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On March 05 2013 08:10 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 03:41 playa wrote:On March 05 2013 03:14 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 02:50 playa wrote:
I don't get how minigun is so good. The breakfast of champions is w/ever CJ is eating. No RTS background and still way better than any former BW toss player (pretend Mana isn't playing)? It's been a while since you had to wonder where exactly a non Korean's ceiling is at. Guy is already in everyone's attic. He's too underrated. If someone knows why he can't be as good as any Korean toss player, let me know. I'm curious. All hail Chad bleeping Jones. MaNa played a bit of bw for ESC and Mouz. Also Socke, Fraer, White-Ra did and all of them are (or maybe were, in Ra´s case, idk much about his current shape) ahead of Minigun. You failed at pretending. Mana was one of the best BW toss players, if not the best. I wasn't aware that Socke played BW. German insight at its finest. I'm aware of Fraer from BW, and I was aware of his ELO in SC 2. I haven't seen many of his games, if any, in SC 2. There's always some exceptions, I guess. I was wanting to just say North America, but that's too easy: where's the fun without debate? I went with a tiny stretch. White-ra? He's a fan favorite for good reason, but there's no way you could get me to bet on white-ra over minigun today, let alone in the future. All things considered, I just don't see a more impressive player. With zerg seemingly being taken down a notch in HotS and minigun gaining even more RTS experience, you'd have to figure if anyone "breaks out" and starts winning a lot of stuff, it should be him. Hardly anyone really seems to be on his level, potential wise. If you're new to a fighting genre and you're already at someone's level in a short amount of time, it doesn't bode well for the other guy, unless it appears you have peaked. To me it just seems like he's more of a player that's still improving in comparison to others. I failed at english, I confused pretend with assume for some reason. Fraer may not be that often seen in premier events, but in the more prestigious online events like RSL or EGMC he is taking good wins relatively regularly, for example + Show Spoiler +eliminated aLive last week in RSL . White-Ra has significantly improved in HotS again, he barely lost against Hyun (4:5) a few days ago, I honestly would doubt Minigun would be able to keep it that close. Maybe I´m underestimating Minigun here, but I remember that he got pretty hyped before IEM Cologne as well and we know, what happened there.
I was just giving you grief/a hard time. I'll be on the lookout for Fraer's games. I've always felt there were a lot of Europeans, especially those in Russia or close proximity to it, that didn't get nearly enough attention from the rest of the scene. Pomi, for example, always struck me as the "Russian version of Nony." I'm a fan of Mana. When it comes to HotS and White-ra, you do perhaps have to factor in that White-ra seemed to be one of the first pro players to put in a lot of HotS games. Few pros probably have his experience, or more, in HotS.
I think Minigun has done something that no one else would really do, if you exchange gaming backgrounds. I don't see White-ra coming close to first in the NA ladder without all of that RTS background. In fact, I'd be surprised if he could do it now. His mechanics just aren't that great for a pro, and I haven't seen strategies that more than make up for it.
I'm not exactly a minigun expert, so I could be wrong, but those are my opinions at least. But, I do know I watched a youtube video the other day, that was minigun vs skt_rain. This was HotS, and minigun won. Rain, was one of the top players on the HotS ladder and obviously considered to be one of the best players in the world.
What makes his potential so intriguing is that he is not all-in'ing, and even if he does, he's not a "1 trick pony." He beat Rain in a macro game. It's easy to get freebie all-in wins when a game is new and people are prone to errors and your whole army is waiting outside their base to knock their teeth in. Anyone can do that. That's not a lasting style. Minigun seems to be really good at mixing it up and having the ability to keep players honest, given his skill to execute any given strat.
Anyways, I guess I should be posting in a fanclub thread or something. Fans going to be fans.
