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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#181
On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.

It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.

The games have been amazing.


The main thing is the production, it's still lacking a lot that could be fixed so easily it's sad
The curse is real
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
April 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#182
On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.

It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.

The games have been amazing.

I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype.

just watch the korean stream

it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't)
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
April 07 2013 03:50 GMT
#183
On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map!

Eventually no one will play anything else.

Daybreak 2.0...

Fighting Spirit 2.0... On Korean BW servers it is the only map played.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 07 2013 03:50 GMT
#184
To be frank..people talk about deathballs...in SC2 but in BWTvP was basically death ball vs deathball except this time, Terran had the mech composition whilethe toss were scrambling to get off good offensive engagements.
I think the unit clumping and the fact that there's less micro-intensive unit like the colosseus in play it isnt as impactful.

Also SC:BW had some terrible games as well.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 07 2013 03:50 GMT
#185
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 07 2013 03:50 GMT
#186
On April 07 2013 12:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Great game, I love this new map!

Eventually no one will play anything else.

Daybreak 2.0...

But does it win the Nestea award?
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 07 2013 03:51 GMT
#187
On April 07 2013 12:49 ThomasR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:49 AgentW wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.

It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.

The games have been amazing.

I hate to start up the caster and production bashing again, but if these teams were playing in GSTL with all other things equal, I think there's plenty of hype.

just watch the korean stream

it's entertaining even if you don't understand korean (i don't)

I can live with it, I'm just saying that others don't want to put up with it. Personally, I like listening and learning how I can better understand an articulate as a player by how not to do it a lot of the time.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:51:56
April 07 2013 03:51 GMT
#188
On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.

It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.

The games have been amazing.

Edit - Also nice to see the stream finished.

Also I'm okay with the down time being just the team's current score and match ups (I'm tired of the "mind mind mind" we had yesterday >.>).


Try not to worry so much about how many people are watching and how much attention It's getting and just enjoy it. We have our little community here on TL and that's enough for me.

Last night there were 14.5k peak viewers on twitch for KHAN vs STX, It's not doing that poorly.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 07 2013 03:51 GMT
#189
LOL are they hyping bear
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#190
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#191
On April 07 2013 12:51 opterown wrote:
LOL are they hyping bear

I missed it what happened?
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
April 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#192
On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"

But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel.

Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2?

Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"?

Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on.


When Bisu loses to a hydra bust for the umpteeth time when trying to qualify for <insert tournament here>, then yeah it's probably not going to be recommended >.>.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#193
On April 07 2013 12:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:48 Goldfish wrote:
There needs to be more hype for Proleague now.

It doesn't matter if it's Team 8 or <insert team here that "is not" SKT or KT or EGTL> here.

The games have been amazing.

Edit - Also nice to see the stream finished.

Also I'm okay with the down time being just the team's current score and match ups (I'm tired of the "mind mind mind" we had yesterday >.>).


Try not to worry so much about how many people are watching and how much attention It's getting and just enjoy it. We have our little community here on TL and that's enough for me.

Last night there were 14.5k peak viewers on twitch for KHAN vs STX, It's not doing that poorly.

It's also at an awful time for either Europeans or Americans depending on the match. The division of the market cannot be a good thing for viewership.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#194
On April 07 2013 12:48 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:
Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better.

It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far.

Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys !

Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch.


The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact.

Theres more to that IMO.
The KeSPA map makers are more used to the gameplay of SC2 now.
They know the adjustments and the kind of maps to make thus some amazing maps like Sanctuary and FS coming into play.
The players are also used to the UI and the units abilities, save a few.
So it's a combination of players developing new strategies for a relatively novel game and translating better as opposed to SC:BW to SC2: WoL.
A great combination.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#195
On April 07 2013 12:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:51 opterown wrote:
LOL are they hyping bear

I missed it what happened?

played some video about STX and KHAN and they had a segment where they fulldoomzoomed into bear's player card lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:53:57
April 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#196
On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"

But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel.

Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2?


HotS has done an great job at improving the gameplay of SC2, so what you hear about BW > SC2 is BW > WoL. In BW, games do not end in one huge 15 second battle. When people see good games in SC2, they just watched a back and forth game. BW was a game that allowed for more back and forth and things are not as all-inny or committed as they are in SC2. That and mechanics alone can bring yourself back in a game.
T P Z sagi
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
April 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#197
On April 07 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:47 AgentW wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:46 xxpack09 wrote:
You know, my opinion on SC2 so far has been "good game, but no BW"

But when I see games like this... it just makes me smile. Games like this make SC2 a worthy sequel.

Okay, I wasn't around for BW but when people say things like this it makes it sound like there were no bad games in BW. Truthfully, I can't believe that. I know there's obvious bias involved in this question and answer, but were there as many "bad" BW games as SC2?

Out of curiosity I went back to some of the old BW threads and almost half of the games were not recommended. Also there was a lot of complaining about something called a "hydra bust"?

Maybe BW was a better game but there is definitely some bias going on.

BW games were (in my opinion) generally more interesting compared to Wol games. Even the bad BW games were better than average WoL ones.

Hydra bust was a zerg all in against protoss where you built Hydras and attacked, pretty much. Some BW zerg players were well known for only being able to Hydra bust against protoss.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:53:58
April 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#198
On April 07 2013 12:53 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:48 Hrrrrm wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:45 Goldfish wrote:
Somehow... Proleague keeps getting better and better.

It's like 10x better than WoL Proleague already, and the games' quality (most of them so far) are competing for the best HotS games so far.

Seriously, the stream links needs to be added soon guys !

Proleague needs to go back to being one of the best tournaments to watch.


The magic is everyone figuring out new strats and getting used to new units. In a couple of months things will get more stable but from now till maybe 3-4 months we're going to witness some amazing games. Even if they are full of mistakes, it's not because the players are bad but because everyone is still learning and exploiting that fact.

Theres more to that IMO.
The KeSPA map makers are more used to the gameplay of SC2 now.
They know the adjustments and the kind of maps to make thus some amazing maps like Sanctuary and FS coming into play.
The players are also used to the UI and the units abilities, save a few.
So it's a combination of players developing new strategies for a relatively novel game and translating better as opposed to SC:BW to SC2: WoL.
A great combination.

the kespa mapmakers are the exact same dudes who made the GSL sc2 maps man
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#199
On April 07 2013 12:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:51 opterown wrote:
LOL are they hyping bear

I missed it what happened?

played some video about STX and KHAN and they had a segment where they fulldoomzoomed into bear's player card lol

I'm still waiting for IEG to do an interview with him about being the UWC
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
April 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#200
Who goes tank who GG
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