unless the players name was Zero. SC2 ZvZ is more dynamic. PvP was a lot more fun though than SC2 IMO. Those reavers made the game intense. TvT...relatively the same right now as SC2: HoTS to SC:BW TvZ....still pretty good TvP...SC:BW is better...but I dont know why...somethings off..but I seriously have to check out this Hero/Baby game. PvZ..Relatively even. I like TvT in SC2 more for its variety and I like PvZ in BW more than SC2. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote: Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? The one known as the Oracle. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:56 purakushi wrote: Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units. Overall, it's SC2's clumping behaviour that is the main subject of complaint regarding deathballs. I dont but the "utilize individual units" because you see that all the time in SC2. But yea...the clumping issue definitely. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
It's okay, most people are too strung up on units compositions because they are used to max versus max, where that matters most. Instead, games are turning more and more into actually outplaying your opponent, utilizing each unit (even if it is technically crappy against the enemy's) to its fullest. The new units, changes to old units, metagame, better players, and a host of other other reasons "allow" for this sort of play with the old units even though they were available in WoL. Just remember: The players should orchestrate the gameplay, not the units. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:55 Kieofire wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embedded There you go. I'm german T_T Gema blocks pretty much everything in their war against Youtube here, even Proleague. Is there a VLC stream or something? | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
How does oracle changes unit composition? Everyone builds one, and it's out of the army. And oh yeah! We have an oracle. Such a huge change in unit composition right now! | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote: Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely... | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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