• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:19
CEST 14:19
KST 21:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !14Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1682 users

[MLG] Day 3 Winter Championship - Page 571

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 569 570 571
The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 19 2013 15:13 GMT
#11401
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 19 2013 15:36 GMT
#11402
On March 19 2013 23:45 quien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 22:35 ZenithM wrote:
On March 19 2013 06:48 tuho12345 wrote:
On March 19 2013 02:30 riotjune wrote:
I don't think Flash realized how much of a hard counter mass banes are to mass rines. Can't run over your opponents with just macro anymore, have to think about those unit compositions...

MKP mass marines to counter mass banelings before it was cool lol. Go watch MKP vs Kyrix

Flash doesn't have MKP's marine micro yet :/
He's God, not the King of Marines.



if u watch flash vs jaedong games in BW i think you change your mind, rine micro in BW is the hardest micro ever... and flash was a monster... not the King but the God of Marines.

Don't know what happened to flash in this final, i think he could have won that. But that Life dude is really awesome. Better luck next time master. I know he will have an answer soon for that kind of play. sorry for my bad english.

The King of Marines is closer to his subjects, he embraces their fate, lives when they live and dies when they die, he's not one to be called God, immortal and almighty, and who only watches them from above.
Marines don't worship the King. He commands, and they follow.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 15:44:56
March 19 2013 15:42 GMT
#11403
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro



I don't mean to rag too hard here but it seems like you might be a bit biased in "great vs good" as all of your great series are TvZ. Many people would consider MVP vs Squirtle Great. IMO, best finals of last year. Plenty also would consider DRG vs Genius great. It proves your point further yes, but just wanted to say, MVP vs Squirtle? GREAT finals.

Edit: Looks like it's been said already. I should read before I post.

Seriously, that hold on game 6? The vortex in game 5? Both amazing. (I could have mixed up which game was which). The 11/11 rax was the perfect way to end it IMO.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
March 19 2013 16:23 GMT
#11404
A great series to me really doesn't need each individual game to be great, just to cumulatively become awesome.

MVP v Squirtle is one of those, lot of so-so games, then one of THE moments of WoL with the Battlecruiser/Archon toilet combo. So sick, so good
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
March 19 2013 16:27 GMT
#11405
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro
]

Everyone tells you are biased, so you are. Deal with it. MVP vs Squirtle were great finals, u could argue DRG vs Genius for that aswell.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 16:35:08
March 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#11406
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


Husky TotalBiscuit good synergy? What? Since when is yelling play by plays at the same time great synergy?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 19 2013 17:03 GMT
#11407
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


People give Husky alot of hate..but the guy brought a ton of people into SC2+TL (including me). Sure i dont watch his videos now, but i definitely think he is an important guy in the industry. I also like his casting
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 02:38:44
March 20 2013 02:37 GMT
#11408
--- Nuked ---
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
March 20 2013 12:39 GMT
#11409
On March 20 2013 11:37 monkybone wrote:
Ahh, finally got around to watching the vods, and I must say it was REALLY refreshing to see life win after all the balance whine in this thread.

It proves that the balance is still unclear, and we must wait a bit more. Neither speed medievacs nor mines seemed to have any effect on life's muta ling baneling. I'm happy to see that the pure raw skill of life was enough to take the win. Flash is a mechanical beast, but he has flaws and life exploited them.

Leenock was clearly underperforming, he has not enough experience yet. His skill is not that significantly below life. Just wait a bit on that. The other Zergs can be ignored for obvious reasons. The overall zerg winrate in this tournament was to be expected.

Also MC clearly showed that his strategic mindset is vastly superior to the other protosses who have clearly not made the transition to HotS yet. That was beautifully illustrated by partings frustrated "super imba gg". Apart from life, MC was the most interesting storyline here. His new builds easily dealt with the "OP".


i was going to write the exact same after finishing the vods.
thanks for saving me some time and lets hope that bliz wont listen to the balance whiners and nerf terran too hard as they did in wol.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 14:00:14
March 20 2013 13:49 GMT
#11410
On March 20 2013 11:37 monkybone wrote:
Ahh, finally got around to watching the vods, and I must say it was REALLY refreshing to see life win after all the balance whine in this thread.

