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Poll: Who's gonna win?CJ NATION!!! (30) 73% UNDEFEATED TEAM EIGHTH (11) 27% 41 total votes Your vote: Who's gonna win? (Vote): CJ NATION!!!
(Vote): UNDEFEATED TEAM EIGHTH
Poll: Best new map so far?Fighting Spirit (20) 69% Sentry Station (4) 14% Korhal Dual Spawn Island (4) 14% Newkirk Remix (1) 3% 29 total votes Your vote: Best new map so far? (Vote): Fighting Spirit
(Vote): Sentry Station
(Vote): Korhal Dual Spawn Island
(Vote): Newkirk Remix
Poll: Argo?Great (18) 46% Good, not Oscar-worthy (12) 31% Bad, cant recall (9) 23% 39 total votes Your vote: Argo? (Vote): Great
(Vote): Good, not Oscar-worthy
(Vote): Bad, cant recall
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hope we can see entertaining matches.
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I didn't put Jaehoon on my anti team for the first time this season for round 4, he better not start losing now.
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Man I feel like HoTS and especially HoTS on SPL will become something very good.  KT vs SKT1 was so fun yesterday!
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gogo cj! I want to see efforts ZvT in hots, gonna be good I bet
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Sweet, the best match is on fighting spirit. Hoping to get to know this map better in the context of sc2.
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GO Baby!! (why do they all have to change their id's?) >.<
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guess we will see some nice matches.
May the better one win!
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Prediction
TY < herO
Terminator > Bbyong
Cure < EffOrt
TRUE < Hydra
Argo > sKyHigh
Savage > Bong
Argo < herO
Team 8 3 - 4 CJ Entus
Best Scenario (for my FPL)
TY < herO
Terminator < Bbyong
Cure > EffOrt
TRUE < Hydra
Argo < sKyHigh
Team 8 1 - 4 CJ Entus
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This is gonna go to the ace with Hydra winning it.
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I don't have any players for CJ or T8 on my roster...
*shrugs*
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This match should be a lot closer than the eg-tl match will probably be. Lots of matches I can't tell who will win.
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I have been out of the scene for quite a while, how does the current Team 8 fare overall? I gather they're doing great from the op, but still 
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On April 07 2013 11:39 Nikon wrote:I have been out of the scene for quite a while, how does the current Team 8 fare overall? I gather they're doing great from the op, but still
They're 7th place out of 8 in Proleague.
Still better than EG-TL.
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On April 07 2013 11:41 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 11:39 Nikon wrote:I have been out of the scene for quite a while, how does the current Team 8 fare overall? I gather they're doing great from the op, but still They're 7th place out of 8 in Proleague. Still better than EG-TL.
Not so far from what I remember then... and the polls saying UNDEFEATED TEAM EIGHT got my hopes up 
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TY > herO
Terminator < Bbyong
Cure < EffOrt
TRUE < Hydra
Argo > sKyHigh
Savage > Bong
prob effort/hydra vs ty/jaehoon for ace
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On April 07 2013 11:42 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 11:41 gobbledydook wrote:On April 07 2013 11:39 Nikon wrote:I have been out of the scene for quite a while, how does the current Team 8 fare overall? I gather they're doing great from the op, but still They're 7th place out of 8 in Proleague. Still better than EG-TL. Not so far from what I remember then... and the polls saying UNDEFEATED TEAM EIGHT got my hopes up
Well they are undefeated in the round so far, but that is because the round is just starting for them,
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CJ winning with either a hydra or herO ace victory would be great
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On April 07 2013 11:45 opterown wrote:
CJ winning with either a hydra or herO ace victory would be great
As long as Bbyong wins and picks me up points along the way I am fine with that.
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On April 07 2013 11:42 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 11:41 gobbledydook wrote:On April 07 2013 11:39 Nikon wrote:I have been out of the scene for quite a while, how does the current Team 8 fare overall? I gather they're doing great from the op, but still They're 7th place out of 8 in Proleague. Still better than EG-TL. Not so far from what I remember then... and the polls saying UNDEFEATED TEAM EIGHT got my hopes up
because they wear UNDFTD's outfit xD
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Uh, is there a Korean-language stream. I'm just used to hearing Korean when watching Proleague>_>
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Effort looks so different good today o_o
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Korean Youtube Stream:
+ Show Spoiler +
English Youtuibe Stream:
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The korean stream have lower quality than the English one but you can easily time them up with each other.
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oh wow there's an english youtube stream now?
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Neither youtube stream is working for me "An error occurred. Please try again laster."
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On April 07 2013 12:05 opterown wrote:
oh wow there's an english youtube stream now?
Yeah they added it with this season and the Korean vods etc have added quality to them and are no longer region locked(stream that is).
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On April 07 2013 12:06 larse wrote:
Empty ever forever
All PL threads are empty if they don't involve SKT, KT or EG-TL.
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On April 07 2013 12:08 stuchiu wrote:All PL threads are empty if they don't involve SKT, KT or EG-TL.
EG-TL I can understand, but SKT T1 and KT? What's tha rationale behind that?
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On April 07 2013 12:08 stuchiu wrote:All PL threads are empty if they don't involve SKT, KT or EG-TL.
Which was not the case back then.
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uhh so how to watch this? the youtube streams do not work for me
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On April 07 2013 12:09 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:08 stuchiu wrote:On April 07 2013 12:06 larse wrote:
Empty ever forever All PL threads are empty if they don't involve SKT, KT or EG-TL. EG-TL I can understand, but SKT T1 and KT? What's tha rationale behind that?
SKT has all the pretty boy protoss players and Boxer. KT has Flash.
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On April 07 2013 12:09 whoso wrote:
uhh so how to watch this? the youtube streams do not work for me
Think it's blocked in Germany, you can use various browser extensions to bypass it if you can't watch it via the official Twitch channel.
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On April 07 2013 12:12 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:09 whoso wrote:
uhh so how to watch this? the youtube streams do not work for me Think it's blocked in Germany, you can use various browser extensions to bypass it if you can't watch it via the official Twitch channel.
Why stream is blocked in Germany?
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On April 07 2013 12:12 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:12 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 12:09 whoso wrote:
uhh so how to watch this? the youtube streams do not work for me Think it's blocked in Germany, you can use various browser extensions to bypass it if you can't watch it via the official Twitch channel. Why stream is blocked in Germany?
I can't remember but it's some music/broadcast group that have it blocked.
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On April 07 2013 12:04 Tobblish wrote:
The korean stream have lower quality than the English one but you can easily time them up with each other.
How do you sync them? Twitch is ahead of youtube, if I pause and unpause twitch it just reloads live.
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ok well now the KR stream is back and lag-free, that's pretty much exclusively what i will watch haha
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On April 07 2013 12:16 KillerDucky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:04 Tobblish wrote:
The korean stream have lower quality than the English one but you can easily time them up with each other. How do you sync them? Twitch is ahead of youtube, if I pause and unpause twitch it just reloads live.
Was in regards to syncing the youtube streams up.
I can't even watch it via Twitch because it lags too much.
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On April 07 2013 12:16 KillerDucky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:04 Tobblish wrote:
The korean stream have lower quality than the English one but you can easily time them up with each other. How do you sync them? Twitch is ahead of youtube, if I pause and unpause twitch it just reloads live.
No you basically can't time them.
That dude was just incorrect
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On April 07 2013 12:17 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:16 KillerDucky wrote:On April 07 2013 12:04 Tobblish wrote:
The korean stream have lower quality than the English one but you can easily time them up with each other. How do you sync them? Twitch is ahead of youtube, if I pause and unpause twitch it just reloads live. No you basically can't time them. That dude was just incorrect
Nope.
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Of course you can time the youtube ones. But not with the twitch one.
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On April 07 2013 12:19 larse wrote:
Of course you can time the youtube ones. But not with the twitch one.
he was talking about the youtube ones not the twitch ones, obviously
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On April 07 2013 12:20 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:19 larse wrote:
Of course you can time the youtube ones. But not with the twitch one. he was talking about the youtube ones not the twitch ones, obviously
okok
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Man, OGN still haven't fixed the screen size.
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On April 07 2013 12:20 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:19 larse wrote:
Of course you can time the youtube ones. But not with the twitch one. he was talking about the youtube ones not the twitch ones, obviously
Exactly, sent him a response to it via PM.
Don't want to derail or infect a LR thread.
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Annoying that they still haven't fixed the aspect ratio and names for the English stream.
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omg the Korean youtube is lagging so bad for me
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there's some heavy interlacing on the youtube eng stream
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ty opens with mine for contain but his effort is thwarted with a nexus cannon from hero.
Hero's oracle is lured into the mine in ty's mineral line.
Hero then snipes ty's retreating medivac with a phoenix.
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On April 07 2013 12:24 opterown wrote:
there's some heavy interlacing on the youtube eng stream
Noticed this as well, wasn't the case yesterday..
DAMMIT tt
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Just started watching. Is this a tank and turret contain?!
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I can't be the only one who is bothered by the team color hp bars. Why do they keep using it?
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That was an interesting revelation.
This push looks nasty.
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ty's tank/viking/raven push took out hero's expansion.
Hero responds with harassment with his VRs and oracle.
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i am really liking ty's TvP.
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On April 07 2013 12:27 ixzenxi wrote:
I can't be the only one who is bothered by the team color hp bars. Why do they keep using it?
They bother me too. Especially when one of the players is red. Though the team logo on the command centers is the hotness.
What also bothers me is the fact that twitch is completely not working, and the TL link freezes on initial start up. I'm seriously going to rage if i have to hear that stupid *** Rihanna song again. Fuuuuuuuu!!!!!!
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this is a pretty fun game goooo heroooo
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On April 07 2013 12:30 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:27 ixzenxi wrote:
I can't be the only one who is bothered by the team color hp bars. Why do they keep using it? They bother me too. Especially when one of the players is red. Though the team logo on the command centers is the hotness. What also bothers me is the fact that twitch is completely not working, and the TL link freezes on initial start up. I'm seriously going to rage if i have to hear that stupid *** Rihanna song again. Fuuuuuuuu!!!!!!
Yeah, team colour HP bars are dumb.
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This game is quite interesting so far
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Whiplash: Great feedback on vikings!
SNM: Excellent feedback on the vikings.
lol.
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baby is still up a lot in supply =/
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I feel like kespa players really like hidden expansions
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oracle is a seriously well designed unit - love the way Hero's handling it.
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I am going to punch my internet in the face. Both fighting spirit games played now I have not been able to watch live because my internet randomly decided to be shit...
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People are missing quite a good fucking game.
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Great game. Hurry TL, get the stream on the right (it hasn't link to the twitch page yet).
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This defense by herO is going great so far, along with the hidden expansion.
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On April 07 2013 12:34 Die4Ever wrote:
I feel like kespa players really like hidden expansions
People don't scout for them nearly enough, imo.
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One doesn't simply give up building tanks vP on Fighting Spirit. BW habits too strong
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Wow gets TY's natural CC!
and recalls out.
This game is awesome.
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Oh snap this game is badass. I am digging it.
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Holy shit this is a classy game from herO
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holy crap hero is awesome
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lol why did TY send his entire army to kill 12 oclock?
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Amazing comeback by hero....
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Really scrappy game we got going. Too bad Ty committed too much to denying Hero's third.
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why the fuck baby took all his army to kill the hidden base?
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On April 07 2013 12:36 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:34 Die4Ever wrote:
I feel like kespa players really like hidden expansions People don't scout for them nearly enough, imo.
agreed
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This game looks pretty awesome, wish I could see more than a picture show >.<
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On April 07 2013 12:36 Goldfish wrote:
Great game. Hurry TL, get the stream on the right (it hasn't link to the twitch page yet).
This seriously is a great game. For once, PvT in SC2 isn't being turtley. Good back and forth game.
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Hots has not failed to deliver thus far
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holy god. this. game.
awesome!
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With team colour HP bars what happens to Protoss when they are blue?
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This is way more entertaining than any deathball vs deathball.
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What a nice game. They cant go over 100 food
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Great game, not deathball vs deathball. Games without colossi are so much more fun.
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32min in the game and they are only on 100ish supply lol
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fighting spirit seems really fun so far
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On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map!
Very much both... map and game really good.
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Micro, macro.
not that deathball BS.
Say heyl to proleague 
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That game was so sick, thought hero was 100% dead
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great comeback from hero!!!
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OMG such a great game. :o
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It's unreal how far CJ's come from -_-
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hero sooo good man wow cant believe he pulled that off
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great game by hero, what a comeback
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Anyone have a link to the korean stream? youtube/esportstv has the english one
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Goddamn hero how are you so good and handsome.