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On March 05 2013 08:10 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 03:41 playa wrote:On March 05 2013 03:14 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 02:50 playa wrote:
I don't get how minigun is so good. The breakfast of champions is w/ever CJ is eating. No RTS background and still way better than any former BW toss player (pretend Mana isn't playing)? It's been a while since you had to wonder where exactly a non Korean's ceiling is at. Guy is already in everyone's attic. He's too underrated. If someone knows why he can't be as good as any Korean toss player, let me know. I'm curious. All hail Chad bleeping Jones. MaNa played a bit of bw for ESC and Mouz. Also Socke, Fraer, White-Ra did and all of them are (or maybe were, in Ra´s case, idk much about his current shape) ahead of Minigun. You failed at pretending. Mana was one of the best BW toss players, if not the best. I wasn't aware that Socke played BW. German insight at its finest. I'm aware of Fraer from BW, and I was aware of his ELO in SC 2. I haven't seen many of his games, if any, in SC 2. There's always some exceptions, I guess. I was wanting to just say North America, but that's too easy: where's the fun without debate? I went with a tiny stretch. White-ra? He's a fan favorite for good reason, but there's no way you could get me to bet on white-ra over minigun today, let alone in the future. All things considered, I just don't see a more impressive player. With zerg seemingly being taken down a notch in HotS and minigun gaining even more RTS experience, you'd have to figure if anyone "breaks out" and starts winning a lot of stuff, it should be him. Hardly anyone really seems to be on his level, potential wise. If you're new to a fighting genre and you're already at someone's level in a short amount of time, it doesn't bode well for the other guy, unless it appears you have peaked. To me it just seems like he's more of a player that's still improving in comparison to others. I failed at english, I confused pretend with assume for some reason. Fraer may not be that often seen in premier events, but in the more prestigious online events like RSL or EGMC he is taking good wins relatively regularly, for example + Show Spoiler +eliminated aLive last week in RSL . White-Ra has significantly improved in HotS again, he barely lost against Hyun (4:5) a few days ago, I honestly would doubt Minigun would be able to keep it that close. Maybe I´m underestimating Minigun here, but I remember that he got pretty hyped before IEM Cologne as well and we know, what happened there.
I don't really like making excuses for sucking, but this was also when my disease was horribly not in control and I 100% should not have been traveling. The entire way there/and at the hotel before I played I was throwing up I was in so much pain/at the event. It was also my first time ever playing on stage which is pretty nerve racking.
This game is more than skill. It's about luck ( not saying I'm unlucky, just saying it's a part of winning/losing), ingame skill, and your ability to control your anxiety. I'm fucking horrible at #3. XD
I hope I can at least take a few games off life though, we shall see.
Thanks for all the support from everyone, even though I can't respond to you all I do read your comments and appreciate it.
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you're borderline ridiculous with all this lol
Minigun got raped by Scarlett 3-0 like a week ago, what about that?
gm players can take games off each other, that's nothing new. minigun beating idra isn't new wither.
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On March 05 2013 09:03 ROOTMinigun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 08:10 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 03:41 playa wrote:On March 05 2013 03:14 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 02:50 playa wrote:
I don't get how minigun is so good. The breakfast of champions is w/ever CJ is eating. No RTS background and still way better than any former BW toss player (pretend Mana isn't playing)? It's been a while since you had to wonder where exactly a non Korean's ceiling is at. Guy is already in everyone's attic. He's too underrated. If someone knows why he can't be as good as any Korean toss player, let me know. I'm curious. All hail Chad bleeping Jones. MaNa played a bit of bw for ESC and Mouz. Also Socke, Fraer, White-Ra did and all of them are (or maybe were, in Ra´s case, idk much about his current shape) ahead of Minigun. You failed at pretending. Mana was one of the best BW toss players, if not the best. I wasn't aware that Socke played BW. German insight at its finest. I'm aware of Fraer from BW, and I was aware of his ELO in SC 2. I haven't seen many of his games, if any, in SC 2. There's always some exceptions, I guess. I was wanting to just say North America, but that's too easy: where's the fun without debate? I went with a tiny stretch. White-ra? He's a fan favorite for good reason, but there's no way you could get me to bet on white-ra over minigun today, let alone in the future. All things considered, I just don't see a more impressive player. With zerg seemingly being taken down a notch in HotS and minigun gaining even more RTS experience, you'd have to figure if anyone "breaks out" and starts winning a lot of stuff, it should be him. Hardly anyone really seems to be on his level, potential wise. If you're new to a fighting genre and you're already at someone's level in a short amount of time, it doesn't bode well for the other guy, unless it appears you have peaked. To me it just seems like he's more of a player that's still improving in comparison to others. I failed at english, I confused pretend with assume for some reason. Fraer may not be that often seen in premier events, but in the more prestigious online events like RSL or EGMC he is taking good wins relatively regularly, for example + Show Spoiler +eliminated aLive last week in RSL . White-Ra has significantly improved in HotS again, he barely lost against Hyun (4:5) a few days ago, I honestly would doubt Minigun would be able to keep it that close. Maybe I´m underestimating Minigun here, but I remember that he got pretty hyped before IEM Cologne as well and we know, what happened there. I don't really like making excuses for sucking, but this was also when my disease was horribly not in control and I 100% should not have been traveling. The entire way there/and at the hotel before I played I was throwing up I was in so much pain/at the event. It was also my first time ever playing on stage which is pretty nerve racking. This game is more than skill. It's about luck ( not saying I'm unlucky, just saying it's a part of winning/losing), ingame skill, and your ability to control your anxiety. I'm fucking horrible at #3. XD I hope I can at least take a few games off life though, we shall see. Thanks for all the support from everyone, even though I can't respond to you all I do read your comments and appreciate it.
