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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
March 18 2013 02:34 GMT
#11201
On March 18 2013 11:26 Savant.GL wrote:
Life is really fucking good you know,

I know. If he was fully focused on sc2, oh dear...
+ Show Spoiler +
DOMINATINGGG!!!!
-DotA
IN SOVIET RUSSIA ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ Table Flips you
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
March 18 2013 02:36 GMT
#11202
nice weekend for KT rolster

flash 2nd place
LoL team 1st place
byah!
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
March 18 2013 02:37 GMT
#11203
On March 18 2013 11:34 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:26 Savant.GL wrote:
Life is really fucking good you know,

I know. If he was fully focused on sc2, oh dear...
+ Show Spoiler +
DOMINATINGGG!!!!
-DotA


do you know how much practice time life gets in a day? i'm honestly curious.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
March 18 2013 02:38 GMT
#11204
On March 18 2013 11:31 Swordland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:26 Savant.GL wrote:
Life is really fucking good you know,


Im not denying he is.

But also Zergs are still strong in Hots, so after a huge domination in Lings of Liberty, zerg players, please stop the complainining...


I totally agree, I am a zerg player, I have no right to complain after the fiasco that was the zerg dominance at the end of WoL.

Yes there were good zerg players but imo zerrg was much stronger.

Hots provides entertaining games, keep it as the game is for now until more Data
Savant
Inviteme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States165 Posts
March 18 2013 02:38 GMT
#11205
koreans taking all the $$$$$ from sc2 and Leagues LOL
asdf
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
March 18 2013 02:40 GMT
#11206
On March 18 2013 11:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:07 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:57 derthy wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:51 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:28 IMHope wrote:
All the randomness that widow mines bring is great for the game. Stuff like that is what made BW a great spectator game because you never knew what would happen and it added suspense to games rather than knowing how fights would turn out before they even happened.

Perhaps that's how you feel personally. For me I despise the 'random' things in Starcraft, takes away from it as a legitimate competitive activity to a degree, for me anyway.

The guy posting about lucky/unlucky scarabs hits the nail on the head.


That's nonsense every competitive sport in the world has some luck/randomness involved. The weather, wind, bounce of a ball, the referees decision. It makes it more exciting and entertaining for the spectator. Mines and scarabs in BW were awesome. Too much randomness is obviously bad and at the moment the widow mine might need tweaking a bit but its not far off

It would be like deliberately making poor refereeing decisions in football just to spice things up a bit.

Acceptable randomness is things like pulling your overlord back just inches from that proxy pylon, or things on that basis, but that's just me.


Man can't control the weather (yet? maybe? someday? who knows). Man, however, can control proper programming in a computer game. Why accept randomness when you can fix it?


Simply because it's more entertaining. Crucially it adds tension, which is the key to all popular sports. There's a reason nobody watches chess (and i say this as a former chess player) which is probably the least random game there is.

This is balls, people don't watch football to see things like Darren Bent's infamous deflected shot off a balloon, or other freak occurrences.

It does add a bit of spice and talking points afterward though, I'll give you that.


Are penalties random ? Kinda, but overall the best goalkeeper wins the most. And yes, they are exciting as fuck when it comes to them.
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
March 18 2013 02:41 GMT
#11207
On March 18 2013 11:22 Savant.GL wrote:
Geoff and Anna I am sorry If I offended you, and anyone reading this thread.

I just really enjoyed the job you did at MLG and had a great time watching the stream

I apologise to the whole of the TL community for any offence caused, it was foolish of me to make my feelings public and put everyone in an uncomfortable position.

I hope this does not put my strategic discussion under greater scrutiny.

I love TL!!!!!!!!!!


To late , your still creepy....
I'm not the greatest , but I will be one day ...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26094 Posts
March 18 2013 02:45 GMT
#11208
On March 18 2013 11:40 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:07 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:57 derthy wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:51 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:28 IMHope wrote:
All the randomness that widow mines bring is great for the game. Stuff like that is what made BW a great spectator game because you never knew what would happen and it added suspense to games rather than knowing how fights would turn out before they even happened.