That was a siiiiiiiiiiick game.
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What a game. Well played by herO, so much non-stop action.
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Okay. I forgot about SPL.
Did I just miss an amazing game?
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Now that was a great game, and a good comeback for hero too!
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On April 07 2013 12:42 opterown wrote:
STORMM
Read that in Sayle's voice.
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Well played by hero. Great game to start off.
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Amazing game by herO really.
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Hollyshittt. herO! Fantasy points!!
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On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map!
Eventually no one will play anything else.
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wow great comeback and baby wtf was that....=/
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What a sick fucking game.
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herO should train on casting storm maybe just a bit
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baby did one big mistake when he bring all his army to kill the hidden bast should have took only a little squad to kill it
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Incredible game. We need more of these. See what happens when we don't have deathball vs deathball.
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That game was sick! Such clutch play from hero.
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omg that was such a crazy game
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On April 07 2013 12:45 LighT. wrote:
Okay. I forgot about SPL.
Did I just miss an amazing game?
It was cool.
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On April 07 2013 12:45 LighT. wrote:
Okay. I forgot about SPL.
Did I just miss an amazing game?
definitely
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Extremely unclutch by Baby
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Wow so glad I decided to watch the first half of that game on my phone while I was watching bball. Sick game, herO so good.
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On April 07 2013 12:45 LighT. wrote:
Okay. I forgot about SPL.
Did I just miss an amazing game?
One of the most back and forth PvT's I've ever seen.
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Poll: Recommend herO vs. TY?Fuck yea (93) 97% lol no (3) 3% If you have time (0) 0% 96 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs. TY? (Vote): Fuck yea
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): lol no
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Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better.
It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far.
Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys !
Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch.
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hero....u sexy beast u....
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On April 07 2013 12:45 LighT. wrote:
Okay. I forgot about SPL.
Did I just miss an amazing game?
When you see the vod youll want to kill himself
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You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel.
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Oh poor TY. Nice job by herO !!
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Damn, proleague has been DELIVERING on good games for HOTS.
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On April 07 2013 12:45 opterown wrote:Poll: Recommend herO vs. TY?Fuck yea (93) 97% lol no (3) 3% If you have time (0) 0% 96 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs. TY? (Vote): Fuck yea
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): lol no
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On April 07 2013 12:45 opterown wrote:Poll: Recommend herO vs. TY?Fuck yea (93) 97% lol no (3) 3% If you have time (0) 0% 96 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs. TY? (Vote): Fuck yea
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): lol no
how come you copy my biased poll =)
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herO is showing the awesome strategy side of starcraft :D
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Come on Bbyong. Give me points and crush this protoss scum!
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And yet herO still cant seem to perform anywhere but proleague despite all this sexy skill
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TY made a lot of mistakes.He could easily win this game.
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On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel.
Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2?
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Both TY and herO maintained their composure and made really good decisions and controlled their units really well all throughout that game. Many players would get nervous and play scrappy when they can't turtle and get a comfortable deathball or timing.
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On April 07 2013 12:45 stuchiu wrote:
It was cool.
On April 07 2013 12:45 negativedge wrote:
definitely
On April 07 2013 12:45 Rockafella wrote:
One of the most back and forth PvT's I've ever seen.
On April 07 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:
It was a lot of fun. Both players made quite a lot of mistakes though (especially TY).
On April 07 2013 12:46 Taipoka wrote:When you see the vod youll want to kill himself
God damn it
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There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing.
Edit - Also nice to see the stream finished.
Also I'm okay with the down time being just the team's current score and match ups (I'm tired of the "mind mind mind" we had yesterday >.>).
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On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better. It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far. Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys ! Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch.
The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact.
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herO would have died, if Baby only sent small group to kill the ninja
it was a won game for Baby there, and he made a huge mistake which turned it around
i mean, it should be obvious that when the ninja guy sees you scouted him, he goes to attack you, because you will be sending some army to the ninja
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On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing.
I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype.
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On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing.
The main thing is the production, it's still lacking a lot that could be fixed so easily it's sad
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On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype.
just watch the korean stream
it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't)
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On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map! Eventually no one will play anything else. Daybreak 2.0...
Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played.
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To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements.
I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful.
Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well.
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On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map! Eventually no one will play anything else. Daybreak 2.0...
But does it win the Nestea award?
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On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't)
I can live with it, I'm just saying that others don't want to put up with it. Personally, I like listening and learning how I can better understand an articulate as a player by how not to do it a lot of the time.
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On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing.
Edit - Also nice to see the stream finished.
Also I'm okay with the down time being just the team's current score and match ups (I'm tired of the "mind mind mind" we had yesterday >.>).
Try not to worry so much about how many people are watching and how much attention It's getting and just enjoy it. We have our little community here on TL and that's enough for me.
Last night there were 14.5k peak viewers on twitch for KHAN vs STX, It's not doing that poorly.
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On April 07 2013 12:51 opterown wrote:
LOL are they hyping bear
I missed it what happened?
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On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel. Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2? Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"? Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on.
When Bisu loses to a hydra bust for the umpteeth time when trying to qualify for <insert tournament here>, then yeah it's probably not going to be recommended >.>.
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On April 07 2013 12:51 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing.
Edit - Also nice to see the stream finished.
Also I'm okay with the down time being just the team's current score and match ups (I'm tired of the "mind mind mind" we had yesterday >.>). Try not to worry so much about how many people are watching and how much attention It's getting and just enjoy it. We have our little community here on TL and that's enough for me. Last night there were 14.5k peak viewers on twitch for KHAN vs STX, It's not doing that poorly.
It's also at an awful time for either Europeans or Americans depending on the match. The division of the market cannot be a good thing for viewership.
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On April 07 2013 12:48 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better. It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far. Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys ! Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch. The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact.
Theres more to that IMO.
The KeSPA map makers are more used to the gameplay of SC2 now.
They know the adjustments and the kind of maps to make thus some amazing maps like Sanctuary and FS coming into play.
The players are also used to the UI and the units abilities, save a few.
So it's a combination of players developing new strategies for a relatively novel game and translating better as opposed to SC:BW to SC2: WoL.
A great combination.
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 12:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:I missed it what happened?
played some video about STX and KHAN and they had a segment where they fulldoomzoomed into bear's player card lol
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On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel. Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2?
HotS has done an great job at improving the gameplay of SC2, so what you hear about BW > SC2 is BW > WoL. In BW, games do not end in one huge 15 second battle. When people see good games in SC2, they just watched a back and forth game. BW was a game that allowed for more back and forth and things are not as all-inny or committed as they are in SC2. That and mechanics alone can bring yourself back in a game.
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On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel. Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2? Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"? Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on.
BW games were (in my opinion) generally more interesting compared to Wol games. Even the bad BW games were better than average WoL ones.
Hydra bust was a zerg all in against protoss where you built Hydras and attacked, pretty much. Some BW zerg players were well known for only being able to Hydra bust against protoss.
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 12:53 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:48 Hrrrrm wrote:On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better. It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far. Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys ! Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch. The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact. Theres more to that IMO. The KeSPA map makers are more used to the gameplay of SC2 now. They know the adjustments and the kind of maps to make thus some amazing maps like Sanctuary and FS coming into play. The players are also used to the UI and the units abilities, save a few. So it's a combination of players developing new strategies for a relatively novel game and translating better as opposed to SC:BW to SC2: WoL. A great combination.
the kespa mapmakers are the exact same dudes who made the GSL sc2 maps man
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On April 07 2013 12:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 07 2013 12:51 opterown wrote:
LOL are they hyping bear I missed it what happened? played some video about STX and KHAN and they had a segment where they fulldoomzoomed into bear's player card lol
I'm still waiting for IEG to do an interview with him about being the UWC
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On April 07 2013 12:50 Just_a_Moth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map! Eventually no one will play anything else. Daybreak 2.0... Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played.
i only wish it were a bit greener
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Fenrax
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On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't)
Link? couldnt find in OP.
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 12:54 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP.
go to the esportstv youtube
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On April 07 2013 12:54 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embedded
There you go.
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How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
If TvP is good, it's just another good WoL TvP.
HOTS's TvP is very uninspiring and basically nothing changed..
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On April 07 2013 12:54 rj rl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:50 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map! Eventually no one will play anything else. Daybreak 2.0... Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played. i only wish it were a bit greener
Yeah, some grass would make it better to look at.
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On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel. Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2? Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"? Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on.
ZvZ was terrible unless you liked Ling/Muta wars..every single freakin game unless the players name was Zero. SC2 ZvZ is more dynamic.
PvP was a lot more fun though than SC2 IMO. Those reavers made the game intense.
TvT...relatively the same right now as SC2: HoTS to SC:BW
TvZ....still pretty good
TvP...SC:BW is better...but I dont know why...somethings off..but I seriously have to check out this Hero/Baby game.
PvZ..Relatively even.
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On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring.
what is this... I don't even...
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On April 07 2013 12:50 LighT. wrote:
To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements.
I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful.
Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well.
Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units.
Overall, it's SC2's clumping behaviour that is the main subject of complaint regarding deathballs.
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On April 07 2013 12:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:53 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Hrrrrm wrote:On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better. It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far. Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys ! Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch. The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact. Theres more to that IMO. The KeSPA map makers are more used to the gameplay of SC2 now. They know the adjustments and the kind of maps to make thus some amazing maps like Sanctuary and FS coming into play. The players are also used to the UI and the units abilities, save a few. So it's a combination of players developing new strategies for a relatively novel game and translating better as opposed to SC:BW to SC2: WoL. A great combination. the kespa mapmakers are the exact same dudes who made the GSL sc2 maps man
Well, in Proleague there is more room for experimentation.
GSL does have too (Icarus is probably one of the most unusual maps) but Proleague allows map makers to be a bit more creative with the maps.
On April 07 2013 12:56 purakushi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:50 LighT. wrote:
To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements.
I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful.
Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well. Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units.
Yeah, that's why any match up involving Protoss in WoL is bad.
It's "turtle till 200/200", then attack, then game over. It wasn't a "tug of war" or back and forth game like BW.
PvT in BW was at least tug of war and back and forth, even if it's "deathballs".
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On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even...
Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game?
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On April 07 2013 12:56 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"
But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel. Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2? Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"? Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on. ZvZ was terrible unless you liked Ling/Muta wars..every single freakin game unless the players name was Zero. SC2 ZvZ is more dynamic. PvP was a lot more fun though than SC2 IMO. Those reavers made the game intense. TvT...relatively the same right now as SC2: HoTS to SC:BW TvZ....still pretty good TvP...SC:BW is better...but I dont know why...somethings off..but I seriously have to check out this Hero/Baby game. PvZ..Relatively even.
I like TvT in SC2 more for its variety and I like PvZ in BW more than SC2.
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On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game?
The one known as the Oracle.
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On April 07 2013 12:56 purakushi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:50 LighT. wrote:
To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements.
I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful.
Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well. Sure, BW has its deathballs, but you can not compare BW deathball versus deathball to the SC2 version of it. In SC2, these just end in 10-15 seconds, if that. Plus, in SC2, deathball is *the* optimal way to play. In BW, it is a lot more possible to utilize individual units or small groups of units. Overall, it's SC2's clumping behaviour that is the main subject of complaint regarding deathballs.
I dont but the "utilize individual units" because you see that all the time in SC2.
But yea...the clumping issue definitely.
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On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even...
It's okay, most people are too strung up on units compositions because they are used to max versus max, where that matters most. Instead, games are turning more and more into actually outplaying your opponent, utilizing each unit (even if it is technically crappy against the enemy's) to its fullest. The new units, changes to old units, metagame, better players, and a host of other other reasons "allow" for this sort of play with the old units even though they were available in WoL.
Just remember: The players should orchestrate the gameplay, not the units.
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Fenrax
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On April 07 2013 12:55 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:54 Fenrax wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embeddedThere you go.
I'm german T_T
Gema blocks pretty much everything in their war against Youtube here, even Proleague.
Is there a VLC stream or something?
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On April 07 2013 12:58 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? The one known as the Oracle.
How does oracle changes unit composition? Everyone builds one, and it's out of the army.
And oh yeah! We have an oracle. Such a huge change in unit composition right now!
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On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game?
You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely...
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That game was incredibly entertaining.
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He also used Void Rays in that game where in WOL he would have just straight lost because of the lack of charge. You could say its not a different unit but units with a change in mechanics is considered a new unit to me because it changes the value and use of said unit.
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On April 07 2013 12:59 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely...
But how is that "oh HOTS is 10x times better than WoL?"