It proves that the balance is still unclear, and we must wait a bit more. Neither speed medievacs nor mines seemed to have any effect on life's muta ling baneling. I'm happy to see that the pure raw skill of life was enough to take the win. Flash is a mechanical beast, but he has flaws and life exploited them.

Leenock was clearly underperforming, he has not enough experience yet. His skill is not that significantly below life. Just wait a bit on that. The other Zergs can be ignored for obvious reasons. The overall zerg winrate in this tournament was to be expected.

Also MC clearly showed that his strategic mindset is vastly superior to the other protosses who have clearly not made the transition to HotS yet. That was beautifully illustrated by partings frustrated "super imba gg". Apart from life, MC was the most interesting storyline here. His new builds easily dealt with the "OP".


Zerg is always the harder race to master, it needs time, and protoss is the easiest to master, but not much to improve, except experience. Zerg players will improve significantly over next couple months. And won't expect protoss to improve too much during the same period, and terran will always be there, but still feels that they will fell hard in TvZ once zerg players improve. The thing which makes zerg strong is the number of larva, not some so called imba units.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#11411
On March 20 2013 02:03 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 00:13 TigerKarl wrote:
I'd never have thought to say this, but i really liked Huskys casting this event. He produced good synergy with Total Biscuit, which is another really weird thing. I think the strong caster performances were a big reason, why this event attracted and kept so many viewers, despite the foreigner performances. I hope the quality of broadcasting will go up even more, but this MLG is a strong contender for best tournament of the year already.


People give Husky alot of hate..but the guy brought a ton of people into SC2+TL (including me). Sure i dont watch his videos now, but i definitely think he is an important guy in the industry. I also like his casting


Same here . I was actually boycotting SC2 before I saw him casting QXC against Huk.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 20:19:53
March 20 2013 20:18 GMT
#11412
On March 19 2013 02:20 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 01:55 WigglingSquid wrote:
Are there HD vods for Flash vs Innovation game 2? The only ones listed on MLG are low quality.


Thinking the same thing...net cut out right before the Finals, and I was raging so hard I couldn't sleep properly knowing the finals were going on! Then I pop on the MLG website for the VODS and they are all terrible quality...

edit/ nvm answered above

The MLG website is using adaptive streaming (i.e. automatic quality switching). The VODs may start at a low quality, but if the bandwidth between you and their servers is high enough, then it will get better quickly. When I watched the finals earlier today, I was at first dismayed at the sight of the pixel soup, but after half a minute it had gone up to a very decent quality that looked like 540p or so.
skaffaNL
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands55 Posts
March 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#11413
MC is so funny haha

saying protos needs micro, best joke I ever heard :D
It's getting too hot!
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
March 29 2013 07:49 GMT
#11414
If anyone can send a replay pack i will litteraly pay you 100 dollars. Download link in thread or PM i dont care i just want them really badly...

+ Show Spoiler +
no... not the VODs obviously...
Legalize young players IEM! Accept Maru!
Prev 1 569 570 571
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#87
IntoTheiNu 1174
WardiTV592
OGKoka 339
Rex102
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko394
OGKoka 339
sc2solar 151
ProTech121
Rex 102
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 11572
Bisu 1844
Horang2 1486
Jaedong 807
Hyuk 537
EffOrt 465
ggaemo 408
Mini 299
BeSt 256
firebathero 208
[ Show more ]
Light 201
Rush 179
Soulkey 146
Pusan 143
ToSsGirL 114
Zeus 108
Snow 100
Mong 76
Hyun 72
ZerO 67
Sharp 55
NaDa 48
hero 48
scan(afreeca) 47
[sc1f]eonzerg 47
Sexy 36
Backho 36
Barracks 27
soO 26
SilentControl 24
Movie 24
sorry 20
910 19
Sacsri 18
Icarus 16
GoRush 15
JulyZerg 12
Noble 9
zelot 7
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
Gorgc4710
XcaliburYe60
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2701
byalli386
allub249
markeloff165
Other Games
singsing2007
B2W.Neo734
crisheroes252
Pyrionflax240
Happy138
monkeys_forever116
hiko102
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1153
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 806
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 79
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5899
Other Games
• WagamamaTV215
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 41m
Replay Cast
11h 41m
The PondCast
21h 41m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 41m
GSL
1d 21h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.