Perhaps that's how you feel personally. For me I despise the 'random' things in Starcraft, takes away from it as a legitimate competitive activity to a degree, for me anyway.

The guy posting about lucky/unlucky scarabs hits the nail on the head.


That's nonsense every competitive sport in the world has some luck/randomness involved. The weather, wind, bounce of a ball, the referees decision. It makes it more exciting and entertaining for the spectator. Mines and scarabs in BW were awesome. Too much randomness is obviously bad and at the moment the widow mine might need tweaking a bit but its not far off

It would be like deliberately making poor refereeing decisions in football just to spice things up a bit.

Acceptable randomness is things like pulling your overlord back just inches from that proxy pylon, or things on that basis, but that's just me.


Man can't control the weather (yet? maybe? someday? who knows). Man, however, can control proper programming in a computer game. Why accept randomness when you can fix it?


Simply because it's more entertaining. Crucially it adds tension, which is the key to all popular sports. There's a reason nobody watches chess (and i say this as a former chess player) which is probably the least random game there is.

This is balls, people don't watch football to see things like Darren Bent's infamous deflected shot off a balloon, or other freak occurrences.

It does add a bit of spice and talking points afterward though, I'll give you that.


Are penalties random ? Kinda, but overall the best goalkeeper wins the most. And yes, they are exciting as fuck when it comes to them.

Penalties aren't really random at all, it's a skillset I guess. A bit of guesswork and mindgames go on, but it's not 'random' as I'd see it. Random to me (as in the kind I don't want to see in SC2) would be balls that deflated in midair at random times, altering their trajectories and whatnot.

Conditions of the pitch, the weather etc are all things footballers can overcome through experience or altering their approaches, whereas say scarab duffs are something that just freakily occur and you can't legislate for at all.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
March 18 2013 02:46 GMT
#11209
It's also hilarious to see broodlords shooting broodlings at terran units, and then the mines activate and blow up everything of terran
It's a disaster for terran.
...
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
March 18 2013 02:46 GMT
#11210
On March 18 2013 11:37 theMagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:34 rice_devOurer wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:26 Savant.GL wrote:
Life is really fucking good you know,

I know. If he was fully focused on sc2, oh dear...
+ Show Spoiler +
DOMINATINGGG!!!!
-DotA


do you know how much practice time life gets in a day? i'm honestly curious.

Not much, looking at how he just bursted out of nowhere in 2012. Before that, he was just... there.
IN SOVIET RUSSIA ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ Table Flips you
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 02:49:56
March 18 2013 02:48 GMT
#11211
On March 18 2013 11:41 will216 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:22 Savant.GL wrote:
Geoff and Anna I am sorry If I offended you, and anyone reading this thread.

I just really enjoyed the job you did at MLG and had a great time watching the stream

I apologise to the whole of the TL community for any offence caused, it was foolish of me to make my feelings public and put everyone in an uncomfortable position.

I hope this does not put my strategic discussion under greater scrutiny.

I love TL!!!!!!!!!!


To late , your still creepy....


=(

it is weird because what you just said is exactly how my last "relationship" just ended,

she didn't know we were in a relationship
Savant
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 02:54:49
March 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#11212
Former prodigy beaten by another prodigy.

Makes perfect sense.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
deceptionx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States152 Posts
March 18 2013 02:54 GMT
#11213
On March 18 2013 11:48 Savant.GL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:41 will216 wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:22 Savant.GL wrote:
Geoff and Anna I am sorry If I offended you, and anyone reading this thread.

I just really enjoyed the job you did at MLG and had a great time watching the stream

I apologise to the whole of the TL community for any offence caused, it was foolish of me to make my feelings public and put everyone in an uncomfortable position.

I hope this does not put my strategic discussion under greater scrutiny.

I love TL!!!!!!!!!!


To late , your still creepy....


=(

it is weird because what you just said is exactly how my last "relationship" just ended,

she didn't know we were in a relationship


wat
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
March 18 2013 02:54 GMT
#11214
On March 18 2013 11:53 ppshchik wrote:
Former prodigy beqten by another prodigy.

Makes perfect sense.

