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[MLG] Idra vs Minigun - Dallas Qualifier Day 23 - Page 11

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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 03 2013 22:37 GMT
#201
On March 04 2013 07:36 ssg wrote:
Im a terran, but even that game made me cry for zerg. Wow.

Me too. The failed two base all in with recall into 15 minute two base all in floating tons of money is kind of silly. No flank, but FF and colossus against roach hydra is still deadly.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 22:38:10
March 03 2013 22:37 GMT
#202
On March 04 2013 07:37 Ghanburighan wrote:
This is so silly. But it's IdrA so the world will watch.

IdrA might be making a point to David Kim, trying to get P nerfed at release.


Might help if he played worth a shit and didn't leave the game up 20 supply.
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#203
On March 04 2013 07:36 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:34 KiWiKaKi wrote:
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


^

Admittedly though, the recall ability in PvZ is rather rage inducing in and of itself.


Its all-in. But not if it doesn't go your way, then you simply recall back.
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pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#204
On March 04 2013 07:36 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:34 KiWiKaKi wrote:
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


^

Admittedly though, the recall ability in PvZ is rather rage inducing in and of itself.


Agreed -- there's basically zero risk to a protoss player to push out against a zerg. If your sentries run out of energy, no problem! Just recall home
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#205
On March 04 2013 07:37 sitromit wrote:
Just think about how bad Minigun was with his control that game, and imagine that Forcefield, Time Warp, Recall combination in the hands of a Protoss who's actually good, like Parting.

Artosis was talking about that recently. He sai dhe couldn't wait to see how devastating PartinG's immortal sentry all in will be with time warps
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#206
On March 04 2013 07:35 Qikz wrote:
Why the heck did idra just give up his contain for no reason?

I know, I'll run into my own bases choke points against collosus when I could have attacked as he left his base!

Also calling that an all-in is laughable as he stopped probe production at saturation on his bases, why make more probes than you need if you plan to expand later if your attack fails? He timing attacked, not all ind. You have recall now so not every protoss attack is an all in.


why do you speak when you have no clue? :/ it was an allin in every sense of the word
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butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#207
Is there a single reason why protoss shouldn't make timing attacks now in HotS with the recall ability? There is 0% chance it's going to fail and the zerg has to react in case it's the real deal. Weird.
Topzerg
Profile Joined November 2012
64 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#208
I'm making a point to David Kim... I used to pay for every events in HD, now I only watch free stuff and never make time for it, it fits or I don't watch. I'd rather see this game die than stay in this stupid deathball state.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#209
On March 04 2013 07:37 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
imagine if this was idra vs. cruncher. the drama alone would be enough


oh god I'd kill to see that again in HotS.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#210
Didn't EG get IdrA a sports psychologist?

Minigun did a lot of things wrong though, these losses reflect more on IdrA than on Minigun.
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HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#211
haha Idra....getting completely outplayed by someone you consider "lesser than you." Idra....if you reduce your ego you might be able to stand a chance against low class foreigners :D

Minigun playing like a pro
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#212
On March 04 2013 07:36 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:34 KiWiKaKi wrote:
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


^

Admittedly though, the recall ability in PvZ is rather rage inducing in and of itself.


It's almost ludicrous. It allows to make terrible positioning mistakes and come out unscathed. They already have plenty of space control spells with FF and time warp but the recall allows them to mess up both of those spells and still be fine.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
March 03 2013 22:38 GMT
#213
On March 04 2013 07:11 Taipoka wrote:
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On March 04 2013 07:10 Shinta) wrote:
This new MLG format makes me cry. Who the heck needs MLG to be played out like this?
All I see is opportunity taken away from the masses and practice taken away from top pros.

Sure, pros want to make more money, but if you had KeSPA pros traveling to make a cheap buck they also wouldn't have been as good as they were.

Try building your own scene's player's careers rather than providing a decent show to watch that doesn't benefit anyone in eSports except the winner.

This isn't MLG's fault and even though I'm bashing its not so straight forward. This is just eSports not moving in the right direction.


Maybe its just this one because of the Hots transition.
Try to think about this point of view.

From that point of view what in saying is amplified.
You have all these players who were ready to debut their HotS skills against the WoL pros who maybe haven't trained enough or who haven't had as much success with HotS. These are opportunities for teams to look at new HotS player and could help build new sc2 careers.

The only way to look at this tournament and make sense of it is from a business point of view. MLG gets more viewers this way, and eSports dies a little. (Not to be taken as is eSports is #DYING, because it's not).
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#214
On March 04 2013 07:37 Taipoka wrote:
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On March 04 2013 07:35 GunSec wrote:
14k viewers now :D

Wow. Was not paying attention to this.
Kinda impressive.
That´s just because of idra?


I'm going to say It's mostly because currently this is the only place you can watch new HotS content until release now that the beta is down. That and It's a sunday in NA with two popular NA players playing.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#215
The way minigun executed that, it did seem like there's no answer to all that (as a protoss I even sometimes see FFs and get annoyed, lack of micro or whatever). But maybe if idra didn't try to use that composition and remain passive for so long lol :S

Grrr, I want to see some hots units! :D
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12032 Posts
March 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#216
On March 04 2013 07:37 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:36 ssg wrote:
Im a terran, but even that game made me cry for zerg. Wow.

Me too. The failed two base all in with recall into 15 minute two base all in floating tons of money is kind of silly. No flank, but FF and colossus against roach hydra is still deadly.


It wasn't an all in, it was a timing attack that forced units and he got away and started making probes again.

There's no point making more probes than your bases can handle if you know you won't be expanding super fast.

There are such things as 2 base attacks which are not all in. Not every game of Starcraft where one person has a later 3rd base is an all in. Recall makes Toss able to attack and still get away without having to lose everything. That's good for the game.

Idra had tons of units which he did nothing with. He could have contained toss, but nope he ran back to his bases for no reason.
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xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
March 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#217
On March 04 2013 07:36 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:34 KiWiKaKi wrote:
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


^

Admittedly though, the recall ability in PvZ is rather rage inducing in and of itself.


Everything that makes Idra rage is good for the scene!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 03 2013 22:40 GMT
#218
On March 04 2013 07:37 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:35 Qikz wrote:
Why the heck did idra just give up his contain for no reason?

I know, I'll run into my own bases choke points against collosus when I could have attacked as he left his base!

Also calling that an all-in is laughable as he stopped probe production at saturation on his bases, why make more probes than you need if you plan to expand later if your attack fails? He timing attacked, not all ind. You have recall now so not every protoss attack is an all in.


I don't think Idra ever scouted the Colossus he never built a single corruptor.


The spire was building when the attack hit.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
March 03 2013 22:40 GMT
#219
IdrA had a huge lead right after that attack on the third was swatted away, but he failed to capitalize on the moving out of Minigun and let him get in a perfect position. Doesn't help that IdrA decided to take on the Protoss army straight on with Roach/Hydra against three Colossi, which nullifies Hydras.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 03 2013 22:40 GMT
#220
On March 04 2013 07:37 sitromit wrote:
Just think about how bad Minigun was with his control that game, and imagine that Forcefield, Time Warp, Recall combination in the hands of a Protoss who's actually good, like Parting.


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