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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 22:26:40
April 04 2013 21:36 GMT
#3081
On April 05 2013 06:04 garrett345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:46 Killmouse wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:09 Avs wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:04 garrett345 wrote:
Does anyone know whether there will be rebroadcast today?


I hope so.

All I see is ESL and MLG releasing their VODs for free just like Riot does for their WCS/LCS series. Meanwhile GSL and twitch both require some sort of subscription. There are reports that twitch charges 20 bucks a month for their vods. GSL on the otherhand charges 20 bucks per season. I thought the idea was to make Starcraft more popular.

vods were never free in gsl... just a business model, companys are income driven, cant give everything for free else they ll go bankrupt , be happy about free 720 in gsl


But having free 720p is irrelevant if it is broadcasted at 11am eu time and 5am us time. It is one step forward, two steps back in this regard. They are idiots, there are so many people who watch starcraft on youtube (husky etc.) and most of them have no idea there is gsl.

why its 2 step backwards? its not like gsl had free vods before?? so its 1 step forward and no backwards, before u had also to buy sub to get vods , whats the problem?? u get 720 p free suddenly everything have to be free? this is not how market works u cant get everything for free


sometimes ppl are never happy.... u get something that wasnt like that before -> still complaining... people stop livin in a bubble
yo
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#3082
On April 05 2013 06:04 garrett345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:46 Killmouse wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:09 Avs wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:04 garrett345 wrote:
Does anyone know whether there will be rebroadcast today?


I hope so.

All I see is ESL and MLG releasing their VODs for free just like Riot does for their WCS/LCS series. Meanwhile GSL and twitch both require some sort of subscription. There are reports that twitch charges 20 bucks a month for their vods. GSL on the otherhand charges 20 bucks per season. I thought the idea was to make Starcraft more popular.

vods were never free in gsl... just a business model, companys are income driven, cant give everything for free else they ll go bankrupt , be happy about free 720 in gsl


But having free 720p is irrelevant if it is broadcasted at 11am eu time and 5am us time. It is one step forward, two steps back in this regard. They are idiots, there are so many people who watch starcraft on youtube (husky etc.) and most of them have no idea there is gsl.


Just stop watching if they are such idiots.
Jaedong & Faker
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 04 2013 22:37 GMT
#3083
Yeah baby, Bomber brought it back! I was worried when I had to leave, Bomber being down one game. This is badass!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 04 2013 22:51 GMT
#3084
On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played.


To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season?

80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR

even 60% on KR is pretty damn impressive already. If I'm not wrong MVP was used to be around that percentage back in WoL and most of top players are about that.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 04 2013 23:08 GMT
#3085
On April 05 2013 07:51 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played.


To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season?

80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR

even 60% on KR is pretty damn impressive already. If I'm not wrong MVP was used to be around that percentage back in WoL and most of top players are about that.


I'm a big fan of sage, ever since he slaughtered (Losira?) on GSL with phoenixes and zealots I was a fan. The only toss I'm more excited by is KA Templar San
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
April 04 2013 23:21 GMT
#3086
On April 05 2013 06:36 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 06:04 garrett345 wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:46 Killmouse wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:09 Avs wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:04 garrett345 wrote:
Does anyone know whether there will be rebroadcast today?


I hope so.

All I see is ESL and MLG releasing their VODs for free just like Riot does for their WCS/LCS series. Meanwhile GSL and twitch both require some sort of subscription. There are reports that twitch charges 20 bucks a month for their vods. GSL on the otherhand charges 20 bucks per season. I thought the idea was to make Starcraft more popular.

vods were never free in gsl... just a business model, companys are income driven, cant give everything for free else they ll go bankrupt , be happy about free 720 in gsl


But having free 720p is irrelevant if it is broadcasted at 11am eu time and 5am us time. It is one step forward, two steps back in this regard. They are idiots, there are so many people who watch starcraft on youtube (husky etc.) and most of them have no idea there is gsl.

why its 2 step backwards? its not like gsl had free vods before?? so its 1 step forward and no backwards, before u had also to buy sub to get vods , whats the problem?? u get 720 p free suddenly everything have to be free? this is not how market works u cant get everything for free


sometimes ppl are never happy.... u get something that wasnt like that before -> still complaining... people stop livin in a bubble



do you expect different from people on the internet? I think you may be the one in a bubble....
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 05 2013 01:39 GMT
#3087
Roro did better than I expected for a guy who switched so late. I guess this is where a pro-team really helps in helping with quicker transition.

Bomber, though, seems destined once again to leave in the Ro16...
Meh
hastur420
Profile Joined March 2013
Belize178 Posts
April 05 2013 02:10 GMT
#3088
On April 05 2013 08:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 07:51 tuho12345 wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played.


To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season?

80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR

even 60% on KR is pretty damn impressive already. If I'm not wrong MVP was used to be around that percentage back in WoL and most of top players are about that.


I'm a big fan of sage, ever since he slaughtered (Losira?) on GSL with phoenixes and zealots I was a fan. The only toss I'm more excited by is KA Templar San


Sage's been owning up Eu at the end of wol, anyone who watched his stream (like me) saw that his builds are crystal clean and crisp, and his micro and control was unpeccable. he didn't even play a game in korea for like a year so i'm not sure how he would do there, but considering that even DRG had troubles getting into code S and managing to do so only with an MLG seed, chances are good that he wouldn't tear up shit there... still, wouldn't say that he is not top tier, simply because we don't know. based on his stream I would say he is but who knows.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 05 2013 03:01 GMT
#3089
On April 05 2013 06:04 garrett345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:46 Killmouse wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:09 Avs wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:04 garrett345 wrote:
Does anyone know whether there will be rebroadcast today?