Is this what BW was like?
IN SOVIET RUSSIA ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ Table Flips you
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
March 18 2013 02:57 GMT
#11215
is there an MLG song list thread?
kekeke
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 18 2013 02:58 GMT
#11216
On March 18 2013 11:54 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:53 ppshchik wrote:
Former prodigy beqten by another prodigy.

Makes perfect sense.

Is this what BW was like?


yep. and to be honest, tbls held the top of bw for way too long. the scene stagnated towards the last few years with very few new talent breaking through. Life is the beginning of the next generation
The Notorious Winkles
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
March 18 2013 02:58 GMT
#11217
On March 18 2013 11:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:40 Godwrath wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:07 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:57 derthy wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:51 yarders wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:28 IMHope wrote:
All the randomness that widow mines bring is great for the game. Stuff like that is what made BW a great spectator game because you never knew what would happen and it added suspense to games rather than knowing how fights would turn out before they even happened.

Perhaps that's how you feel personally. For me I despise the 'random' things in Starcraft, takes away from it as a legitimate competitive activity to a degree, for me anyway.

The guy posting about lucky/unlucky scarabs hits the nail on the head.


That's nonsense every competitive sport in the world has some luck/randomness involved. The weather, wind, bounce of a ball, the referees decision. It makes it more exciting and entertaining for the spectator. Mines and scarabs in BW were awesome. Too much randomness is obviously bad and at the moment the widow mine might need tweaking a bit but its not far off

It would be like deliberately making poor refereeing decisions in football just to spice things up a bit.

Acceptable randomness is things like pulling your overlord back just inches from that proxy pylon, or things on that basis, but that's just me.


Man can't control the weather (yet? maybe? someday? who knows). Man, however, can control proper programming in a computer game. Why accept randomness when you can fix it?


Simply because it's more entertaining. Crucially it adds tension, which is the key to all popular sports. There's a reason nobody watches chess (and i say this as a former chess player) which is probably the least random game there is.

This is balls, people don't watch football to see things like Darren Bent's infamous deflected shot off a balloon, or other freak occurrences.

It does add a bit of spice and talking points afterward though, I'll give you that.


Are penalties random ? Kinda, but overall the best goalkeeper wins the most. And yes, they are exciting as fuck when it comes to them.

Penalties aren't really random at all, it's a skillset I guess. A bit of guesswork and mindgames go on, but it's not 'random' as I'd see it. Random to me (as in the kind I don't want to see in SC2) would be balls that deflated in midair at random times, altering their trajectories and whatnot.

Conditions of the pitch, the weather etc are all things footballers can overcome through experience or altering their approaches, whereas say scarab duffs are something that just freakily occur and you can't legislate for at all.


I said kinda, and yes they are kinda random. They are a gamble since the goalkeeper has to predict where the player is going to shoot before he jumps in that direction, hence why most penalties end in goal. Experience and reflexes can overcome some, but you can't stop most penalties, even the ones just shot to the middle with no thought/mindgame behind it.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
March 18 2013 02:59 GMT
#11218
On March 18 2013 11:54 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:53 ppshchik wrote:
Former prodigy beqten by another prodigy.

Makes perfect sense.

Is this what BW was like?


its one of the things that happens.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 03:03:36
March 18 2013 03:01 GMT
#11219
On March 18 2013 11:48 Savant.GL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:41 will216 wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:22 Savant.GL wrote:
Geoff and Anna I am sorry If I offended you, and anyone reading this thread.

I just really enjoyed the job you did at MLG and had a great time watching the stream

I apologise to the whole of the TL community for any offence caused, it was foolish of me to make my feelings public and put everyone in an uncomfortable position.

I hope this does not put my strategic discussion under greater scrutiny.

I love TL!!!!!!!!!!


To late , your still creepy....


=(

it is weird because what you just said is exactly how my last "relationship" just ended,

she didn't know we were in a relationship

And it was probably hard to understand her through the duct tape.

JK

BTW great MLG all the way. So many good matches, so many styles on display. So much creative play. HOTS is as big an improvement as BW was to Sc1!
:)
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
March 18 2013 03:03 GMT
#11220
On March 18 2013 11:57 norterrible wrote:
is there an MLG song list thread?


I'm looking as well...
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
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