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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 19 2013 15:13 GMT
#11401
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 19 2013 15:36 GMT
#11402
On March 19 2013 23:45 quien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 22:35 ZenithM wrote:
On March 19 2013 06:48 tuho12345 wrote:
On March 19 2013 02:30 riotjune wrote:
I don't think Flash realized how much of a hard counter mass banes are to mass rines. Can't run over your opponents with just macro anymore, have to think about those unit compositions...

MKP mass marines to counter mass banelings before it was cool lol. Go watch MKP vs Kyrix

Flash doesn't have MKP's marine micro yet :/
He's God, not the King of Marines.



if u watch flash vs jaedong games in BW i think you change your mind, rine micro in BW is the hardest micro ever... and flash was a monster... not the King but the God of Marines.

Don't know what happened to flash in this final, i think he could have won that. But that Life dude is really awesome. Better luck next time master. I know he will have an answer soon for that kind of play. sorry for my bad english.

The King of Marines is closer to his subjects, he embraces their fate, lives when they live and dies when they die, he's not one to be called God, immortal and almighty, and who only watches them from above.
Marines don't worship the King. He commands, and they follow.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 15:44:56
March 19 2013 15:42 GMT
#11403
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro



I don't mean to rag too hard here but it seems like you might be a bit biased in "great vs good" as all of your great series are TvZ. Many people would consider MVP vs Squirtle Great. IMO, best finals of last year. Plenty also would consider DRG vs Genius great. It proves your point further yes, but just wanted to say, MVP vs Squirtle? GREAT finals.

Edit: Looks like it's been said already. I should read before I post.

Seriously, that hold on game 6? The vortex in game 5? Both amazing. (I could have mixed up which game was which). The 11/11 rax was the perfect way to end it IMO.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27445 Posts
March 19 2013 16:23 GMT
#11404
A great series to me really doesn't need each individual game to be great, just to cumulatively become awesome.

MVP v Squirtle is one of those, lot of so-so games, then one of THE moments of WoL with the Battlecruiser/Archon toilet combo. So sick, so good
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
March 19 2013 16:27 GMT
#11405
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro
]

Everyone tells you are biased, so you are. Deal with it. MVP vs Squirtle were great finals, u could argue DRG vs Genius for that aswell.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 16:35:08
March 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#11406
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


Husky TotalBiscuit good synergy? What? Since when is yelling play by plays at the same time great synergy?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 19 2013 17:03 GMT
#11407
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


People give Husky alot of hate..but the guy brought a ton of people into SC2+TL (including me). Sure i dont watch his videos now, but i definitely think he is an important guy in the industry. I also like his casting
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 02:38:44
March 20 2013 02:37 GMT
#11408
--- Nuked ---
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
March 20 2013 12:39 GMT
#11409
On March 20 2013 11:37 monkybone wrote:
Ahh, finally got around to watching the vods, and I must say it was REALLY refreshing to see life win after all the balance whine in this thread.

It proves that the balance is still unclear, and we must wait a bit more. Neither speed medievacs nor mines seemed to have any effect on life's muta ling baneling. I'm happy to see that the pure raw skill of life was enough to take the win. Flash is a mechanical beast, but he has flaws and life exploited them.

Leenock was clearly underperforming, he has not enough experience yet. His skill is not that significantly below life. Just wait a bit on that. The other Zergs can be ignored for obvious reasons. The overall zerg winrate in this tournament was to be expected.

Also MC clearly showed that his strategic mindset is vastly superior to the other protosses who have clearly not made the transition to HotS yet. That was beautifully illustrated by partings frustrated "super imba gg". Apart from life, MC was the most interesting storyline here. His new builds easily dealt with the "OP".


i was going to write the exact same after finishing the vods.
thanks for saving me some time and lets hope that bliz wont listen to the balance whiners and nerf terran too hard as they did in wol.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 14:00:14
March 20 2013 13:49 GMT
#11410
On March 20 2013 11:37 monkybone wrote:
Ahh, finally got around to watching the vods, and I must say it was REALLY refreshing to see life win after all the balance whine in this thread.

It proves that the balance is still unclear, and we must wait a bit more. Neither speed medievacs nor mines seemed to have any effect on life's muta ling baneling. I'm happy to see that the pure raw skill of life was enough to take the win. Flash is a mechanical beast, but he has flaws and life exploited them.

Leenock was clearly underperforming, he has not enough experience yet. His skill is not that significantly below life. Just wait a bit on that. The other Zergs can be ignored for obvious reasons. The overall zerg winrate in this tournament was to be expected.

Also MC clearly showed that his strategic mindset is vastly superior to the other protosses who have clearly not made the transition to HotS yet. That was beautifully illustrated by partings frustrated "super imba gg". Apart from life, MC was the most interesting storyline here. His new builds easily dealt with the "OP".


Zerg is always the harder race to master, it needs time, and protoss is the easiest to master, but not much to improve, except experience. Zerg players will improve significantly over next couple months. And won't expect protoss to improve too much during the same period, and terran will always be there, but still feels that they will fell hard in TvZ once zerg players improve. The thing which makes zerg strong is the number of larva, not some so called imba units.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#11411
On March 20 2013 02:03 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


People give Husky alot of hate..but the guy brought a ton of people into SC2+TL (including me). Sure i dont watch his videos now, but i definitely think he is an important guy in the industry. I also like his casting


Same here . I was actually boycotting SC2 before I saw him casting QXC against Huk.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 20:19:53
March 20 2013 20:18 GMT
#11412
On March 19 2013 02:20 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 01:55 WigglingSquid wrote:
Are there HD vods for Flash vs Innovation game 2? The only ones listed on MLG are low quality.


Thinking the same thing...net cut out right before the Finals, and I was raging so hard I couldn't sleep properly knowing the finals were going on! Then I pop on the MLG website for the VODS and they are all terrible quality...

edit/ nvm answered above

The MLG website is using adaptive streaming (i.e. automatic quality switching). The VODs may start at a low quality, but if the bandwidth between you and their servers is high enough, then it will get better quickly. When I watched the finals earlier today, I was at first dismayed at the sight of the pixel soup, but after half a minute it had gone up to a very decent quality that looked like 540p or so.
skaffaNL
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands55 Posts
March 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#11413
MC is so funny haha

saying protos needs micro, best joke I ever heard :D
It's getting too hot!
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
March 29 2013 07:49 GMT
#11414
If anyone can send a replay pack i will litteraly pay you 100 dollars. Download link in thread or PM i dont care i just want them really badly...

+ Show Spoiler +
no... not the VODs obviously...
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