TvP is basically the same, none of the new units and new factors come in to change the unit composition. This single game is awesome and that's it. It has nothing to do with HOTS, (in TvP)
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On April 07 2013 12:59 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:55 Kieofire wrote:On April 07 2013 12:54 Fenrax wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embeddedThere you go. I'm german T_T Gema blocks pretty much everything in their war against Youtube here, even Proleague. Is there a VLC stream or something?
pm sent
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Fenrax
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On April 07 2013 12:59 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely...
Speed Medivac, Oracle...
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On April 07 2013 12:59 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:55 Kieofire wrote:On April 07 2013 12:54 Fenrax wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.
It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.
The games have been amazing. I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype. just watch the korean stream it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't) Link? couldnt find in OP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embeddedThere you go. I'm german T_T Gema blocks pretty much everything in their war against Youtube here, even Proleague. Is there a VLC stream or something?
Why is it that only Germans don't run the unblockers for youtube and other sites?
Get Hola unblocker for your browser or other extension to stop that filth
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On April 07 2013 12:59 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:58 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? The one known as the Oracle. How does oracle changes unit composition? Everyone builds one, and it's out of the army. And oh yeah! We have an oracle. Such a huge change in unit composition right now!
Composition is irrelevant. Adding in new options in the form of new units changes the way the game must be played, because it opens new strategies and closes others. The matchup is in many ways more interesting now.
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On April 07 2013 12:59 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:58 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? The one known as the Oracle. How does oracle changes unit composition? Everyone builds one, and it's out of the army. And oh yeah! We have an oracle. Such a huge change in unit composition right now!
People are beginning to experiment with Phoenix in TvP a bit too, which only a few people (NonY comes to mind) did in WoL.
Furthermore, it's not all about new units. Tanks are being invested into more heavily in TvP because of not having to invest in siege.
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On April 07 2013 13:00 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:59 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely... But how is that "oh HOTS is 10x times better than WoL?" TvP is basically the same. This single game is awesome and that's it. It has nothing to do with HOTS, (in TvP)
You don't see how nexus canon,speed medivac,recall,oracle affect the gameplay? There was none of that in WoL.
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Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
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On April 07 2013 13:01 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:00 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:59 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely... But how is that "oh HOTS is 10x times better than WoL?" It said "unit composition". I don't mean the meta TvP is basically the same. This single game is awesome and that's it. It has nothing to do with HOTS, (in TvP) You don't see how nexus canon,speed medivac,recall,oracle affect the gameplay? There was none of that in WoL.
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On April 07 2013 12:58 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? The one known as the Oracle.
I just saw in this game:
Oracle
void Rays
MSC
tanks
Mines
All of them i wont see if it was wol.
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On April 07 2013 13:00 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:59 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:57 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 12:56 Wildmoon wrote:On April 07 2013 12:55 larse wrote:
How is 10x better than WoL?
It doesn't have anything new except the mothership core.
All unit compositions are exactly the same in TvP in WoL and HOTS.
Very uninspiring. what is this... I don't even... Give me an example of how the unit composition in TvP changed from WoL to HOTS, except mothershipcore and 2-4 widow mine in the early game? You don't need new unit composition to be amazing game. Few new units mix in change the way you play the game entirely... But how is that "oh HOTS is 10x times better than WoL?" TvP is basically the same, none of the new units and new factors come in to change the unit composition. This single game is awesome and that's it. It has nothing to do with HOTS, (in TvP)
On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
You may think, what will 1 new unit do for the game? Well, the mothership core, while simple it itself, expands the possibilities for Protoss. It is more about the possibilities that the units give than the units themselves. This roughly translates to the overall "better" games. Of course, the new units themselves are great, too.
That is one of the goals of HotS, but it is, by far, not the "whole" goal.
4 widow mines in the early game changes a lot... See above paragraph.
From SC1 to BW, there were only a few units added to each race. These few units *completely* changed the game (i.e. the possibilities).
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On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
I guess it's time to reintroduce the Warhound then.
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Shit that was sloppy yet funny
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I fucking love Proleague, so good. Feels like I'm watching a sports broadcast on TV, which you don't get with most other productions, quality games, a genuine 'team' vibe and reaction cams.
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Noooooo not stim I thought Bbyong would go mech
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It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.-
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On April 07 2013 13:02 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! I guess it's time to reintroduce the Warhound then.
They did it already.
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Am I the only guy who misses the Bill Costi song associated with Terminator?
Thought after Flash, he had the best player theme music :<
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On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.-
Cool name though.
Too bad he's on my anti. Or should I say, good thing he's on my anti.
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On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
So because Blizzard didn't achieve their goal of makings something viable when a unit exists that completely and utterly hard counters that very strategy without addressing that unit, HotS is no improvement over WoL? You're talking out of your ass.
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On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.-
i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha
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On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
It's funny that you say that but basically yes haha.
Btw that "haha" is not with you thats against you.
Theres no way to ignore users on TL so you don't see their posts right?..
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On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha
For me, Sting's that guy. How in the blazes does he ever win? He's supply blocked every 90 seconds!
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On April 07 2013 13:04 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:02 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! I guess it's time to reintroduce the Warhound then. They did it already.
And they should do it again!
and again! and again!
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Yeah whatever. You guys are super happy with what TvP looks like right now. I get it. But there are no mech, so I stand where I was standing.
Thank you all.
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i hope no terran tries that 15minute byun scv pull like bomber did, fairly lame way to win. unless you're byun himself, of course
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I had Terminator on my anti team once
Big mistake
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On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha
I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games
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On April 07 2013 13:07 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games
When was this Byun/Apoc business?
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Did Bbyong forget an armory?
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I dont have much leverage but I think a big problem in TvP will be that Terran has little to no answer vs a fully transitioned Sky Toss. Watching Stork carriers ripping through all those vikings and widow mines, made me one sad panda :<
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On April 07 2013 13:06 larse wrote:
Yeah whatever. You guys are super happy with what TvP looks like right now. I get it. But there are no mech, so I stand where I was standing.
Thank you all.
well you know, you never see skyterran either. not every comp has to be viable
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On April 07 2013 13:06 opterown wrote:
i hope no terran tries that 15minute byun scv pull like bomber did, fairly lame way to win. unless you're byun himself, of course
fucking hell
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This scv pull every game by terran is so lame...
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i loved that hero game, so sick ;;
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On April 07 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did Bbyong forget an armory?
Nope!
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On April 07 2013 13:06 opterown wrote:
i hope no terran tries that 15minute byun scv pull like bomber did, fairly lame way to win. unless you're byun himself, of course
how dare you give bb this idea
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On April 07 2013 13:08 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:07 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games When was this Byun/Apoc business?
Byun's stream.
The matchmaker kept pairing him up and none of the games outside of 1, from memory was close.
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what the hell zealots hold position
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On April 07 2013 13:09 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:06 larse wrote:
Yeah whatever. You guys are super happy with what TvP looks like right now. I get it. But there are no mech, so I stand where I was standing.
Thank you all. well you know, you never see skyterran either. not every comp has to be viable
You have to remember HotS still has not had its first official patch. There is still hope. And no, I am not complaining about balance.
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Oh this game is so awesome. The photon overcharge at the last makes this game 10 times better than WOL!
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Wow. SCVs and emp. Nice combination >_<
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Poll: Recommend Game 2?No (10) 48% If you have time (7) 33% OK'ish (4) 19% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 2? (Vote): OK'ish
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On April 07 2013 13:10 larse wrote:
Oh this game is so awesome. The photon overcharge at the last makes this game 10 times better than WOL!
oh give it a break
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Bbyong raining down the points!
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Terminator looks pissed lol but he nearly held
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Ugh, this map is pretty tailor made to hold that push. Panicking and pushing your Sentries too far to reapply FF =/
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On April 07 2013 13:09 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:08 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:07 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games When was this Byun/Apoc business? Byun's stream. The matchmaker kept pairing him up and none of the games outside of 1, from memory was close.
How does this make Apoc bad though? I imagine Code S and high Code A players would make a lot of B teamers look silly.
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bbyong mega points oh yea
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Terminator barley worse than Bbyong lol.
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On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP!
Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages.
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Ahh yiss. Gimme those points!
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There we go Bbyong got me the points that I need for FPL.
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On April 07 2013 13:11 Ammanas wrote:
Yes Bbyong, thank you!
Wow bbyong.
You could say...
He's pretty sick.
*puts on glasses*
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That was a serious case of deja vu. Bbyong did an exact carbon copy of Bombers play against Creator, from his reaper opening that was identical timings, to his expansion timing, and his SCV pull. An exact carbon copy, and he won with it.
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On April 07 2013 13:11 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:09 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:08 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:07 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games When was this Byun/Apoc business? Byun's stream. The matchmaker kept pairing him up and none of the games outside of 1, from memory was close. How does this make Apoc bad though? I imagine Code S and high Code A players would make a lot of B teamers look silly.
Because none of the games were close...and byun was completely fooling around and chatting with the viewers for half the game and he was still getting wrecked. its a matter of perspective I guess. :/
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Byun is a monster in Apoc's defence
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On April 07 2013 13:10 larse wrote:
Oh this game is so awesome. The photon overcharge at the last makes this game 10 times better than WOL!
You are just being boring 
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By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible.
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On April 07 2013 13:14 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:11 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:09 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:08 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:07 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:04 Ammanas wrote:
It is still beyond me how Terminator can win anything ever. He is like the worst player I have ever seen trying to seriously play SC2 -.- i dno, i can name some pretty bad players haha I love the guy as a person and caster and all but the worst ex-progamer/progamer Ive ever seen play is probably InControl..although truthfully..all the games ive seen with him is against Koreans.. or Apocalypse.but maybe thats because he was smashed by Byun for 8 straight games When was this Byun/Apoc business? Byun's stream. The matchmaker kept pairing him up and none of the games outside of 1, from memory was close. How does this make Apoc bad though? I imagine Code S and high Code A players would make a lot of B teamers look silly. Because none of the games were close...and byun was completely fooling around and chatting with the viewers for half the game and he was still getting wrecked. its a matter of perspective I guess. :/
Oh, when that's the definition of not close, I see your point :D
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On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible.
I'm wondering about this, why do they use it in LoL and Dota2.
But imo it looks equally bad in those games.
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On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible.
Yea..they seriously need to change that.
You know what would be really cool?
Re-designed units with team's logo on it.
No idea how that would work for zerg though.
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On April 07 2013 13:16 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. I'm wondering about this, why do they use it in LoL and Dota2. Looks equally bad in those games.
I still can't get used to these health bars =(.
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On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible.
Yeah, it's pretty annoying. I'm watching SPL on a lower quality since my bandwidth here sucks, and I just end up ignoring the health bars most of the time since I can't even read them. It's fortunate that the wireframes provide some info.
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On April 07 2013 13:10 larse wrote:
Oh this game is so awesome. The photon overcharge at the last makes this game 10 times better than WOL!
You need to stop this. I agree with you that the lack of mech in tvp is quite disappointing and I have hopes it will be used more by pros in the future as it is learned better but tvp is different than before. Speedvacs make drops much deadlier and allows doom drops which is totally new, as well as combining them with mines. The nexus cannon is used all the time to fight off drops and pushes. Voids are used(with their new ability), oracles are used and adds a ton to the match up for harass, tracking drops and army movement, and detection. Etc. It is different and plays out a bit less boringly than before over all.
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So the team logos are decals now right? Or are those just in their maps? It's really a nice touch. Makes eSports feel more professional.
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On April 07 2013 13:16 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. I'm wondering about this, why do they use it in LoL and Dota2. But imo it looks equally bad in those games. I'm not exactly sure why it's not that bad there - perhaps you mostly care about heroes, and they aren't that many (not 200 units), and each has a very large bar. In RTS you can't use such large detailed bars.
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On April 07 2013 13:17 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. Yea..they seriously need to change that. You know what would be really cool? Re-designed units with team's logo on it. No idea how that would work for zerg though.
Some Terran units already get small decals on them, notably Marines, Marauders, and maybe Vikings and Thors.
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Speed/Effort I feel is going to be the match of the night.
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On April 07 2013 13:19 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:17 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. Yea..they seriously need to change that. You know what would be really cool? Re-designed units with team's logo on it. No idea how that would work for zerg though. Some Terran units already get small decals on them, notably Marines, Marauders, and maybe Vikings and Thors.
Really? Like team decals!?
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On April 07 2013 13:19 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:17 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. Yea..they seriously need to change that. You know what would be really cool? Re-designed units with team's logo on it. No idea how that would work for zerg though. Some Terran units already get small decals on them, notably Marines, Marauders, and maybe Vikings and Thors.
What really :o
Haven't noticed that.
