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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
March 18 2013 21:48 GMT
#11381
On March 19 2013 02:30 riotjune wrote:
I don't think Flash realized how much of a hard counter mass banes are to mass rines. Can't run over your opponents with just macro anymore, have to think about those unit compositions...

MKP mass marines to counter mass banelings before it was cool lol. Go watch MKP vs Kyrix
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 22:09:26
March 18 2013 22:08 GMT
#11382
Oh my god that was GSL Open 1 or 2 right? I remember that game, feels like it was ages ago Everyone was talking about marine splitting for a week.
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
March 18 2013 22:18 GMT
#11383
On March 19 2013 03:55 snakeeyez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 03:37 KuroYami wrote:
[B]On March 19 2013 00:20 TimENT
As for the tournament: Innovation really blew my mind in this tournament. I don't think he made a single mistake vs Leenock or Rain. His second game vs Flash was the most amazing thing I've seen in SC2. People really need to pay attention to how perfectly he played that game. And I mean PERFECT. I also think he was nervous vs Flash which is why he lost his tanks in game 3 and lost the medivac in game 4. I honestly believe if he overcame his nerves he could have beaten Flash 3-0 and Life 4-0. His 9 games prior to game 1 vs Flash he played the most flawless SC2 I think we have ever seen.

I think after seeing the gsl and now mlg innovation series, innovation is the single strongest Terran player in the world right now. His play in his gsl series was probably the most sophisticated play i have ever seen in sc2.


I heard innovation had one of the highest win rates on the korean ladder. I would agree though even though innovation lost to flash I think innovation is clearly one of the best terrans right now I think as good as mvp or say flash. I wonder how he would have done verse life in the final


Agreed, I feel like innovation would do better against Life since his play is quite adaptive just like Life. It would be a much closer nail biting match
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
March 18 2013 23:37 GMT
#11384
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason
We talkin about PRACTICE
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 19 2013 02:47 GMT
#11385
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UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
March 19 2013 02:55 GMT
#11386
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro


logged in to say: mvp vs Squirtle = great
Gogo Grubby.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 19 2013 03:00 GMT
#11387
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 19 2013 03:13 GMT
#11388
On March 19 2013 12:00 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:55 UnholyRai wrote:
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro


logged in to say: mvp vs Squirtle = great

Those games were all mediocre. Even the game with the vortex. It was like twenty minutes of no action and turtling then it ended. Game 7 was the only legitimately good game and even that one wasn't special.


you call mvp vs life great and mvp vs squirtle good? umm...can't agree with that. mvp vs life was can mvp do enough economic damage with hellions to not have his mech push stopped by bl/infestor with the timing for 7 games.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 19 2013 03:31 GMT
#11389
mvp life and drg mma were both mostly mediocre games, as was mvp squirtle to be honest. there were a few good ones that made it memorable, though
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#11390
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro

MVP vs Squirtle is the best GSL final bro
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
March 19 2013 07:29 GMT
#11391
On March 19 2013 11:47 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 08:37 mprs wrote:
On March 19 2013 01:23 blackone wrote:
That's the tough part of single elim. You can be the second best player, if you meet the best one in the first round, you have the same result as the worst player. A single elimination tournament doesn't really say a lot about anyone who didn't win it all.


With a decent seeding system, this should be alleviated. Not to mention that there are so many good players to have in your tournament, the chance of having shitty finals is pretty low*



* GSL not applicable for whatever strange reason

GSL has had many great finals

Great
Jjakji vs Leenock
DRG vs MMA
Life vs Mvp

Good
DRG vs Genius
Mvp vs Squirtle
Sniper vs Hyun
Life vs Parting
Symbol vs Roro


Great
Mvp vs. MarineKing
Mvp vs. MarineKing (again)
Mvp vs. TOP
Mvp vs. Squirtle

Decent (the saving grace is that Mvp was in the finals)
Mvp vs. MMA
Mvp vs. Life

Meh
The Rest

LOL. Just my Mvp-bias here
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 08:49:38
March 19 2013 08:47 GMT
#11392
The best games so far are.

Jiakji vs Leenock( The game on Taldarim Altar)
DRG vs MMA( Only the last game on Shakuras Plateau)
MMA vs Gumiho(Everyone should know this sick TvT)
sC vs Nestea.

Others are all either decent or meh.

All the best games are either TvT or TvZ.
Play your best
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#11393
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 19 2013 11:57 GMT
#11394
On March 19 2013 06:17 opterown wrote:
not releasing replays means that they can protect pro builds, which is probably more important than random masters players trying them out


There's vods to every single map played, what are you talking about

The reason for not releasing replays has nothing to do with protecting builds, for a long time now
Rui.S
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada92 Posts
March 19 2013 13:03 GMT
#11395
Mvp vs life really wasn't that good. It was at the height of tvz balance issues and both players made a toon of mistakes
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 13:35:36
March 19 2013 13:35 GMT
#11396
On March 19 2013 06:48 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 02:30 riotjune wrote:
I don't think Flash realized how much of a hard counter mass banes are to mass rines. Can't run over your opponents with just macro anymore, have to think about those unit compositions...

MKP mass marines to counter mass banelings before it was cool lol. Go watch MKP vs Kyrix

Flash doesn't have MKP's marine micro yet :/
He's God, not the King of Marines.
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
March 19 2013 14:31 GMT
#11397
need mlg replays pack
wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
March 19 2013 14:39 GMT
#11398
So........any info on the next MLG....? :/
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 19 2013 14:45 GMT
#11399
On March 19 2013 22:35 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 06:48 tuho12345 wrote:
On March 19 2013 02:30 riotjune wrote:
I don't think Flash realized how much of a hard counter mass banes are to mass rines. Can't run over your opponents with just macro anymore, have to think about those unit compositions...

MKP mass marines to counter mass banelings before it was cool lol. Go watch MKP vs Kyrix

Flash doesn't have MKP's marine micro yet :/
He's God, not the King of Marines.



if u watch flash vs jaedong games in BW i think you change your mind, rine micro in BW is the hardest micro ever... and flash was a monster... not the King but the God of Marines.

Don't know what happened to flash in this final, i think he could have won that. But that Life dude is really awesome. Better luck next time master. I know he will have an answer soon for that kind of play. sorry for my bad english.
This is the way
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
March 19 2013 15:07 GMT
#11400
Will MLG upload the VODs and replays? Only saw a few selected VODs in their youtube page.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
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