I strongly suggest should read the book Mind Gym. The mentality you have is holding your back. First, you say you don't like making excuses, but then you go ahead and make excuses. Then you talk about how the game is has an element luck, and how your not good at controlling your anxiety. Then you say that you hope to take a few games off Life.
That isn't the mindset of a champion at all. People become champions in their mind before they do it in real life. You won't beat Life if you don't think you can. Simple as that. What kind of mindset do you think Life has? He probably thinks he is going to win it all, and that you're nothing. You need to think of him the same way. MC acted like a boss long before he won tournaments. Stephano said congrats to people when they beat him, because he believed people deserved congratulations for beating him (ie, he thought he was the best).
I'm not trying to be offensive, I am trying to help you. Idra is a great player (he did quite well at BWCS, where he defeated Roro and Stephano) and you play him very well. You can beat Life, but you have to convince yourself of that before you do it.
Good luck.
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On March 05 2013 09:17 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 09:03 ROOTMinigun wrote:On March 05 2013 08:10 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 03:41 playa wrote:On March 05 2013 03:14 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 02:50 playa wrote:
I don't get how minigun is so good. The breakfast of champions is w/ever CJ is eating. No RTS background and still way better than any former BW toss player (pretend Mana isn't playing)? It's been a while since you had to wonder where exactly a non Korean's ceiling is at. Guy is already in everyone's attic. He's too underrated. If someone knows why he can't be as good as any Korean toss player, let me know. I'm curious. All hail Chad bleeping Jones. MaNa played a bit of bw for ESC and Mouz. Also Socke, Fraer, White-Ra did and all of them are (or maybe were, in Ra´s case, idk much about his current shape) ahead of Minigun. You failed at pretending. Mana was one of the best BW toss players, if not the best. I wasn't aware that Socke played BW. German insight at its finest. I'm aware of Fraer from BW, and I was aware of his ELO in SC 2. I haven't seen many of his games, if any, in SC 2. There's always some exceptions, I guess. I was wanting to just say North America, but that's too easy: where's the fun without debate? I went with a tiny stretch. White-ra? He's a fan favorite for good reason, but there's no way you could get me to bet on white-ra over minigun today, let alone in the future. All things considered, I just don't see a more impressive player. With zerg seemingly being taken down a notch in HotS and minigun gaining even more RTS experience, you'd have to figure if anyone "breaks out" and starts winning a lot of stuff, it should be him. Hardly anyone really seems to be on his level, potential wise. If you're new to a fighting genre and you're already at someone's level in a short amount of time, it doesn't bode well for the other guy, unless it appears you have peaked. To me it just seems like he's more of a player that's still improving in comparison to others. I failed at english, I confused pretend with assume for some reason. Fraer may not be that often seen in premier events, but in the more prestigious online events like RSL or EGMC he is taking good wins relatively regularly, for example + Show Spoiler +eliminated aLive last week in RSL . White-Ra has significantly improved in HotS again, he barely lost against Hyun (4:5) a few days ago, I honestly would doubt Minigun would be able to keep it that close. Maybe I´m underestimating Minigun here, but I remember that he got pretty hyped before IEM Cologne as well and we know, what happened there. I don't really like making excuses for sucking, but this was also when my disease was horribly not in control and I 100% should not have been traveling. The entire way there/and at the hotel before I played I was throwing up I was in so much pain/at the event. It was also my first time ever playing on stage which is pretty nerve racking. This game is more than skill. It's about luck ( not saying I'm unlucky, just saying it's a part of winning/losing), ingame skill, and your ability to control your anxiety. I'm fucking horrible at #3. XD I hope I can at least take a few games off life though, we shall see. Thanks for all the support from everyone, even though I can't respond to you all I do read your comments and appreciate it. I strongly suggest should read the book Mind Gym. The mentality you have is holding your back. First, you say you don't like making excuses, but then you go ahead and make excuses. Then you talk about how the game is has an element luck, and how your not good at controlling your anxiety. Then you say that you hope to take a few games off Life. That isn't the mindset of a champion at all. People become champions in their mind before they do it in real life. You won't beat Life if you don't think you can. Simple as that. I'm not trying to be offensive, I am trying to help you. Idra is a great player (he did quite well at BWCS), and you play him very well. You can beat Life, but you have to convince yourself of that before you do it. Good luck.