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On April 07 2013 13:12 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages.
Because if you look at every other matchups except TvP, no tech path is so unforgivingly denied.
In TvP, Terran is stuck in MMMVG tech path and all other tech patch is not good even the game goes into 1 hour long. There is no unit-composition transition (you can see transitions in all other matchups) at all in TvP and so the unit-composition diversity in TvP is basically non-existent. And making mech viable is to open all these pathes.
This is not the case in all other matchups.
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they basically took away the most visible spectrum ofinformation, color. you can't tell how units are hurt immediately, gotta focus on the tiny bars. this is ridiculous
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At least in Dota 2, you can change the amount of health each portion of the bar represents. With the color in the bar here, it's really difficult to see. Why don't they just use the regular Green?
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On April 07 2013 13:20 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:12 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages. Because if you look at every other matchups except TvP, no tech path is so unforgivingly denied. In TvP, Terran is stuck in MMMVG tech path and all other tech patch is not good even the game goes into 1 hour long. There is no unit-composition transition (as you can see in all other matchups) at all in TvP and so the unit-composition diversity in TvP is basically non-existent. And making mech viable is to open all these pathes. This is not the case in all other matchups.
Still doesn't make it bad, PvT pissed all over ZvT and PvZ at the end of WoL despite its rather stable compositions on both sides.
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On April 07 2013 13:20 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:19 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 07 2013 13:17 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:15 figq wrote:
By the way, I hope the LoL/Dota2 health bar style in SC2 would die. It works for 5v5 hero game, in RTS it's horrible. Yea..they seriously need to change that. You know what would be really cool? Re-designed units with team's logo on it. No idea how that would work for zerg though. Some Terran units already get small decals on them, notably Marines, Marauders, and maybe Vikings and Thors. Really? Like team decals!?
I'm not sure if these special KeSPA team decals that Proleague uses also carry over to units. They at least carry over to buildings since I see them on Starports and stuff.
But a lot of Terran units do support the unlockable decals that you get as rewards for achievements and leveling. They're just really tiny to see, and afaik they don't appear on lower graphics settings.
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On April 07 2013 13:22 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:20 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 13:12 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages. Because if you look at every other matchups except TvP, no tech path is so unforgivingly denied. In TvP, Terran is stuck in MMMVG tech path and all other tech patch is not good even the game goes into 1 hour long. There is no unit-composition transition (as you can see in all other matchups) at all in TvP and so the unit-composition diversity in TvP is basically non-existent. And making mech viable is to open all these pathes. This is not the case in all other matchups. Still doesn't make it bad, PvT pissed all over ZvT and PvZ at the end of WoL despite its rather stable compositions on both sides.
Yes, but stable composition is different from "no unit-composition transition". They are stable, but the unit composition is changing from Tier 1 to 3. But that's not the case in TvP
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am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace?
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On April 07 2013 13:25 PVJ wrote:
How was the TvP on FS?
It was an epic game, I rate it at 10/10.
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On April 07 2013 13:25 opterown wrote:
am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace?
Yes because I want bong to score!
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On April 07 2013 13:25 opterown wrote:
am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace?
yes because you told me i should root for teams to do well instead of fantasy when i wanted byun to lose so Maru could come out D:
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On April 07 2013 13:25 PVJ wrote:
How was the TvP on FS?
Epic back and forth on low supply with constant action and (mostly) wise decisions.
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On April 07 2013 13:25 opterown wrote:
am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace?
No shame, just points.
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Exciting match. Go Eff0rt!
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On April 07 2013 13:28 Sugarfluff wrote:
Exciting match. Go Eff0rt!
have to be honest..its been 1 minute into this match and its been far from exciting >_>
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On April 07 2013 13:26 Kieofire wrote:It was an epic game, I rate it at 10/10.
On April 07 2013 13:27 Giriath wrote:Epic back and forth on low supply with constant action and (mostly) wise decisions.
Cool, thanks guys, I'll definitely check it out then later.
These sick decals still give me the chills.
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Well at least they explained the issues. Glad they at least did that.
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On April 07 2013 13:28 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:25 opterown wrote:
am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace? No shame, just points.
is this the PL? is this just fantasy? ( )
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On April 07 2013 13:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:25 opterown wrote:
am i a bad person if i root for cure, argo and savage to take their games, so that hero or hydra wins in ace? yes because you told me i should root for teams to do well instead of fantasy when i wanted byun to lose so Maru could come out D:
nah that was prime specifically
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On April 07 2013 13:30 Hrrrrm wrote:
Well at least they explained the issues. Glad they at least did that.
Sorry I'm not on listening on the English stream what did they say?
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On April 07 2013 13:24 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:20 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 13:12 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages. Because if you look at every other matchups except TvP, no tech path is so unforgivingly denied. In TvP, Terran is stuck in MMMVG tech path and all other tech patch is not good even the game goes into 1 hour long. There is no unit-composition transition (as you can see in all other matchups) at all in TvP and so the unit-composition diversity in TvP is basically non-existent. And making mech viable is to open all these pathes. This is not the case in all other matchups. Still doesn't make it bad, PvT pissed all over ZvT and PvZ at the end of WoL despite its rather stable compositions on both sides. I think that is an overexageration. Simply looking at the top games list done by TL TvZ had the most matches and most of them were at the end of the year. Even in the last GSL there were tons of great TvZ games (including the best WOL series ever played).
TvP gave for more enjoyable games for me at a Code S level for the last few months, it's generally always been very compositionally rigorous, but you always felt for the most part that it was a fair one. TvZ was pretty horrible, but yeah Gumiho/Losira was absolutely ridiculous, just done my third rewatch there!
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On April 07 2013 13:31 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:30 Hrrrrm wrote:
Well at least they explained the issues. Glad they at least did that. Sorry I'm not on listening on the English stream what did they say?
They just renovated during the time off, so things weren't perfect. PM either of them with things to fix on the English stream etc.
Should someone just link them the reddit thread with all of the complaints?
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On April 07 2013 13:24 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:20 larse wrote:On April 07 2013 13:12 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 07 2013 13:02 larse wrote:
Their whole goal of HOTS beta is "to make mech viable in TvP"
And yeah! Mech TvP is viable now in professional plays because we have 4 widow mines in the early game in TvP! Why is everyone obsessed with mech? it's viable in both TvT and TvZ, and TvP has actually been a decent, stable matchup for ages. Because if you look at every other matchups except TvP, no tech path is so unforgivingly denied. In TvP, Terran is stuck in MMMVG tech path and all other tech patch is not good even the game goes into 1 hour long. There is no unit-composition transition (as you can see in all other matchups) at all in TvP and so the unit-composition diversity in TvP is basically non-existent. And making mech viable is to open all these pathes. This is not the case in all other matchups. Still doesn't make it bad, PvT pissed all over ZvT and PvZ at the end of WoL despite its rather stable compositions on both sides. Yes, but stable composition is different from "no unit-composition transition". They are stable, but the unit composition is changing from Tier 1 to 3. But that's not the case in TvP
To be fair, there were two TvPs where the Terran did end up going for a significant composition transition. Both were MVP vs Squirtle games. One was an epic GSTL finals game on Terminus RE where MVP transitioned from bio into mech and lost.. The other was the GSL finals game where MVP transitioned into Ghost-BC and lost to an Archon toilet.
We'll see what happens in the future with what players do and with how Blizzard balances. I'm hoping that the tank gets buffed considering how it's in a weird position in TvZ where a lot of players are opting to build mines instead.
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I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<..
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The team decals are on everything - all kinds of buildings and units. You can see the 8th logo on the reapers.
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Really diggin this play from Cure
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I expect good things from this match.
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On April 07 2013 13:31 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:30 Hrrrrm wrote:
Well at least they explained the issues. Glad they at least did that. Sorry I'm not on listening on the English stream what did they say?
It was basically that they were planning on having an international version of everything for the english stream but some things happened where it was pushed back. Things should be fixed in a week or so. If not to bring it up again at that time.
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On April 07 2013 13:34 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:31 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 13:30 Hrrrrm wrote:
Well at least they explained the issues. Glad they at least did that. Sorry I'm not on listening on the English stream what did they say? They just renovated during the time off, so things weren't perfect. PM either of them with things to fix on the English stream etc. Should someone just link them the reddit thread with all of the complaints?
ah ok.
Yeah they should I got a lot of upvotes on my comment there with a list on problems
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On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<..
Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D
P.S. It's the teams dawg
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On April 07 2013 13:34 figq wrote:
The team decals are on everything - all kinds of buildings and units. You can see the 8th logo on the reapers.
Youre right..I can see it on the eng bays and bunkers..
But they're incredibly hard to see.
on things like factories/barracks they could be better :/
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On April 07 2013 13:34 figq wrote:
The team decals are on everything - all kinds of buildings and units. You can see the 8th logo on the reapers.
Finally started to notice it, really nice touch.
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On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg
I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today.
TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<..
HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss.
Effort has an OSL too :<..
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Effort nothing like in WoL, a bit odd too see him like this.
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Why is the Terran always ahead in supply vs Zerg in Hots?
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On April 07 2013 13:37 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today. TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<.. HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss. Effort has an OSL too :<..
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The style that suits Effort's the best is basically Life's zerg style.
I've always seen Life as a more advanced carbon copy of Effort's hyper-aggressive ling style from SC:BW
They should try to learn from each other :<
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Why are they using those colours for the health bars? It's really really hard to see.
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Hell yeah cure! My FPL needs a T8 victory!
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On April 07 2013 13:37 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today. TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<.. HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss. Effort has an OSL too :<..
I was talking about the LR thread. I have no idea about the actual crowd O_O
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Damn i knew i should have put Cure on my fantasy team.
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On April 07 2013 13:39 LighT. wrote:
The style that suits Effort's the best is basically Life's zerg style.
I've always seen Life as a more advanced carbon copy of Effort's hyper-aggressive ling style from SC:BW
They should try to learn from each other :<
CJ to buy life to get 3 zerg aces!
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On April 07 2013 13:35 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:34 figq wrote:
The team decals are on everything - all kinds of buildings and units. You can see the 8th logo on the reapers. Youre right..I can see it on the eng bays and bunkers.. But they're incredibly hard to see. on things like factories/barracks they could be better :/ would help if OGN fixed the screen size, Twitch made the 720+ lag-free, and OGN fixed the interlacing which blurs the stream so much, and also the contrast/brightness settings which are far from optimal
that said, I still enjoy the stream greatly, just there are still quite some things to improve
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it feels like this caster is watching a different game... his calls are just so far off base.
like, he said something about how the 6-8 hellions wouldn't mess with the 4 queens.. then they pick 2 queens off with no losses.
also, seemed like effort was on the back foot the entire game.
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On April 07 2013 13:40 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:39 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 13:37 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today. TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<.. HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss. Effort has an OSL too :<.. Bisu Dagger biggest/weirdest fangirl on this site for sure.
eh i dno, neo exists
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Six for six on my main team for FPL! :D now Jaedong just needs to lose!
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Okay time for Hydra to win.
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On April 07 2013 13:29 LighT. wrote:have to be honest..its been 1 minute into this match and its been far from exciting >_>
'Twas not what I expected
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These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me.
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On April 07 2013 13:40 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:39 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 13:37 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today. TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<.. HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss. Effort has an OSL too :<.. Bisu Dagger biggest/weirdest fangirl on this site for sure.
I might be able to think of a few other ones that might be weirder/bigger, although I'm pretty sure they're also T1/Bisu fanboys/girls as well.
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On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me.
Watch the KR stream bro.
KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable
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On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable
the crazy knowledgeable part hardly helps if you don't speak korean though haha :p
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On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable
Could you provide a link to the korean stream ? Thank you ;¤
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On April 07 2013 13:43 Lykkehjul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable Could you provide a link to the korean stream ? Thank you ;¤
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrIbOC6ZXE&feature=player_embedded
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On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me.
we are blessed with the korean ones, they add so much feelings
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On April 07 2013 13:41 Wingblade wrote:
Six for six on my main team for FPL! :D now Jaedong just needs to lose!
Don't forget theres 3 more matches this week apart from the WJS v EG-TL.
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On April 07 2013 13:42 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:40 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 07 2013 13:39 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 13:37 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:35 AgentW wrote:On April 07 2013 13:34 LighT. wrote:
I wonder where's the crowd from yesterday?