I hope so.

All I see is ESL and MLG releasing their VODs for free just like Riot does for their WCS/LCS series. Meanwhile GSL and twitch both require some sort of subscription. There are reports that twitch charges 20 bucks a month for their vods. GSL on the otherhand charges 20 bucks per season. I thought the idea was to make Starcraft more popular.

vods were never free in gsl... just a business model, companys are income driven, cant give everything for free else they ll go bankrupt , be happy about free 720 in gsl


But having free 720p is irrelevant if it is broadcasted at 11am eu time and 5am us time. It is one step forward, two steps back in this regard. They are idiots, there are so many people who watch starcraft on youtube (husky etc.) and most of them have no idea there is gsl.


Idiots who unlike pretty much everyone else in Esports are running a profitable business. Shit costs money, get over it.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
April 05 2013 03:07 GMT
#3090
On April 04 2013 21:14 baubo wrote:
Figured I'd throw in my 2 cents on the matchups so far in HOTS, as this is my first live view of a major HOTS tournament.

ZvZ: Tastetosis comparison to BW ZvZ is so off. There's almost no similarity besides mutas. Perhaps in the future it will develop into the razor-thin BW ZvZ as players understand timings more, but right now it's the worst type of BW ZvZ, the muta build up where neither player could transition and neither could attack.


I agree. While it is probably them not wanting to be too negative though (since they usually like to give props to Blizzard, which is good), Blizzard can learn from BW ZvZ if they want it to be Mutalisk wars.

Mutalisks handle and move and attack nothing like BW Mutalisk (which can attack and move at the same time, and dance around all over the place).

Scourges also had to be cloned (you couldn't just a-move the Scourge then have them all hit Mutalisks without overattacking like with Banelings in SC2), which was neat and also required skill and made the matchup more fun to watch and play.

Mutalisks can attack and keep acceleration as long as it's facing the same direction as the target, before it attacks.

Now, this means when you attack, you either attack a unit directly (so the Mutalisk automatically turns to the target before attacking), or when you attack-move or hold position, you need to make sure the Mutalisk is facing the direction of the target.

To "dance", Mutalisk can actually move back and forth almost instantly.

However, when Mutalisk attacks, if it attacks move (and if the target is behind them for example), the Mutalisk will lose speed and screw up.

It's not just a "how fast you can click" mechanic, Mutalisk micro required careful attention, precision, and speed.

Also, Mutalisk in SC2 cannot attack and move at the same time (they stop a bit as they're attacking).

The only reason I'm bringing up this all is because if Blizzard can copy the BW ZvZ, then this makes SC2 a better game.

Mutalisk should be more like BW Mutalisk. There are many ways to do something similar to BW Mutalisk in the SC2 engine.

Anyway, as for other matchups, that could use some fine tuning as well but since Zerg is currently the weakest, buffing Mutalisk by giving them BW (how Mutalisk handle and can attack and move without stopping, etc) may not probably be too much of a big deal (if it's too much, they can nerf the regen a bit). Regeneration is okay but it is no replacement for what Mutalisk can do in BW (Regen in SC2 is just "Mutalisks are better but still limited in control", Mutalisk's ability in BW is "the Mutalisk was good as the player controlling it due to how they worked in BW").
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 05 2013 03:26 GMT
#3091
BW zvz is the worse matchup in sc and sc2....

There's literally one strategy--one. Enjoying BW zvz is like enjoying 2010 pvp...
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 03:30:58
April 05 2013 03:30 GMT
#3092
On April 05 2013 12:26 Thieving Magpie wrote:
BW zvz is the worse matchup in sc and sc2....

There's literally one strategy--one. Enjoying BW zvz is like enjoying 2010 pvp...


How many BW ZvZ matches did you watch?
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 05 2013 05:00 GMT
#3093
On April 05 2013 00:06 samurai80 wrote:
Well Bomber played well but he was able to win with the same strata every time. Hope he loses next round. And I also hope HotS is not gonna be GOMTvT or TvZ all over again.


Serious?

TvT and TvZ are the best match-up by far.

Play your best
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 05 2013 05:40 GMT
#3094
Where are the VoDs located? Are they free?
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
April 05 2013 07:03 GMT
#3095
On April 05 2013 14:40 Talack wrote:
Where are the VoDs located? Are they free?

Wondering this myself.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 05 2013 07:05 GMT
#3096
On April 05 2013 14:40 Talack wrote:
Where are the VoDs located? Are they free?

GSL vods are not and have never been free.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 07:07:40
April 05 2013 07:06 GMT
#3097
On April 05 2013 16:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 14:40 Talack wrote:
Where are the VoDs located? Are they free?

GSL vods are not and have never been free.

OnGameNet streamed too.

Edit: I checked their Twitch, they have videos disabled.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 05 2013 07:08 GMT
#3098
On April 05 2013 16:06 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 16:05 Zealously wrote:
On April 05 2013 14:40 Talack wrote:
Where are the VoDs located? Are they free?

GSL vods are not and have never been free.

OnGameNet streamed too.

Edit: I checked their Twitch, they have videos disabled.

And I believe those are not free either.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 05 2013 11:29 GMT
#3099
--- Nuked ---
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
April 05 2013 12:03 GMT
#3100
On April 05 2013 12:26 Thieving Magpie wrote:
BW zvz is the worse matchup in sc and sc2....

There's literally one strategy--one. Enjoying BW zvz is like enjoying 2010 pvp...


I find bw zvz more enjoyable than all sc2 matchups beside TvT and TvZ. In bw though I only found PvP to be worse than ZvZ.
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