I concur. Attitude determines altitude.
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On March 05 2013 08:52 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 08:10 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 03:41 playa wrote:On March 05 2013 03:14 Xoronius wrote:On March 05 2013 02:50 playa wrote:
I don't get how minigun is so good. The breakfast of champions is w/ever CJ is eating. No RTS background and still way better than any former BW toss player (pretend Mana isn't playing)? It's been a while since you had to wonder where exactly a non Korean's ceiling is at. Guy is already in everyone's attic. He's too underrated. If someone knows why he can't be as good as any Korean toss player, let me know. I'm curious. All hail Chad bleeping Jones. MaNa played a bit of bw for ESC and Mouz. Also Socke, Fraer, White-Ra did and all of them are (or maybe were, in Ra´s case, idk much about his current shape) ahead of Minigun. You failed at pretending. Mana was one of the best BW toss players, if not the best. I wasn't aware that Socke played BW. German insight at its finest. I'm aware of Fraer from BW, and I was aware of his ELO in SC 2. I haven't seen many of his games, if any, in SC 2. There's always some exceptions, I guess. I was wanting to just say North America, but that's too easy: where's the fun without debate? I went with a tiny stretch. White-ra? He's a fan favorite for good reason, but there's no way you could get me to bet on white-ra over minigun today, let alone in the future. All things considered, I just don't see a more impressive player. With zerg seemingly being taken down a notch in HotS and minigun gaining even more RTS experience, you'd have to figure if anyone "breaks out" and starts winning a lot of stuff, it should be him. Hardly anyone really seems to be on his level, potential wise. If you're new to a fighting genre and you're already at someone's level in a short amount of time, it doesn't bode well for the other guy, unless it appears you have peaked. To me it just seems like he's more of a player that's still improving in comparison to others. I failed at english, I confused pretend with assume for some reason. Fraer may not be that often seen in premier events, but in the more prestigious online events like RSL or EGMC he is taking good wins relatively regularly, for example + Show Spoiler +eliminated aLive last week in RSL . White-Ra has significantly improved in HotS again, he barely lost against Hyun (4:5) a few days ago, I honestly would doubt Minigun would be able to keep it that close. Maybe I´m underestimating Minigun here, but I remember that he got pretty hyped before IEM Cologne as well and we know, what happened there. Anyways, I guess I should be posting in a fanclub thread or something. Fans going to be fans.
It´s fine and good, that you post here, there would´nt be a point for a forum without discussion. I´d do the same, if someone else (a certain Panzerdriver for example) would be the object of arguing.
@Minigun: I did´nt know about your illness at IEM, that surely changes quite a bit. GL against Life.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
Minigun is one of the rare players that don't have issues with their game - it's just his mind, illness, anxiety, and whatnot...
As far as starcraft 2 goes, there is nothing i would rather see but Minigun performing on some LAN tourney with all that shit that's bugging him aside. I KNOW he would fucking destroy. Come on Mini, there are plenty of good vibes for you, you know that. Make us proud.
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On March 05 2013 09:03 totauksz wrote:
you're borderline ridiculous with all this lol
Minigun got raped by Scarlett 3-0 like a week ago, what about that?
gm players can take games off each other, that's nothing new. minigun beating idra isn't new wither.
She also has one of the best if not the best WOL pvz I've played against It's easily code s level
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On March 05 2013 09:40 ROOTMinigun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 09:03 totauksz wrote:
you're borderline ridiculous with all this lol
Minigun got raped by Scarlett 3-0 like a week ago, what about that?
gm players can take games off each other, that's nothing new. minigun beating idra isn't new wither. She also has one of the best if not the best WOL pvz I've played against It's easily code s level
not hating on you dude; actually I think you're awesome. been watching your stream to this very moment right till you stopped. also I know Scarlett is good.
but that guy i quoted started to sound extremely ridiculous
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On March 05 2013 09:59 totauksz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 09:40 ROOTMinigun wrote:On March 05 2013 09:03 totauksz wrote:
you're borderline ridiculous with all this lol
Minigun got raped by Scarlett 3-0 like a week ago, what about that?
gm players can take games off each other, that's nothing new. minigun beating idra isn't new wither. She also has one of the best if not the best WOL pvz I've played against It's easily code s level not hating on you dude; actually I think you're awesome. been watching your stream to this very moment right till you stopped. also I know Scarlett is good. but that guy i quoted started to sound extremely ridiculous
Oh I know I didn't take it as hate, I have no same in getting 3-0'd by scarlett, was just giving my opinion on her
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