We had like 110 pages for KT/SKT
not even 20 pages thus far :<.. Think about what you just wrote, and you'll find your answer. :D P.S. It's the teams dawg I dont know..theres some handsome players playing today. TY usually has a hoard of fangirls..although the numbers died down with progressive age :<.. HerO is one handsome man and hydra looks like a boss. Effort has an OSL too :<.. Bisu Dagger biggest/weirdest fangirl on this site for sure. I might be able to think of a few other ones that might be weirder/bigger, although I'm pretty sure they're also T1/Bisu fanboys/girls as well.
I feel you.
Always claiming how SKT is best KT.
Bunch of weirdos, I tell you what...yep.
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On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable
The knowledge certainly doesn't transpire for me since I don't know a lick of Korean, but the passion certainly does.
Too bad my bandwidth here is too shitty to support any of the Korean streams.
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On April 07 2013 13:42 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable the crazy knowledgeable part hardly helps if you don't speak korean though haha :p you don't get what they are saying - they must be smart
you get what they are saying - they must be stupid as hell, right
it's an urban law of physics or something
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I guess we can add Effort to the list of Zergs who look lost in ZvT. There was no point in that game where he looked like he was a threat.
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Anybody know the song that plays in the intro?
WAYO WAYO NANANANAAAAA NANANAAAAAA etc etc
>_>
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On April 07 2013 13:44 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:42 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 13:42 LighT. wrote:On April 07 2013 13:41 Lykkehjul wrote:
These casters... Wow. I rarely feel the need to mute streams, but this is one of those moments. Ruining most proleague games for me. Watch the KR stream bro. KR casters are awesome and crazy knowledgable the crazy knowledgeable part hardly helps if you don't speak korean though haha :p you don't get what they are saying - they must be smart you get what they are saying - they must be stupid as hell, right it's an urban law of physics or something
time for me to cast in vietnamese then
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Q: What score would you give your reaper micro today?
Cure: My reapers don't do this much damage in practice even if I micro them, but somehow they worked well in a real game. About 90 points out of a 100?
Q: How are you so popular with female fans? You must tell us.
A: I don't know either...
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Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net
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Cheers for the on-the-fly translation Wax
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Whiplash, some constructive criticism if you see this. I don't know when you started doing this, it wasn't last round of proleague or prior, but please drop the feigned Husky-esque enthusiasm.
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On April 07 2013 13:46 Waxangel wrote:
Q: How are you so popular with female fans? You must tell us.
A: I don't know either...
The correct answer: The Girls have a Need For Speed
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On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net
I guess because we never hear from them.
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On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net
if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments
it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__?
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Lets see if this will end up as a muta war or something more like WoL ZvZ.
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On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net
There's something of a weird attitude towards our Korean brethren, it's rather patronising, as if Koreans will show the same kind of divergent opinions as Western posters will have. Also on that front the classic 'Koreans have no personality' fallacy
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On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__?
I was really disappointed when I saw that the kr gom forums hadn't updated foreigner forum reactions in a long time Recognized some TL IDs on there
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On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__?
Meh, good point :/
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wtf the Korean youtube stream switched over to MBC
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On April 07 2013 13:43 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:41 Wingblade wrote:
Six for six on my main team for FPL! :D now Jaedong just needs to lose! Don't forget theres 3 more matches this week apart from the WJS v EG-TL.
Yea but everyone on my main has played and won! Hopefully they win more.
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On April 07 2013 13:49 Tobblish wrote:
wtf the Korean youtube stream switched over to MBC
And now ESPN, I am so lost...
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On April 07 2013 13:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__? I was really disappointed when I saw that the kr gom forums hadn't updated foreigner forum reactions in a long time Recognized some TL IDs on there
oh, linky?
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On April 07 2013 13:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__? I was really disappointed when I saw that the kr gom forums hadn't updated foreigner forum reactions in a long time Recognized some TL IDs on there
they're presently shedding manly tears over the honor of foreign fans telling GomTV to keep their money even though refunds
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On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__?
for proof of that go watch infinity challenge where Yoo jae suk goes and see's MC hammer and act's rediculous lol... Where as i think most people here wouldn't give a crap about meeting him.
At the same time. We already see eachother's reactions and we like that. We go into these threads and see it ourselves
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Ok f it I won't watch the game then, Korean ESPN yeeeaaaah!
edit: wtf are they doing? 0o
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On April 07 2013 13:51 Tobblish wrote:
Ok f it I won't watch the game then, Korean ESPN yeeeaaaah!
edit: wtf are they doing? 0o
No idea, but I pm'd you a korean link just in case. lol
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On April 07 2013 13:50 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 07 2013 13:48 Waxangel wrote:On April 07 2013 13:46 LighT. wrote:
Off topic but one thing i never understood is why people always want Korean netizen's reactions out of everything.
reading some of those posts makes my head hurts.
Some of the stupidest, offensive posts youll ever see on the net if you're korean, you'll know that Korean also netizens want the validation of foreigners any time any famous Korean goes abroad to do anything, and circlejerk over any positive comments it's not just a Korean-foreigner thing, it's just a human thing -__? I was really disappointed when I saw that the kr gom forums hadn't updated foreigner forum reactions in a long time Recognized some TL IDs on there oh, linky?
http://kr.gomtv.net/gsl/community/index.gom?submod=1010&m=4&mbid=10002&cateid=oversea
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Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff.
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On April 07 2013 13:53 LighT. wrote:
Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff.
well i know that in australia if you use coupons to buy pizzas, they put less stuff on them lol
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On April 07 2013 13:53 LighT. wrote:
Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff.
I'm sure lots of people did ask for refunds, well probably. I don't think being cheap is limited to one part of the world.
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On April 07 2013 13:53 LighT. wrote:
Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff.
Need more evidence please. I eat in Korea town 4 times a week and they always fill my belly. I feel guilty paying so little.
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What happened between Stephano and herO?
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On April 07 2013 13:55 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:53 LighT. wrote:
Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff. I'm sure lots of people did ask for refunds, well probably. I don't think being cheap is limited to one part of the world.
yea..but personally, I feel koreans take it to a new level for cheapness, but still not as bad as some other ethnicities >_>...
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On April 07 2013 13:56 ffadicted wrote:
What happened between Stephano and herO?
Stephano said gl hf or something. he got a warning
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Code S Premier division zerg too strong
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Well that was really fast and not a muta war. haha
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On April 07 2013 13:56 ffadicted wrote:
What happened between Stephano and herO?
Stephano typed "gl hf" in his SPL debut against herO.
He would have been disqualified, but herO was a hero and typed "glgl" or something like that right before the pause, so the referees only gave Stephano a warning rather than disqualify both players.
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No game sound is not acceptable.
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Wow. I turned around for five seconds to get my phone and it's over.
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aw fuck i have hydra on my main team. 7 points fuck
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Ouch, hurts to see Hydra like that.
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God damn it Hydra..God damn it.
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Fastest SC2 PL match to date?
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Hydra... I had to make a Zerg pick to create my FTL team and I choosed you.
I am disappoint!
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What happened? I was typing a post and missed the game.
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Hydra
Y U DOING THIS TO MY FPL?!
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On April 07 2013 13:55 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:53 LighT. wrote:
Koreans would likely ask for their refunds. with how the culture is constructed people are crazy cheap about money.
I remember watching a documentary on MBC about how some restaurants offer less portions when you pay them with coupons and calling them out for it and interviewing them. crazy stuff. Need more evidence please. I eat in Korea town 4 times a week and they always fill my belly. I feel guilty paying so little.
What do you mean evidence :s?
From what I remember...
They ordered take-out from a bunch of fried chicken/chinese restaurants in Korea, told them specifically they were going to use coupons. But a week prior they ordered from the same restaurant and measured the quantity.
And they use coupons twice.
Using comparative measurement, they found out the restaurants give significantly less portions when using coupons.
interviewed them, they all denied it of course.
Then they found out one of the restaurants give more bigger portions when using coupons, which is given for being a loyal customer. They stated it's because they want to reward for giving them business for so long. ANd they were praising them.
Didnt watch the rest because I just found it so ridiculously asinine.
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On April 07 2013 13:58 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:56 ffadicted wrote:
What happened between Stephano and herO? Stephano typed "gl hf" in his SPL debut against herO. He would have been disqualified, but herO was a hero and typed "glgl" or something like that right before the pause, so the referees only gave Stephano a warning rather than disqualify both players.
Is there any actual proof that that being the reason (as opposed to Stephano getting slack for being a foreigner)?
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On April 07 2013 13:59 eviltomahawk wrote:
What happened? I was typing a post and missed the game.
10 pool, banelings, drones no more. Poor control.
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On April 07 2013 14:01 braller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:58 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 07 2013 13:56 ffadicted wrote:
What happened between Stephano and herO? Stephano typed "gl hf" in his SPL debut against herO. He would have been disqualified, but herO was a hero and typed "glgl" or something like that right before the pause, so the referees only gave Stephano a warning rather than disqualify both players. Is there any actual proof that that being the reason (as opposed to Stephano getting slack for being a foreigner)?
there's no proof
they got so much shit the first time it happened back in 2008 or so that they've been lenient about it ever since
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And 15 Minutes downtime again... pff.
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On April 07 2013 14:02 LighT. wrote:
I swear, if Alive and JD do not win, I am going to be in a foul mood tomorrow.
JD is going to be facing a protoss though in his match later, so it all hangs in the balance if he has figured the matchup out yet in HotS.
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Northern Ireland25386 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:03 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:01 braller wrote:On April 07 2013 13:58 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 07 2013 13:56 ffadicted wrote:
What happened between Stephano and herO? Stephano typed "gl hf" in his SPL debut against herO. He would have been disqualified, but herO was a hero and typed "glgl" or something like that right before the pause, so the referees only gave Stephano a warning rather than disqualify both players. Is there any actual proof that that being the reason (as opposed to Stephano getting slack for being a foreigner)? there's no proof they got so much shit the first time it happened back in 2008 or so that they've been lenient about it ever since
Who did it first happen to incidentally?
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I feel Korean commercials are terrible :/....
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On April 07 2013 13:58 Tobblish wrote:
Hydra... I had to make a Zerg pick to create my FTL team and I choosed you.
I am disappoint!
omg me too. I wanted rain instead of him but, I didn't know where else to put a zerg.
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On April 07 2013 14:04 LighT. wrote:
I feel Korean commercials are terrible :/....
Would you rather listen to whipmaniac talking during downtime instead ?
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On April 07 2013 14:05 Lykkehjul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:04 LighT. wrote:
I feel Korean commercials are terrible :/.... Would you rather listen to whipmaniac talking during downtime instead ?
No but i want to see the Zero/Soulkey SPL interview. Funniest promo from SPL I've seen to date.
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On April 07 2013 14:05 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:58 Tobblish wrote:
Hydra... I had to make a Zerg pick to create my FTL team and I choosed you.
I am disappoint! omg me too. I wanted rain instead of him but, I didn't know where else to put a zerg.
How many of us does that make I wanted sOs myself.
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On April 07 2013 14:05 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 13:58 Tobblish wrote:
Hydra... I had to make a Zerg pick to create my FTL team and I choosed you.
I am disappoint! omg me too. I wanted rain instead of him but, I didn't know where else to put a zerg.
I was too cheap to pick a 1point Zerg because I noticed Aria was up against JD.
Blaming myself is madness, I am CURSED! T_T
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Is dat some Jaehoon I see coming up?
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where is the "mind mind mind x100" commercial? or it was in gomtv?
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United States97276 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:06 Topin wrote:
where is the "mind mind mind x100" commercial? or it was in gomtv?
mind mind mind is proleague
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On April 07 2013 14:06 Stanlot wrote:
Is dat some Jaehoon I see coming up?
I cant recall .
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United States97276 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:07 LighT. wrote:I cant recall .
oh god this is it. this is the chance. he has recall at his disposal
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I really dont think youve seen some of those commercials on the Korean Chess Channel. :/
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On April 07 2013 14:09 LighT. wrote:-.-... I really dont think youve seen some of those commercials on the Korean Chess Channel. :/
DUDE!
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On April 07 2013 14:09 LighT. wrote:-.-... I really dont think youve seen some of those commercials on the Korean Chess Channel. :/
Probably because I don't watch Korean television. Heck, I hardly watch any television at all.
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There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ.
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On April 07 2013 14:03 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:02 LighT. wrote:
I swear, if Alive and JD do not win, I am going to be in a foul mood tomorrow. JD is going to be facing a protoss though in his match later, so it all hangs in the balance if he has figured the matchup out yet in HotS.
so it all hangs in the balance if he goes for mutas or not.
FTFY
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Feels so good to have PL back
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On April 07 2013 14:13 slowbacontron wrote:
There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ.
Lots of korean-americans who want to name themselves
Carlos-Juan.
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On April 07 2013 14:13 slowbacontron wrote:
There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ.
fuck now I want to play san andreas
even though san andreas' cj is not exactly korean-american
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On April 07 2013 14:13 slowbacontron wrote:
There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ.
I once bought some CJ-brand red chili paste at the Asian supermarket. I felt pretty proud supporting CJ Entus that way. Maybe I should have emailed some sponsors.
It was tasty too.
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On April 07 2013 14:15 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:13 slowbacontron wrote:
There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ. I once bought some CJ-brand red chili paste at the Asian supermarket. I felt pretty proud supporting CJ Entus that way. Maybe I should have emailed some sponsors. It was tasty too.
You do some weird things to support your team lol
If only hite had SC2 team Id support them all the time :<..
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how he knew!!! what was the trigger for the 2 aditional bunkers?
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Yeah good thing I didn't anti team jaehoon again
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I'm ARGOO~ I MAKE IMMORTALS AND BUST EVERY PvT. AND WIN
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The power of an enfilade attack
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Argo is sweating up a storm :o
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He knew...he knew but he still lost. Sounds like me (and many others?) on the ladder. I wanted Skykigh to win this one, but I guess if T8 wins then at least I get FPL points from Terminator.
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Oh God TvP is such a great matchup in HOTS.
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Um. STim wasn't done until like the end of the last bunker going down.
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Jaehoon dispatched all those bunkers really well, some good play from him.
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Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields?
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Wow that looked almost too strong from Jaehoon due to the time warps blanketing the whole army. Skyhigh knew it was coming and still got battered.
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How is that all-in so good? Is it because of Mothership Core?
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"Third row in a win"
Keep it classy Whiplash. Keep it classy.
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Was that the third row, in a win?
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On April 07 2013 14:18 Dodgin wrote:
Yeah good thing I didn't anti team jaehoon again
Hahaha I know, right? Him and SoO.....
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I give Savage the advantage vs Bong so team 8 may just win 4-2...
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United States97276 Posts
Please win Bong so Bbyong can ace it up
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aw yeah put my fantasy points against SkyHigh and it payed off
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You can't make too many bunkers!
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Bong better win and Hydra better get sent for ace and win.
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Balanced or not but warp gates make for extremely boring games.
No entertainment at all watching these allins.
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God hots immortal bust is way too stronk....
Mass timewarp AND FF's
GG >.<
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:20 DifuntO wrote:
How is that all-in so good? Is it because of Mothership Core?
It was always good depending on the shape of the natural and scouting info. of the T. Parting used fairly often.
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Poll: Recommend Game 5?Me like allin (12) 55% ArNo (9) 41% If you have time (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 5? (Vote): Me like allin
(Vote): ArNo
(Vote): If you have time
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Please Bong don't disappoint me!
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On April 07 2013 14:17 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:15 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 07 2013 14:13 slowbacontron wrote:
There's a ton of Korean-Americans who go by CJ. I once bought some CJ-brand red chili paste at the Asian supermarket. I felt pretty proud supporting CJ Entus that way. Maybe I should have emailed some sponsors. It was tasty too. You do some weird things to support your team lol If only hite had SC2 team Id support them all the time :<..
Haha, Woongjin got me into 하늘보리
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On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields?
was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp.
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United States7483 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp.
They weren't out yet.
Skyhigh might have held if he'd actually used stim, it was done for the attack.
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Jaehoon won, good for my FPL. Hope CJ wins in the end though.
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On April 07 2013 14:20 DifuntO wrote:
How is that all-in so good? Is it because of Mothership Core?
The MSC helped a bit, but I think he would have won anyway since only 1 bunker could fire at the units. Skyhigh's defense was ready for a frontal assault but he could not handle getting enfiladed like that (the extra bunkers came down too late).
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On April 07 2013 14:24 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp. They weren't out yet. Skyhigh might have held if he'd actually used stim, it was done for the attack.
Skyhigh didn't execute his build correctly at all.
He missed timing for the raxes and got supply blocked early on iirc.
He didn't repair the first bunker with the SCVs either.
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On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp.
wait, it doesn't affect air does it? Anyways there were no vacs
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On April 07 2013 14:25 rj rl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp. wait, it doesn't affect air does it? Anyways there were no vacs
It doesn't affect air.
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Wow, Argo executed that very, very well, but I just don't understand how that push seemed so strong, like the bunkers didn't even slow it down at all.
Was really hoping SkyHigh could pull that off, especially with how safe he was trying to play.
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On April 07 2013 14:26 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:25 rj rl wrote:On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp. wait, it doesn't affect air does it? Anyways there were no vacs It doesn't affect air.
Oh wow i had no idea lol.
kinda like how i played 100 games before realizing reaper didnt require tech lab T.T. good to know
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On April 07 2013 14:28 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:26 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 14:25 rj rl wrote:On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp. wait, it doesn't affect air does it? Anyways there were no vacs It doesn't affect air. Oh wow i had no idea lol. kinda like how i played 100 games before realizing reaper didnt require tech lab T.T. good to know
hahahaha i almost fell of my chair
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Probably I'm the only one rooting for Savage.
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On April 07 2013 14:28 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:26 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 14:25 rj rl wrote:On April 07 2013 14:22 Highwinds wrote:On April 07 2013 14:19 rj rl wrote:
Why timewarp some area already stuffed with forcefields? was there medivacs? I dont remember. if there was then it's harder to pick up and drop behind FF if there is a timewarp. wait, it doesn't affect air does it? Anyways there were no vacs It doesn't affect air. Oh wow i had no idea lol. kinda like how i played 100 games before realizing reaper didnt require tech lab T.T. good to know
omg!
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On April 07 2013 14:30 PVJ wrote:
Probably I'm the only one rooting for Savage.
No not at all, I'm rooting for him to lose as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION.
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no dual ramps+collapsible rocks this time T_T
On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION.
you might as well stop watching television. And this has nothing to do with the format btw
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I will root for Bong unless we see some awesome swarmhost play so we can get a ace match.
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On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION.
You are at a computer, there is surely something you can do during that downtime.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance.
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On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION.
how is that related to format..?
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance.
The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players!
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LEZGO BONG, AVENGE SKYHIGH >:3
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players!
Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand.
Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening.
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OGN is an actual TV, so they run TV commercials in Korea, of course the downtime would be longer than usual for other leagues.
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On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players!
Units vs units.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening.
The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too.
Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech.
Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective.
Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time.
Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force.
Phoenix is on the field!
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Savage picks off a cannon and a stalker for 3 or 4 roaches and is losing ovies to Bong's phoenixes, first Vray out for Bong as well
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field!
It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords.
The roaches engage the natural!
Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off.
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So many overlords getting killed.
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Time for Savage to transition to all-in Overlord
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Bong scouts the hydra den from savage ^_^
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I take it that Bong dislikes overlords, they are getting massacred right now.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off.
Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones.
Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores.
The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way.
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That was a lot of minerals lost in overlords.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way.
No upgrades for the air forces of Bong.
He has taken a third nexus.
Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast.
Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now.
Infestor den is finished.
Bong following up harassment with many gateways.
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Vipers on the way as soon as hive finishes
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1st viper ever built in SPL!
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways.
It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army.
Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast.
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BEAUTIFUL feedbacks before the vipers can cast!:D
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:45 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways. It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army. Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast.
The vipers are sucking the life from the evos. They grow strong as Savage prepares for battle.
Zerg moves to engage the middle!!!!
Forcefields and colossus deter Savage from pusing in.
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Nice position on those templar
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Infestor/viper/roach/hydra on the way now for lamezerg
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listening to this korean cast is depressing. that's the only thing they were able to get excited about and it was some simple feedbacks :/
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:46 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:45 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Savage vs Bong 3-2. This is the chance for Bong to make a stand. He must win here in order for CJ to have a chance. The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways. It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army. Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast. The vipers are sucking the life from the evos. They grow strong as Savage prepares for battle. Zerg moves to engage the middle!!!! Forcefields and colossus deter Savage from pusing in.
Huge feedbacks were the key to his defense
Now Savage goes to harrass with skirmishes of roaches instead.
Bong reacts with his own militia harassment.
Recalll!!!!!! Bong saves his expansion as he takes a fourth base.
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Bong is a fucking bisu jesus.
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As it turns out, hydras still melt to colossi even if the colossi are in the middle of the hydras xD
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Bong eats hydra melts for brunch
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Wow those were some devastating storms.
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After Bong's first game, I had hoped to never see him again. He's changed my mind.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:47 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:46 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:45 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:37 BisuDagger wrote:
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The map is Korhal Floating Island. We have not seen this match much yet. What strategies can we expect from these two players! Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand. Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways. It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army. Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast. The vipers are sucking the life from the evos. They grow strong as Savage prepares for battle. Zerg moves to engage the middle!!!! Forcefields and colossus deter Savage from pusing in. Huge feedbacks were the key to his defense Now Savage goes to harrass with skirmishes of roaches instead. Bong reacts with his own militia harassment. Recalll!!!!!! Bong saves his expansion as he takes a fourth base.
Savage has an army of all hydras and vipers with few roaches.
Bong pushing in the middle caught of guard.
All the colossus pulled into the hydra army!
Bong follows with key storms and melts the zerg army.
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savage taking massive hits from the bong.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:48 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:47 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:46 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:45 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote:
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Bong takes his natural quickly with a forge expand.
Zerg plays standard going into a 3 base hatchery opening. The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too. Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways. It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army. Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast. The vipers are sucking the life from the evos. They grow strong as Savage prepares for battle. Zerg moves to engage the middle!!!! Forcefields and colossus deter Savage from pusing in. Huge feedbacks were the key to his defense Now Savage goes to harrass with skirmishes of roaches instead. Bong reacts with his own militia harassment. Recalll!!!!!! Bong saves his expansion as he takes a fourth base. Savage has an army of all hydras and vipers with few roaches. Bong pushing in the middle caught of guard. All the colossus pulled into the hydra army! Bong follows with key storms and melts the zerg army.
Fighting on the creep is the only thing Savage has left but its not enough.
Bong looking strong,
He has a chance to even the series. His concentration is high!
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
yes good job bong
now gogo hero ftw. or hydra, you can redeem yourself
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CJ Entus still has a chance!
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Why don't just build Ultras...
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:49 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:48 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:47 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:46 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:45 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:44 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:41 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:
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The natural hatchery is finished. How much time will Savage invest in droning. Economy is tricky until Savage can find out what Bong is up too.
Bong has his core finished and is looking to the next level of tech. Creep tumors are important on this map. The area is big and Savage must remember to always be pushing it outward so his units can be the most effective. Savage n takes a roach warren. It looks to be defensive at this time. Bong applying pressure with two Stalkers! They do quite a bit for such a tiny force. Phoenix is on the field! It looks like Savage wants to pressure with his roaches. Bong is doing his best to snipe overlords. The roaches engage the natural! Planetary nexus is enough to hold them off. Many overlords have fallen and Bong is now pressuring drones. Savage prepared well with nicely placed spores. The hydra den is finished and upgrades are on the way. No upgrades for the air forces of Bong. He has taken a third nexus. Hydras are out and run on the creep so fast. Savage has a quarter of the map in creep now. Infestor den is finished. Bong following up harassment with many gateways. It looks like colossus tech has finished. Bong choosing to mix all types of tech into his army. Vipers are on the way for Savage as he makes evo chambers to siphon from and gain energy fast. The vipers are sucking the life from the evos. They grow strong as Savage prepares for battle. Zerg moves to engage the middle!!!! Forcefields and colossus deter Savage from pusing in. Huge feedbacks were the key to his defense Now Savage goes to harrass with skirmishes of roaches instead. Bong reacts with his own militia harassment. Recalll!!!!!! Bong saves his expansion as he takes a fourth base. Savage has an army of all hydras and vipers with few roaches. Bong pushing in the middle caught of guard. All the colossus pulled into the hydra army! Bong follows with key storms and melts the zerg army. Fighting on the creep is the only thing Savage has left but its not enough. Bong looking strong, He has a chance to even the series. His concentration is high!
Savage on losing his 3rd. Bong on 4 bases with a full army.
Savage can't come back, GG!!!!!
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Thank you for saving my FTL team Bong
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Poll: Recommend Game 6?OKish (10) 67% Watch it (3) 20% If you have time (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 6? (Vote): Watch it
(Vote): OKish
(Vote): If you have time
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Cure or Argo for 8th team and herO for CJ
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
What a funny abduct, all it did was get his army killed faster.
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On April 07 2013 14:50 LighT. wrote:
HYDRA
CHOOSE HYDRA
this ! he needs to redeem himself
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On April 07 2013 14:50 Gamegene wrote:
boring game :x
dafuq is wrong with u mang
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I love storm in pvz and hope as people get better with vipers that colossi end up taking a more back seat role in the match up.
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On April 07 2013 14:51 stuchiu wrote:
What a funny abduct, all it did was get his army killed faster.
Haha, that's what I was thinking too!
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Please choose Argo, I want FPL points!
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On April 07 2013 14:51 Zenki` wrote:this ! he needs to redeem himself
But he wont, he will just lose
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On April 07 2013 14:50 Arceus wrote:Poll: Recommend Game 6?OKish (10) 67% Watch it (3) 20% If you have time (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 6? (Vote): Watch it
(Vote): OKish
(Vote): If you have time
What's with the fucked up polls today. At least have all the options.
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On April 07 2013 14:51 stuchiu wrote:
What a funny abduct, all it did was get his army killed faster.
"amazing abduct!" is the new "great force fields!"
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On April 07 2013 14:52 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:51 Zenki` wrote:On April 07 2013 14:50 LighT. wrote:
HYDRA
CHOOSE HYDRA this ! he needs to redeem himself But he wont, he will just lose
You arent invited to my birthday party no more
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On April 07 2013 14:51 RiceAgainst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:51 stuchiu wrote:
What a funny abduct, all it did was get his army killed faster. Haha, that's what I was thinking too!
He should just pull and kill Colossus one by one not all of them at once.
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On April 07 2013 14:52 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:52 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 14:51 Zenki` wrote:On April 07 2013 14:50 LighT. wrote:
HYDRA
CHOOSE HYDRA this ! he needs to redeem himself But he wont, he will just lose You arent invited to my birthday party no more
It's ok I hate cake anyway! ^^
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On April 07 2013 14:47 Gamegene wrote:
listening to this korean cast is depressing. that's the only thing they were able to get excited about and it was some simple feedbacks :/
what the.. seemed exciting to me. Also who gives a crap what they are excited about think for yourself!
simple feedbacks which stopped his one timing attack that had a chance forcing him to sit back and let the protoss become stronger.
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hahahhaa hero almost trips, so qt ^.^
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ofc herO ^^
Can we bet on phoenix battles?
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stop with redundant poll options. these polls are resources. it's ok to be try to be funny from time to time but its main purpose is to provide ratings to these VODs
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Hooray, I hope Argo can pull out a win in dominating fashion!
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Damn...A side of me wishes hero tripped on that wire, thus making hydra get sent out as a replacement :<..
PvP...BORING WAY TO FINISH THIS OFF ><!
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herO has got this, I love seeing him play. herO fighting! :D
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On April 07 2013 14:51 GTPGlitch wrote:dafuq is wrong with u mang
game had a really slow pace leading up to a battle where it was... just a one sided slaughter.
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no surprise for ace match considering Naro has been featuring mostly tosses so far
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On April 07 2013 14:54 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:51 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 07 2013 14:50 Gamegene wrote:
boring game :x dafuq is wrong with u mang game had a really slow pace leading up to a battle where it was... just a one sided slaughter.
Exactly.
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i love herO but my SPL needs team 8's victory ... and plus too many users own herO.... t.t. sorry baby
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On April 07 2013 14:52 fuzzylogic44 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:50 Arceus wrote:Poll: Recommend Game 6?OKish (10) 67% Watch it (3) 20% If you have time (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 6? (Vote): Watch it
(Vote): OKish
(Vote): If you have time
What's with the fucked up polls today. At least have all the options.
My thoughts exactly. Stop giving the polls stupid options just because you thought a game was boring.
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Does this give herO an opportunity for a 9game winstreak?:D
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On April 07 2013 14:55 YourHarry wrote:
i love herO but my SPL needs team 8's victory ... and plus too many users own herO.... t.t. sorry baby
How do you know how many people own herO?
You can't check those stats until the first round is done.
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On April 07 2013 14:35 Arceus wrote:no dual ramps+collapsible rocks this time T_T Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION. you might as well stop watching television. And this has nothing to do with the format btw
Broadcasting format bro.
It isn't that hard to realize what I was referring to.
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On April 07 2013 14:58 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:55 YourHarry wrote:
i love herO but my SPL needs team 8's victory ... and plus too many users own herO.... t.t. sorry baby How do you know how many people own herO? You can't check those stats until the first round is done.
Maybe they posted in the "post your fpl team" thread.
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On April 07 2013 14:58 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:55 YourHarry wrote:
i love herO but my SPL needs team 8's victory ... and plus too many users own herO.... t.t. sorry baby How do you know how many people own herO? You can't check those stats until the first round is done.
correct. i can only infer from herO's popularity in previous rounds and via thread where people post their FPL team roster
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On April 07 2013 14:59 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:35 Arceus wrote:no dual ramps+collapsible rocks this time T_T On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION. you might as well stop watching television. And this has nothing to do with the format btw Broadcasting format bro. It isn't that hard to realize what I was referring to.
Yes it was because you said PROLEAGUE FORMAT.
What do you think off when you say that?...
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On April 07 2013 14:55 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:54 Gamegene wrote:On April 07 2013 14:51 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 07 2013 14:50 Gamegene wrote:
boring game :x dafuq is wrong with u mang game had a really slow pace leading up to a battle where it was... just a one sided slaughter. Exactly.
don't know if you're telling me i should be less negative about it, but honestly it's not really fun to watch for me when i know the game was over 3 minute ago.
fun to play games like that, definitely not entertaining watching a cast of it.
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On April 07 2013 15:00 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:59 stevarius wrote:On April 07 2013 14:35 Arceus wrote:no dual ramps+collapsible rocks this time T_T On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION. you might as well stop watching television. And this has nothing to do with the format btw Broadcasting format bro. It isn't that hard to realize what I was referring to. Yes it was because you said PROLEAGUE FORMAT. What do you think off when you say that?...
he thinks "kespa sucks" and seeks for the pretext
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On April 07 2013 14:59 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:35 Arceus wrote:no dual ramps+collapsible rocks this time T_T On April 07 2013 14:35 stevarius wrote:
Proleague format is absolutely awful.
The time between matches is fucking unbearably long. How dare they show replays of boring games on SLOW MOTION. you might as well stop watching television. And this has nothing to do with the format btw Broadcasting format bro. It isn't that hard to realize what I was referring to.
go complain somewhere where it helps.
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On April 07 2013 15:02 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 14:55 Tobblish wrote:On April 07 2013 14:54 Gamegene wrote:On April 07 2013 14:51 GTPGlitch wrote:On April 07 2013 14:50 Gamegene wrote:
boring game :x dafuq is wrong with u mang game had a really slow pace leading up to a battle where it was... just a one sided slaughter. Exactly. don't know if you're telling me i should be less negative about it, but honestly it's not really fun to watch for me when i know the game was over 3 minute ago. fun to play games like that, definitely not entertaining watching a cast of it.
People love big fights what can I say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Imagine if HerO got DQ'd for not having his headset and then T8 gets the win. Good thing he didn't.
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opterown
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United States97276 Posts
I just realized EffOrt was on my anti. nice
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lets go argo! for my fpl! H
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The preview of the map made me think it had a lot more air space around the edges than it does
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On April 07 2013 15:06 slowbacontron wrote:
free was a dragon :o
so was bisu hehehehe
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United States33392 Posts
fuuuuuck his recall worked
we were so close to a landmark moment
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I still have no clue how much health things have with these health bars T_T
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United States97276 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:13 Bibbit wrote:
I still have no clue how much health things have with these health bars T_T
I know I see the red and instinctively think it's about to die
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I've never felt so disappointed at someone playing well.
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Hmm herO cancelled his VR and started the robo instead there. Think he was expecting a fake blink and DTs instead here...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I'm confused, couldn't he just hallucinate a phoenix and blink to the side where the sentries aren't?
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cmon herO go kill him T_T
2 stargates down for jaehoon
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Did blizzard ever explain why right-clicking destructible objects equals attacking them? I can't see a single reason
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Noclipping into the map wall won't save you, Phoenix
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I dont think I've ever heard a caster bungle a sentence so badly in so many ways
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United States97276 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:19 rj rl wrote:
Did blizzard ever explain why right-clicking destructible objects equals attacking them? I can't see a single reason
I think it was because of things like that Lucifron reaper - accidental right click when moving units around while microing
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um, herO, u need moar things that shoot up :d
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opterown
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:19 rj rl wrote:
Did blizzard ever explain why right-clicking destructible objects equals attacking them? I can't see a single reason
Patch 2.0.7
An attack command is now required in order to attack Destructible Rocks, which are no longer automatically attacked by units when right-clicked.
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Lmao, the casting is everywhere it's hilarious.
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These casters are hilarious. :D
Good thing those void rays backed off.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays.
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On April 07 2013 15:21 stuchiu wrote:
Blue Lasers > Red Lasers
Indeed silly herO, when you want to win you go voidray's.
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Jaehoon better fawkin choke >:c
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On April 07 2013 15:22 Williammm wrote:
the pressure! dat sweat!
Burning those calories!
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays.
Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6.
Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map.
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Someone bring that man a towel
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ah, so argo is just one of gumiho's hands.
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argo what the fuck man attack already...
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Oh no, is Argo gonna pull a Crank-throw? I mean, the throws he did in BW?
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map.
The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back.
Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done.
Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids.
The third has been found by Argo!
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you can attack Argo, jesus christ.
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On April 07 2013 15:23 RiceAgainst wrote:
Oh no, is Argo gonna pull a Crank-throw? I mean, the throws he did in BW?
Just as he's about to finish off Hero, he's gonna accidently recall his units home somehow
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo!
Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero.
Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there.
Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position.
Argo has a huge ball of archons!
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United States97276 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:25 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:23 RiceAgainst wrote:
Oh no, is Argo gonna pull a Crank-throw? I mean, the throws he did in BW? Just as he's about to finish off Hero, he's gonna accidently recall his units home somehow
hopefully he only recalls half
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I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned.
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That feedback felt really pure
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ohh god, these casters! WHY ! they aaaaaaaaaare so fucking bad
User was temp banned for this post.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
stream is bugging out so much zzz
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons!
The mothership core moves in first!
Argo pocking in on the natural of hero.
Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo.
Both players on two bases.
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On April 07 2013 15:21 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:19 rj rl wrote:
Did blizzard ever explain why right-clicking destructible objects equals attacking them? I can't see a single reason Patch 2.0.7Show nested quote +An attack command is now required in order to attack Destructible Rocks, which are no longer automatically attacked by units when right-clicked.
oh thank gods the penny's dropped!
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On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned.
Yep. never again will i put him on my anti LOL
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Nerves are always the great equalizer.
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Attack dammit,give me dem points wtf are you doing?!?
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Argo is pretty terrified of that nexus cannon.
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herO needs a buch of ghosts to beat that army T_T
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:26 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons! The mothership core moves in first! Argo pocking in on the natural of hero. Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo. Both players on two bases.
The 6 position nexus finally falls to two zlots of Argo.
The armies are highly in Argo's favor 144 to 112.
Argo slowly picks off units and camps the natural of hero.
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I admire Hero's dedication to trying to get a base
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:26 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons! The mothership core moves in first! Argo pocking in on the natural of hero. Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo. Both players on two bases. The 6 position nexus finally falls to two zlots of Argo. The armies are highly in Argo's favor 144 to 112. Argo slowly picks off units and camps the natural of hero.
No storm for Argo just straight to Archons. He has +1 weapon for his ground army.
Harrasment with blink stalkers at Argo's new third but he defends heros aggression.
Hero can only stall to stay in the game.
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good lord this is frustrating to watch.
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He has 13 colossus.
But he doesn't have the colossus to push in.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Blue lasers and blue balls, what a god composition.
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Where is he hiding his nine other colossi?!
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Void rays out of position!
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On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned.
He has been on my main for all but round 2 i think!
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holy shit Jaehoon needs to borrow gumiho's towel
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Argo can possibly lose this game if he keeps playing like this
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This game is pissing me off.
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Argo going full Failhoon!
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that's why he's called Failhoon -.-
so bad
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rofl looks like jaehoon is about to die from pressure on his close ups
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:28 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:26 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons! The mothership core moves in first! Argo pocking in on the natural of hero. Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo. Both players on two bases. The 6 position nexus finally falls to two zlots of Argo. The armies are highly in Argo's favor 144 to 112. Argo slowly picks off units and camps the natural of hero. No storm for Argo just straight to Archons. He has +1 weapon for his ground army. Harrasment with blink stalkers at Argo's new third but he defends heros aggression. Hero can only stall to stay in the game.
Hero moves out again with many colossus!!!!
He pushes Argo back but their are many void rays floating around. When will they engage hero!
The armies are still far apart in supply but Hero being aggressive anyway.
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I want to punch Argo in the face. He could've ended this 10 minutes ago
So frustrating
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Colosi micro ... who knew
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The stream bugging out makes it seem like it's going to be one of those games where it's going to take a dump at a critical point.
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On April 07 2013 15:29 Gosi wrote:
rofl looks like jaehoon is about to die from pressure on his close ups
Thats what herO is banking on
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OMG! Epic timewarp! dat mfing timewarp!!!
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I am soooooooooooooo mad right now.
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This is the ugliest PvP I have ever seen.
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This is the worst game+casting I've seen in a long time.
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:30 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:28 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:26 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons! The mothership core moves in first! Argo pocking in on the natural of hero. Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo. Both players on two bases. The 6 position nexus finally falls to two zlots of Argo. The armies are highly in Argo's favor 144 to 112. Argo slowly picks off units and camps the natural of hero. No storm for Argo just straight to Archons. He has +1 weapon for his ground army. Harrasment with blink stalkers at Argo's new third but he defends heros aggression. Hero can only stall to stay in the game. Hero moves out again with many colossus!!!! He pushes Argo back but their are many void rays floating around. When will they engage hero! The armies are still far apart in supply but Hero being aggressive anyway.
Engagements happen and Hero uses storm.
Voids engage with the Archons and wreck everything but the colossus.
Hero takes a third.
Mothership core spells do nothing to help Hero at this time.
Argo looking to be aggressive now.
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I think i have never said what i am going to;
this game is fucking horrible (from both)
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this game is so ridiculous
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Thank GOD GG
I was gonna have a brain aneurysm
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Someone get a gif of that victory face plz.
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Did somebody call an HVAC specialist?
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:31 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:30 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:28 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:26 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:24 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:23 BisuDagger wrote:On April 07 2013 15:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Hero was moments away from taking this game. Argo with just enough time to get out his void rays. Both players are on two bases but hero is the first to start a nexus at a third hidden at the bottom of the map at the 6. Argo has taken to the air and is moving his void rays around looking for anything on the map. The third is done! Hero may have been behind but now he has a chance to come back. Archons will be on the way as the templar archives is almost done. Archons for Argo are done as he uses them along with his voids. The third has been found by Argo! Mining does not exist at the third now for Hero. Argo with his army at the bottom does not need to engage the third. He leaves to zlots to attack there. Hero attempting another third at the 6.5 position. Argo has a huge ball of archons! The mothership core moves in first! Argo pocking in on the natural of hero. Some zlots backstap destroying the third nexus that just finished for argo. Both players on two bases. The 6 position nexus finally falls to two zlots of Argo. The armies are highly in Argo's favor 144 to 112. Argo slowly picks off units and camps the natural of hero. No storm for Argo just straight to Archons. He has +1 weapon for his ground army. Harrasment with blink stalkers at Argo's new third but he defends heros aggression. Hero can only stall to stay in the game. Hero moves out again with many colossus!!!! He pushes Argo back but their are many void rays floating around. When will they engage hero! The armies are still far apart in supply but Hero being aggressive anyway. Engagements happen and Hero uses storm. Voids engage with the Archons and wreck everything but the colossus. Hero takes a third. Mothership core spells do nothing to help Hero at this time. Argo looking to be aggressive now.
Argo goes in and snipes Hero's nexus once again!!!!
His army now takes on hero's and Argo looks to victory.
HE SMILES!
GG!!!!!!!
TEAM 8 wins it all!!!!!
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imagine if argo was just trolling the whole time
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shit eating grin right there hahaha
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Jaehoon always makes his games hilarious in some manner. So much <3
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Poll: ACE Match?Yes (31) 72% No (8) 19% If You Have Time (4) 9% 43 total votes Your vote: ACE Match? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If You Have Time
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Haha finally Jeahoon wins grats to T8.
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everytime they show jaehoon's face I can't help but chuckle.
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opterown
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so sad, both my FPL teams were so close to owning it up the past two days. so closeeee
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On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned.
Looks like you learned wrong. He's on my team and I'm happy for it.
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fucking jaehoon LAKJFDALSJDFDSF
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United States97276 Posts
If he had thrown that... damn
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herO finally loses after a long streak right?
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blah, at least CJ wins in the uniform category <3
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:32 Arceus wrote:Poll: ACE Match?Yes (31) 72% No (8) 19% If You Have Time (4) 9% 43 total votes Your vote: ACE Match? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If You Have Time
Thanks for thread!!!!!
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Argo !@#$ yourself (movie quote)...yes? Anyway, seriously Argo, just go F'ing kill him with your 50+ supply lead!
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Didn't except Ace win points from Jaehoon today! Sickkkk.
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Silly Jaehoon. I still like your games tho.
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On April 07 2013 15:32 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned. Looks like you learned wrong. He's on my team and I'm happy for it.
I finally learned to not put him on anti team.
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His sweat, geez. Gratz T8, I knew I should've picked Jaehoon over Terminator. GG though!
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On April 07 2013 15:33 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:32 Maesy wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned. Looks like you learned wrong. He's on my team and I'm happy for it. I finally learned to not put him on anti team.
Oh, then you learned right!
*Gives Dodgin a cookie*
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Argo was feeding off his own sweat towards the end. Lickin up that POWER!
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United States97276 Posts
oh well. CJ loss means my anti is still at 0. Now just need AriA > Jaedong and WJS > EGTL for a 0 through the first half of the week
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On April 07 2013 15:33 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:32 Maesy wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned. Looks like you learned wrong. He's on my team and I'm happy for it. I finally learned to not put him on anti team.
On the contrary, this game convinced me to trade FOR him for my antiteam.
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the way herO held on was admirable even if he was playing against Jaehoon. Sadly my FPL ends up failing but that's alright.
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Most intense game ever. Also most hilarious. Argo looked like he just played the game of his life.
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On April 07 2013 15:32 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:31 politik wrote:
This is the worst game+casting I've seen in a long time. It is up there for sure.
my ears fell off
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well, that's two ace wins on my undefeated FPL team.
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and now for the long climb of EG-TL....
Think they need to win, what was it? 14/21 matches. Yeah..
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The second matches are starting really late so far. Over 1 hour late both times. Yes they were 4-3 series but had many quick games...
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Some one better replace the chair Jeahoon sat on, no way can that thing be dry.
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On April 07 2013 15:33 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:32 Arceus wrote:Poll: ACE Match?Yes (31) 72% No (8) 19% If You Have Time (4) 9% 43 total votes Your vote: ACE Match? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If You Have Time
Thanks for thread!!!!!
+1
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On April 07 2013 15:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
and now for the long climb of EG-TL....
Think they need to win, what was it? 14/21 matches. Yeah..
Eh, that's not so impossible
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On April 07 2013 15:34 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:33 Dodgin wrote:On April 07 2013 15:32 Maesy wrote:On April 07 2013 15:25 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder how many people put failhoon on anti this round, I finally learned. Looks like you learned wrong. He's on my team and I'm happy for it. I finally learned to not put him on anti team. On the contrary, this game convinced me to trade FOR him for my antiteam.
He just got like 7 points. People have been consistently burned by making that decision. Just because he didn't want to engage storm with 5 void rays doesn't mean he's bad.
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ok now hope that the favorite weekly EGTL beat-up will make up for this sadness !_!
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On April 07 2013 15:34 Garnet wrote:
Most intense game ever. Also most hilarious. Argo looked like he just played the game of his life.
yeah it reminded me the famous jh vs fbh game
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Scoring:
T8 +2
CJ +1
herO[jOin] +2
Bbyong +3
Speed +4
Alone +4
Jaehoon +8
Bong[S.G] +3
all other T8 players +1
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Sigh Jaehoon, always ruining my anti teams. More fail recall and less ace match win plz
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On April 07 2013 15:34 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:32 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 07 2013 15:31 politik wrote:
This is the worst game+casting I've seen in a long time. It is up there for sure. my ears fell off
The game was fine, but whiplash pretty clearly didn't know what he was talking about for most of the game.
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United States10328 Posts
On April 07 2013 15:40 Proseat wrote:
Scoring:
T8 +2
CJ +1
herO[jOin] +2
Bbyong +3
Speed +4
Alone +4
Jaehoon +8
Bong[S.G] +3
all other T8 players +1
woo +14
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Well, Jaehoon on my anti-team.
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This was the best possible result for my FPL WOOOHOOO
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Argo on my team scoring some big points, yay!
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YES! T8 takes the win! And I pout effort on my anti, with Speed on my team! And T8 is my team! YES!!!! SUCCESSS!
OMG I HAVE ARGO ON MY TEAM TOO!!!! SO PUMPED!!!
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all vods have been updated in OP guys
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Ahhhh...so close,yet so far! :/
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JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!!
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!!
oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever"
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On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever"
dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones
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Bbyong and Cure get the job done. As expected yeah :D
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever"
Which would you say were much better?
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better?
On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones
mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile
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On April 07 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better? Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile
So it would be right to say it's one of the best ever and not "nowhere near best ever".
I think there's too many things that can make a game great to ever call any single game 'the best' anyway and would rather just settle with calling them all great games.
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opterown
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On April 07 2013 20:22 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better? On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile So it would be right to say it's one of the best ever and not "nowhere near best ever". I think there's too many things that can make a game great to ever call any single game 'the best' anyway and would rather just settle with calling them all great games.
i was responding to this:
On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!!
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TY has 44% win rate in sc2 i dont know what happened to him
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On April 07 2013 20:23 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:22 Giriath wrote:On April 07 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better? On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile So it would be right to say it's one of the best ever and not "nowhere near best ever". I think there's too many things that can make a game great to ever call any single game 'the best' anyway and would rather just settle with calling them all great games. i was responding to this: Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!!
? Yes I know...I was responding to your response.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 07 2013 20:50 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:23 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:22 Giriath wrote:On April 07 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better? On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile So it would be right to say it's one of the best ever and not "nowhere near best ever". I think there's too many things that can make a game great to ever call any single game 'the best' anyway and would rather just settle with calling them all great games. i was responding to this: On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! ? Yes I know...I was responding to your response.
well that original post claimed it was the best ever, i was saying that it was merely great and not quite the best ever?
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On April 07 2013 20:51 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:50 Giriath wrote:On April 07 2013 20:23 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:22 Giriath wrote:On April 07 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 20:05 Zealously wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" Which would you say were much better? On April 07 2013 20:02 DiMano wrote:On April 07 2013 19:40 opterown wrote:On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! oh i dno if it was that good, there have been better ones. qualifies as "great game" but nowhere near "best ever" dunno I watched all gsl and spl games and can not remember better ones mkp-parting on TDA and entombed (if you removed the controversy), parting vs. jjakji, mc vs. thorzain, were all just as good if not better, and higher profile So it would be right to say it's one of the best ever and not "nowhere near best ever". I think there's too many things that can make a game great to ever call any single game 'the best' anyway and would rather just settle with calling them all great games. i was responding to this: On April 07 2013 19:23 DiMano wrote:
JUST WATCHED THE BEST PvT in StarCraft II YOU MUST SEE HERO VS TY!!! ? Yes I know...I was responding to your response. well that original post claimed it was the best ever, i was saying that it was merely great and not quite the best ever?
First you said it qualified as great but nowhere near the best. When he asked for examples you picked some and said they were as good or maybe even better. I called you out on the difference of in one instance calling it "nowhere near the best" and then maybe as good as those examples of the very best PvT games you picked.
Otherwise I agree they're all great games and I don't think any one game should ever be called 'the best ever', because there are so many things that make up a great game.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
well the reason i said they were as good or even better is because it's a matter of opinion and i'm not going to make any hard claims since that just sparks a crapton of debate, see? gotta keep others' opinions in mind
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"Merely great"... :D
Well it's apparently still a must-see, so that's what I'll do.
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On April 07 2013 21:03 ZenithM wrote:
"Merely great"... :D
Well it's apparently still a must-see, so that's what I'll do.
You'll love it! And on that note I'm going to watch again...after I've made some lunch.
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Ah almost forgot CJ lost so it's another 9/10 this week. One of these days I'll get another perfect D:
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O MY GOD I THINK I CAN WIN THIS WEEK FOR FPL! DAT JAEHOON GAMBLE EFFECT IS PAYING OFF!!! :D
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I went to bed after game 5, but I managed to catch the vods just now for the last two games. That was a VERY entertaining PvP, and usually I loathe PvP. It was one of the most enjoyable PvPs that I've seen so far in SC2.
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
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